Ecuador WCQ Matches vs Colombia and Bolivia

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by Luigi408, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. SankaCofie

    SankaCofie Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Skorgolia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm going to write Obama and ask him to impress upon Rueda how important it is we have a striker on the Ecuador team who can actually strike the ball.
     
  2. SankaCofie

    SankaCofie Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Skorgolia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
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    Also.... I found where I recognized Paredes from... he used to be on the Jamaican bobsled team.
     
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  3. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    That's bob marley brah.
     
  4. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    Don't know what you guys expected. Bolivia is hard to beat in La Paz. Just because we beat them before, it's not our right to beat them every time.

    The game could have gone either way, but I felt we had the clearest chances to score.

    This team is definitely in a crisis. All the Chucho haters - I hope this teaches you a lesson. His workrate and pressure on defenders was what we needed most today. Felipao had ZERO chances other than the penalty, because we have no offensive presence in the midfield to create space for him.

    And Rueda defenders - a coach is supposed to create a team that is greater than its parts. Rueda's offensive strategy is "get the ball to Valencia or Montero". Other than that I don't see any consistent approach to what he does. Last time he uses Enner alone up front, now he uses Yoya in a deep role. Guerron comes all the way from China to play 19 minutes because Felipao got hurt...it all seems kind of random to me.

    Well, as we all feared everything is going to come down to the match v. Uruguay, who are currently on fire after beating Venezuela and Peru at home. Anybody know any good hotels in Uzbekistan??

    BTW as I stated in an earlier post, with the point today, we are all but mathematically guaranteed no worse than 5th place unless Venezuela destroys their next 2 opponents. So congrats. Yay.
     
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  5. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This ******** up is all Rueda. Rueda's biggest mistake was going with a 4-4-2. A lot people here said he didn't have enough balls in Colombia. Well Rueda listened to these morons. Bolivia completely controlled the midfield in the first half with 70 percent possession. To get dominated like that from Bolivia is Embarrassing! The only club/teams in the world that do that is Spain or Barcelona. He should have started with a 4-5-1 or a 3-5-2. Why Rueda didn't call fidel Martinez is beyond me.
     
  6. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    If Mexico can fire their coach because they are about to be out of the WC so can Ecuador. We haven't won in 6 games! Not just that but today's goal is the first one since the tie in Argentina! (If I'm not wrong). We were ranked 10th in the world and we were in 2nd place.

    This has to be the most disappointing and disastrous drop in performance and in ranks I have seen. So close to make it to the WC and Ecuador is about to be out of it

    The performances hasn't improved either. Every game that goes on it seems that Ecuador is getting worse! From failed tactics or individual players that have sucked.

    It's time to fire Rueda now. His plan to take us to the WC has failed.

    The fat Chiriboga has also failed Ecuador. That dude needs to be kicked out of FEF. The people should go to FEF and drag his ass out of there.

    This administration is full of losers. The change needs to start from the top if Ecuador ever wants to be successful.
     
  7. LongLiveThe80's

    Manchester United
    Jun 8, 2006
    Palos Verdes, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This always seems to happen to us. I just can't explain it. How does a team that has everything to win go out and lay an egg against the worst team in South America? This is embarrassing! There was no sense of urgency. Our players got winded even though they play in Quito. Players like Paredes that always play like retards game in and game out are still on the national team. WTF??? Am I supposed to believe that this is the best the players and coaches could come up with?
     
  8. LongLiveThe80's

    Manchester United
    Jun 8, 2006
    Palos Verdes, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh and one more thing. I tired of colombian coaches! I'd rather lose with an Ecuadorian coach like Vizuete than have to endure this jerk coaching our beloved team. Aguinaga better be the next coach!
     
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  9. cabezamagica

    cabezamagica Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Dominguez es una mierda,por favor este wbon se hace goles el mismo.
     
  10. lav92

    lav92 Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Only reason why I have hope we qualify is because it wouldn't be our national team without making us suffer. It's just one of those things you learn to cope with in life. Kinda like some of the old posters on BS who probably look at hair loss the same way.

    But on a serious note Jordan isn't threat. I watched them play and sheesh...Uzbekistan was playing better and they were a complete joke. It looked like one of those El Salvador - Nicaragua type of games. If anything those 2 extra matches can help this team "gel."

    Really is no hope in being so pessimistic. Can we (fans and posters on BS and facebook) control the outcome of this? No! We have to support them. It's good to criticize but some of you guys just straight hate on the NT. Please go ahead and tryout for the team. Macara is lacking a good striker last time I checked. Please go ahead and join, Macara needs you now!!
     
  11. Lucho Gutierrez

    May 29, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I have to come in and chime with everyone on this forum, ECUADOR IS ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE.WE should never be optimistic with this national team, they all have a mediocre mentality and are just GOD awful. How did we go from 2nd place to almost 5 or 6th? I'm sick and tired of this soccer team, if we lose against Uruguay we're toast and against CHile that's certain. If we make it in 5th don't be surprised if Jordan destroys us on both legs of the playoff and eliminates us.. So ddepressed right now, I think I'm going to abstain from watching and Ecuador football game ever again until these guys start playing like they used to. This is ridiculous that teams that started worse than us are going to leap frog us on the table.
     
  12. lav92

    lav92 Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Ohh and Guerron had my support but that performance was horrible. Same old Guerron. At least we know we gave him a shot. Next up, Fidel Martinez. I also wonder how serious the Caicedo injury is.
     
  13. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I bet you said that Bolivia wasn't a threat....and we almost lost.
     
  14. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Here's my question....we played with Ayovi and Caicedo, but we didn't play with anybody behind them that can TRULY control the pace and distribution of the ball- EDISON MENDEZ, WHERE WERE YOU?!?!?! You don't play with 2 hombres de area and nobody there to filter clean passes and hold the ball to get better positions out of our guys. This always happens when we focus on the speed and skill of the wingers....they're effective to an extent, but can obviously not carry the entire team for an entire game (maybe for specific time segments, but not all) and certainly the defense was suspect AGAIN. Rueda's tactically mistaken. Even if we had Saritama, who in theory was supposed to be the fill-in, the guy still has a defensive mindset and doesn't pass or control the pace of the game as well as Edison does. Fidel Martinez to the rescue? I hope so. This is starting to remind me of when Suarez never called up Jose Valencia who was in his prime playing in Holland for a decent club, as a left footed defender/midfielder. INSANE.

    I hope we make it. We need to count the numbers now, and just win out...no queda otra. Hopefully Colombia beats Uruguay tonight.
     
  15. Lucho Gutierrez

    May 29, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Oh I forget to mention RUEDA GTFO! YOU'RE THE REASON COLOMBIA,YOUR OWN NATIONAL TEAM FAILED TO QUALIFY IN 2006! YOU'RE A ********ING EMBARRASMENT. I hate how this piece of shit Rueda always makes it seem like he has all the tactics ready and set up for the opposing team, and like everything's going to work 100% for us, then he ends up getting us railed losing games back to back. ******** off Rueda its your time to leave just like it was Borghi's time to leave CHile when he made their team go 6games without a win. Hopefully we can get a coach as great as Sampaoli, congrats Chile how I envy the recovery these guys h ave made. Our guys on the other hand always like to go from good to bad
     
  16. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    And Ayovi was crap for the first half and then some and nobody is criticizing him. 19 minutes is not enough, when was the last time he played in the altitude? 5 years ago?
     
  17. lav92

    lav92 Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Wait you are contradicting yourself...so you wanted Guerron to play a whole game after not playing en la altura for 5 years? So 19 minutes wasn't the reason why he showed the same frustrating plays from last time? or was it the altura? which one? Please elaborate.
     
  18. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    What I'm trying to say is that we should not write a player off just because of 19 minutes of play and whom hasn't been on the team for 2 years or play in the altitude for 5.
     
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  19. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    mang, that game against Uruguay is going to be really tough.
     
  20. mac-0n3

    mac-0n3 Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    Toronto,Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Sigh ....
    Paredes : he did ok , saved our asses 2times by putting his body infront of the bolivian in the box. Pushes up well but his final ball is ass 6/10
    GuaGua : ........ 2 decent apperances? wtf . lol 7.5/10
    Erazo : He was winning headers , passing the ball off , and moving up the feild like a beast . 8.5/10
    Ayovi : didnt do anything going forward did mess up defensively 6/10

    Valencia : my god ..... he has truly turned to shit. There were so many chances where he could have passed the ball to an open man, but he decided no... im going to stand here for 20seconds and wait till all my clear passing outlets get marked, and then im going to try and DRIBBLE to make better space. Hes turned into an awful player. 3/10

    Saritama:made no impact and was a waste of space. Couldnt even send clean passes out and couldnt control anything on his feet. 4/10

    Castillo: i dont even know what to say. 5.5/10

    Montero: We have El Neymar Ecuatoriano , well i introduce you to El Nani Ecuatoriano. Frustrating with his decision making , but one spark of brilliance and some luck got us the penal . 6.5/10

    Yoya: Enner Valencia is better than you . Yoya you suck , you cant control the ball , you cant pass, you cant run, you cant jump, you cant position youself where it would benefit our team, you can how ever make yourself invisible which is a cool super power , not for la cancha tho. Oh and somehow in a 4-4-2!! you left Felipao alone every second that you were on the pitch . 1/10 ( the one is for just showing up)

    Felipao: Was not offered any help , he had to come down passed the midfeild to get the ball because there wasnt anybody to get him the ball. Clean Penalty take THANK YOU. Turning into Carlos Tenorio with all these injury's . 7/10

    Guerron: Enner Valencia Is Better then You. You dive for no reason, you cant beat a tired Bolivian defender one on one. You're Lazy , and a bad actor, an awful teammate and you should have stayed in china eating wonton soup. You've been a waste of talent and i will never miss seeing your face on the NT. 2/10( one point for showing up and another for being better then Yoya wooppiieee )

    Noboa: ...................... almost scored at the end. Not much he could have done around a bunch of incompetent players.

    Ibarra: didnt make a big impact , didnt do much wrong tho. 5/10

    Dida : WTF man. 4/10
     
  21. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Was it Montero who didn't pass the ball when there were 4 of our guys in the area? that shit pissed me off.
     
  22. viagoal

    viagoal Member

    Jan 5, 2005
    We will have home field advantage next game in Quito. And we will have our full squad since nobody got any yellows vs Bolivia. These past two games had adverse factors for us in Baranquilla and La Paz. We will be back in 4th place with a win in Quito.
     
  23. mac-0n3

    mac-0n3 Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    Toronto,Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Fire Rueda and get a new coach in here for Uruguay. Whats the saying... Tecnico Nuevo Nunca Pierde ?...
     
  24. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Everyone wanted Markarian and Bauza at the beginning. lol
     
  25. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Rueda made a lot of mistakes in this game.
    1) Starting Yoya, this guy has played 3 games in the last 8 months.
    2) Waited for the goal to bring on the subs, seriously Rueda get some balls, the ties was almostas bad as the loss tbh, both results put us in the position to NEED a win against Uruguay.
    3) Saritama played alright imo but Noboa needed to start this game.
    4)Joffre Guerron as lone striker??? theres a reason why Bauza changed him to winger. Mina was the proper sub
    5) Instructed players to not shoot from the outside, Walter Ayovi, Valencia, Castillo and Noboa are all decent shooters, the space was there.
    6) we must have more methods of attacking besides giving the ball to Montero or Valencia
    7) 3 years after started working with us, Rueda still has yet to learn to take advantage of corner kicks.

    Now, players did plenty of mistakes on their own,
    1) Dominguez, ball went in between his arms, worst keeping we've had in years.
    2)Montero needs to stop being selfish, plenty of times he had the chance to pass, hes never been a great finisher.
    3) Felipe Caicedo is out of shape.
    4) PLAYERS!!! SHOOT THE BALL!!!
     

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