Review: USA - Bosnia & Herzegovina - Player Ratings

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Mario Balotelli, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    No
    No. They were referring to his attemptted layoff in the 1st half
     
  2. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you refresh me on the Don Quixote analogy? I've become even more confused now since we are not following the same narrative arc you assumed months ago.
     
  3. PStevenson1082

    May 28, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Ok.. I was napping then... Didn't see the first half.
     
  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It was kind of weird.
    He did everything right. He had a nice move to fake out his defender and instead of shooting like most strikers would in that situation he tried to pass it off.
    A real head scratcher for sure.
     
  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Can anyone name another match or even 3 of which Jozy had a better game than today's?
     
  6. LuckofLichaj

    LuckofLichaj Member+

    Mar 9, 2012
    Note: I rate from .5-9

    GK Howard: 7.5 - A few big-time saves and not liable for any of the goals
    LB F. Johnson: 6.5 - Nothing glaring defensively as the LB, and while he gave the ball away a few times at LM he certainly made up for it with his sublime run and assist on the game-tying goal
    CB Brooks: 5 - Certainly has the tools, but he was shaky more than once.
    CB Cameron: 4 - I really hope this is the end of the Geoff at CB fiasco. He was flat-out beaten to the front post on Bosnia's second
    RB Evans: 5.5 - A gifted player would've accomplished more down his flank, but there is no denying that he is a relatively accountable defender who is good in the air for a RB.
    CM Bradley: 8.5 - It doesn't get much better than that.
    CM Jones: 4 - That was poor. He didn't seem interested in running tonight, which makes him almost useless
    LM E. Johnson: 5 - Had a horrible giveaway in his own half and he struggled making the right play. Yet he's able to put defenses in compromising positions with his creativity and athleticism. The odd duck isn't ALWAYS the bad duck.
    RM Bedoya: 5.5 - Lots of work but not much fuss. But I actually think he's shown enough to open a competition with Graham Zusi for the RM pecking order.
    CAM Diskerud: 5 - Deployed out of position and it looked like it. Mix has great vision, but he doesn't have the technicality to consistently manage the tight spaces a "10" needs to. He just got dispossessed far too often despite a few brilliant plays.
    ST Altidore: 9 - Best night in the shirt. He did it all. He established possession in the attacking third and had two absolutely world-class finishes. Tonight's performance could force Jurgen's hand into playing with two forwards.

    LB Castillo: 7.5 - Lost his mark after a broken set piece, but other than that he was brilliant. He consistently attacked the Bosnians, earning the free kick for Jozy's second golazo.
    ST Johansson: 7.5 - Tricky, hard-working and dangerous. Could be the end of Herc with the full nats.
    CM Kljestan: 7 - Had the most integral hand in the US's beautiful fourth goal and otherwise played cleanly.
    RM Corona: 5.5 - Fairly anonymous
    DF Parkhurst: 6 - Spirited
     
  7. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #32 Berks, Aug 15, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2013
    Jozy (10) - fantastic game. A complete game. I thought about a 9.5, but honestly, don't know what else the guy could have done. 1 assist, 3 goals, involved in every goal and several free kicks. Tracked back as well.
    Diskerud (5.5) - earned a PK, but overall looked overwhelmed, got muscled and stripped off the ball, and not sure CAM is the right role for him. Liked him better playing under LD.
    EJ (6) - responsible for the first goal, and frankly, even though he got a goal (that Jozy basically earned), was poor. Bad touches and bad decisions, and didn't help Fabian out defensively at times. Without the goal would have been a 5.
    Bedoya (6.5) - challenged a few times, then faded in the 2nd half.
    Bradley (8) - Involved in attacking plays, calm on the ball, tracked back, aka, the usual.
    Jones (4) - Turnover machine. Not a surprise we looked better when he was gone.
    FJ (6.5) - Not much to say to be honest. Got burned a few times at LB and was culpable on one of the goals.
    Brooks (6.5) - Has promise. Pulled an Omar at the end of the game. Therefore, has not wrested control of the backline spot, but still...promising. Liked his manhandling of Dzeko - didn't look intimidated or panicked.
    Cameron (6.5) - made some mistakes like Brooks. But still not bad for someone who doesn't play CB at his club.
    Evans (7) - much to my surprise.
    Howard (7) - couple of great saves, nothing he could do on the goals
    Castillo (7) - Again much to my surprise.
    Johansson (7) - hello spark plug!
    Parkhurst/Kljestan/Corona - too little time...though Sacha looked decent.

    I don't understand the folks that are giving Jozy a 9-9.5. What else could the kid have done?
     
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  8. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Using the Sky Sports Scale:
    10: Out of this world - very rare, exceptional performances only.
    9: Excellent - Top-class display, probably the matchwinner.
    8: Very Good - Outstanding, very influential.
    7: Good - Impressive, eye-catching.
    6: Average - No major faults, nothing overly impressive.
    5: Below Average - Some faults, out-of-touch.
    4: Poor - Many faults, easy to criticise.

    Altidore: 10
    E Johnson: 5
    Bedoya: 6
    Diskerud: 6
    Jones: 5
    Bradley: 9
    Johnson: 6
    Brooks: 5
    Cameron: 6
    Evans: 6
    Howard: 6
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    Castillo: 7
    Johannson: 7
    Corona: 6
    Kljestan: 7
    Wood: NR
     
  9. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't think Geoff played as poorly as people have listed...huh. Was definitely not "good," but didn't think he was terrible. Off to read more about that.

    Definitely thought the worst player was Jones - seems to be consistency there.
     
  10. Kaptain_Amerika

    Jun 19, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Before I clicked on this thread, I said to myself if this kid grades Brooks as the best defender of the game for the USA, I will stop reading from that point on............
     
  11. PStevenson1082

    May 28, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    lol.... I will say that he was graded a point too high. He had an ok game for his first match and he outplayed Cameron who may not play CB often but should have more experience and knowledge not to commit the mistakes he did to allow those goals. Jack of trades, master of none. Evans was the best overall but needs to work on the offense aspect. Castillo is good coming forward but needs work defending.
     
  12. Kaptain_Amerika

    Jun 19, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had an okay-below par game, imo. My point being, many on this board are overvaluing Brooks and Aron, to the point where they're including them in their starting lineups for Brazil. If Gonzo would have played the exact same game and made the exact same mistakes many on this board would have criticized him to death for ball watching on that third goal and miscommunicating with Cameron on the first. If you're going to analyze a player do it without bias not with "Eurosnob glasses" on. ;)
     
  13. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    There's a big difference between what the appropriate grade for Brooks should be from an analyst's point of view, and what it should be from a coach's standpoint. If you're an analyst, you say that he made a number of mistakes that cost his team. If you're a coach, you say that you've got a kid with a certain amount of composure who can defend 1v1, pass his way out of trouble, contribute to the attack with his passing, and he's getting his chances in the Bundesliga at 21. What is there not to be practically overjoyed about?

    Those who expect a mistake-free player at age 21 with only a year of experience in the 2. Bundesliga I'd say are totally unrealistic. But another year of experience in the Bundesliga will polish him quite a lot if he stays healthy and gets consistent time through the season.
     
  14. PStevenson1082

    May 28, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona

    I'm not a Eurosnob but I will say this... With Johannsson, if JK can figure out a way to get him onto the field with Donovan, Altidore and Deuce.... He will produce.... There was a reason why Iceland fell out over AJ's switch... He is more technically gifted than any player that we've produced minus...... a latino one that I can't think of the name right now. EJ only has the benefit of helping the squad qualify. EJ isn't better than him.. He could have been but he didn't have the desire to be great.

    As for Gonzo and Brooks.... I rate them the same and both have the potential to grow. There are two things that separate them... Gonzo is older and been apart of the Nats longer and still in MLS where he has peaked and would do well to challenge himself in Europe so he can keep his spot. Brooks plays in the Bundesliga and is young. Ultimately, it's JK's decision to make but I going to assume if JAB keeps his starting position for the entire season, he will be better than Gonzo. Gonzo is signing that MLS contract for DP money instead of trying to keep his starting XI position on the national team.

    Gonzo should be better but he isn't.
     
  15. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are you, a mind-reader?
     
  16. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the record, this is GAM's second goal against non-CONCACAF opposition. He scored a PK against Argentina in the '07 Copa America.
     
  17. PStevenson1082

    May 28, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    :sneaky: :D ;)
     
  18. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brooks was our best CB hands down yesterday. he was not at fault for the first or second goal. on the third he needs to be stronger but he will learn. his positioning at times was outstanding.

    cameron was garbage in the first half. poor positioning and kept players onsides too often.
     
  19. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    Brooks was at fault for the first goal by lollygagging (along with Cameron) back to cover Howard's line.
     
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  20. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    meh. some truth to it. but cameron should have been zooming back too. brooks was sliding back in the goal and moved quicker than geoff did.

    either way eddie johnson is the biggest at fault.
     
  21. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Totally agree.
    And Bosnia is exactly the type of team that we're gonna see in the World Cup. Not good enough.
    Mix got tossed around like a ragdoll. Jones, I don't even know what the guy was trying to do out there and his body language confirmed just how horrible of a time that he had.
     
  22. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For anyone still confused, the play we're talking about starts at 1:25 or so here:

     
  24. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    In response to an interviewer's question in 2008 about which video games he liked to play, Johnson reportedly said: "I don't play video games. I'm a grown-ass man."
     
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  25. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Precisely. I think his distribution and passes into the midfield are being overlooked here too.
     

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