Pre/PBP/Post: CCL Quarterfinals, Santos Laguna v Houston Dynamo, Wednesday, March 13

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by newtex, Mar 6, 2013.

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Result?

Poll closed Mar 12, 2013.
  1. Dynamo advance

    17 vote(s)
    77.3%
  2. Dynamo fail to advance

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  3. Tim Hanley? Coach of the Year!

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. Penwyth

    Penwyth Member

    Mar 10, 1999
    Earth
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congrats to Santos. Begrudgingly. They were the better team on the night. The H. Gomez goal was a colassal laspe though and WTF with Dom on the sidelines like he had some sort of hangout with peyote earlier in the day. I needed him excoriating his players from the sidelines, not hanging out in that sideline Lazy-Boy biding his time.
     
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  2. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Be careful what you ask for.
     
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  3. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dynamo had no clue how to move on a big expansive field against a sophisticated opponent that knows that the game is about space, not about the ball and physical battles.

    Congrats to Santos. We could pick at the mistakes made and the chances not taken, but frankly I thought Santos could produce as many chances as necessary to win that game. I never got the impression they were working all that hard. That was a thorough ass-kicking.

    I really disagree with comments about the Dynamo not caring. I didn't see anything that made me think they didn't care.

    Finally. Everyone say after me: Its just one game. Your never as bad as you think you are when you lose. Your never as good as you think you are when you win.
     
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  4. Levy2k6

    Levy2k6 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 19, 2010
    Section 129, Row A
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. ra azua

    ra azua Member

    May 10, 2009
    houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    we didnt kick ass:( tis was more like an ass kick!

    but its ok. we can now concentrate on our title run in fugly jerseys:(.
     
  6. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See, I didn't see us get our ass kicked. At least not by Santos. I did see the Dynamo kick the hell out of the Dynamo, and Santos took advantage of that. Take out those 3 goals and what did Santos have? Not much. All 3 of those goals came on defensive lapses and mistakes.

    Warren....I give him a bit of a bye since he is a kid and learning. But man, I really hope Dom or Bobby or one of the other vets warned him about putting your arm on someone like that while on the road in C'CAF (of course we didn't get the same call but...c'est la vie)

    Bobby....he doesn't get a pass. He is a veteran defender and should know that if you have an attacker on your shoulder like that, take the initiative, regardless of what your keeper says, and boot that ball out of bounds.

    Moffat/Driver....they were both on the back post on the initial kick and got caught ball watching, allowing a Santos player to sneak behind them unmarked on the far post for the 2nd chance. Failure of basic soccer rules. Never ball watch, and beware 2nd chances from set pieces.

    Credit to Santos for seeing those mistakes and taking advantage. Not all teams will do that. They had a great gameplan to shut us down and they followed it defensively really well until the last 10 minutes or so.

    Moffat, I think, had a nightmare of a game. I'm sure he'll want to forget that one.
     
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  7. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this were wrestling, the Dynamo would be job it is to go out and lose to the up and coming guy. Jose de Jesus Ortiz is the heel.

    I'd say the body language of Dom and the players said a little something about their desire to win this match.

    I saw nothing from Santos in either leg that would make me label them as great. It was stupid errors that cost Houston.

    That Cory Ashe guy. He makes a difference huh?
     
  8. brahmafutbol

    brahmafutbol Member+

    Jan 29, 2006
    East Bernard, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yea, I think not having Corey made a big difference. Other than that, what can I say? I wanted a better performance, a better result, and it wasn't there. Everybody is taking a different thing from the game, my friends here were saying we weren't on the same level as Santos, Hérculez before the game said we weren't used to playing in those situations, others have said we didn't care, and DonJ said Santos was a much better team. I disagree with all of that. I think we had a bad night and combined with some bad luck we lost. That's that.

    By the way, there was the tweet from the Dynamo at the airport this morning that mentioned stolen uniforms. Will that explain why we wore our regular jerseys? I was all ready in my 3rd one and quickly had to change. And not wearing the 3rd I think is another reason for the loss....
     
  9. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    warren, boz and bruin were all terrible. incredibly terrible. garcia looked pretty rough as well. defensive mistakes were mind numbing. but they were mistakes. one goal in two games is not a mistake. its a pattern. one that goes back to last year. can't wait to get a forward that has touch and speed on the field to make up for bruins "needs"

    we had better destroy frisco by 10 on sunday
     
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  10. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I'm just pissed that I blew a bunch of money last night taking the family out to watch the game, and eat dinner. Serious buyers regret after that uninspired performance, and gaff-laden match. MLS has a long ways to go before it can enjoy the rosters that Liga MX can employ.

    My only consolation is that Tijuana took a similar beating at the hands of the Corinthians 3-0.

    I'm also not feeling all the brotherly love with other MLS teams. They are just as much, or more of our competitors then the Liga MX sides.
     
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  11. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    ^^^ read this a couple of times peeps. its the truth. we're a small-field team and that's why it was vital to win by a minimum of 2-0 in the first leg.

    i blame the influence of their Portuguese manager. they kind of lull you into thinking they're not playing when they're actually running you around.

    for the peeps who think Dom and the players do not care: i've been in the locker room after mid-season random Wednesday league games and they do care. if they win, there's music and horsing-around when they lose its as quiet as a library. this "they don't care" stuff is just not true.
     
  12. el nordissimo

    el nordissimo Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    "018"
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll have to take a contrarian view on Kidnplay Creavalle. Before the penalty, I thought he was our MoM, hustling his ass off, covering for guys, and making some pretty clever plays to win balls. I think Peralta suckered him into the penalty b/c he knew WC was showing to be one of our most effective players. Even after the penalty, there was a sequence when he came forward out of the back and tore through a number of Santos players trying to make something happen. I think the announcers called him Sarkodie on that one, and remarked that he was on a little misadventure out of the back.

    But overall that game sucked. We were outclassed so many times. So many passes read and intercepted, so many blocked, and a general inability to be as cool on the ball as Santos. DonJuego nailed it - we were killed by the big pitch and an inability to play a game of space rather than a bust-em-up MLS game. Even Boniek showed he's not LigaMX caliber.

    On to Frisco.
     
  13. *rey*

    *rey* Member+

    Feb 22, 2006
    Houston
    btw, i still contend that Santos is a fast team. you can't tell as much because they have lots of east/west movement, as opposed to a direct style like in the Premiership or MLS where the majority of the movement is north/south, but when they did they went past a couple of our guys.
     
  14. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boswell and Ching don't count! :)

    Anyway, I think it's easier to believe that your team didn't care more than they played like crap or were outclassed. I still don't think the Dynamo are 3 goals worse than Santos.
     
  15. Dynamo_Forever

    Dynamo_Forever Member+

    Aug 9, 2007
    Clear Lake, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm having a hard time with the Santos out-classed us Cr@p! Seriously, they were given a weak PK that I credit to CONCACAF officials. Bos gifted Santos a goal, there is no other way around it. Even if Hall called him off the ball Bos should have never let up like that 20 yards from goal. Hall was ambitious to think he could get to that ball. Gomez buried it which also took some skill (not sure Bruin would have done the same). The 3rd goal was a thing of beauty. It was a textbook finish that required alot of skill.

    The way we played last night, Santos could have been any MLS team and the results would have been the same.
     
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  16. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't buy into all of this "Santos was just going to score as much as they needed" crap and that they were that superior to the Dynamo. There was about 45 minutes of the game where one lucky goal would put the Dynamo ahead on away goals. If they were so great, they'd have finishes is off earlier.

    When you look at both legs what stands out is Dynamo mistakes - in both legs. I saw no juggernaut that blew us off the field and I saw a team that defended with a lack of pressure that should have allowed the Dynamo to score more than one goal.
     
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  17. AcetheTigah

    AcetheTigah Member+

    Apr 6, 2005
    Woodlands, TX
    I only got to watch the first half highlights (lowlights) and the entire second half.

    Too many mistakes to have a chance
    Poor performances - Boswell, Hall, Moffat, and especially Bruin.
    Having observed this I can not understand the substitutions and timing of substitutions based on the progression of the second half.
    More respect should have been given to Santos' speed on the field.
    Bruin hasn't been seen since the home playoff win against DC United. Would have subbed him out first instead of sending out two of your best athletes in Barnes and Creavelle. Puzzling.
    Ching looked good and JJ looked liked he has the athleticism to compete.
    Rico is not an attacking midfielder by nature. It isn't coming naturally for him.

    Disappointed because Santos could have been beaten by our team had they stepped up and had the right personel strings been pulled.
    Credit Santos for a good game plan of shutting outside mids down and trapping the defense in possession.
     
  18. Htownkraut

    Htownkraut Member

    Jan 12, 2011
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Sooooo........Fire Dom?
     
  19. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    HoustAtlantaDMV
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So does the BBVA pitch size hurt us in international competition perhaps?
     
  20. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely! I don't understand why Dom insist in having it smaller. I understand he has a plan, but wouldn't learning how to play in a bigger field be much worst on the opponents due to the heat in the middle of summer. If it is bigger, they will have to run more therefore grilling them alot faster. Come on , we can't take our dimension across our country and internationally, so just change it already!
     
  21. CLakeCracker

    CLakeCracker Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Downtown
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nailed it!
     
  22. ChrizG13

    ChrizG13 Member+

    Mar 1, 2010
    Humble
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup. Anybody know why he didn't play?
     
  23. Centuria20

    Centuria20 Member

    Jan 24, 2013
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    He was sick. Tummy ache perhaps?
     
  24. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Hopefully they got some of those clembutyrol tainted beef tacos to help out with the late game heroics.
     
  25. Grimmjow316

    Grimmjow316 Member+

    Jun 20, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    I didn't know about some uni's being stolen I did find it weird that they were wearing the first kits. Surprised Westside has not made a joke on this. Anyways I've noticed Boniek got handled in both games not only that this goes back to the Cup game as well they have found ways to neutralize him and we need to find other outlets.

    On my quitting comment guess I just watched the tv too hard due to the shots of Dom just sitting and not being his usual yelling self. Then I remembered the last time and went oh yeah... The crappy thing about this game we should have gotten a PK call late yet they called a foul on Clark I believe which was nothing now that really bothered me. Finally f LA and Seattle I hope to see them get owned especially LA with that "dynamic" bs they act like they have.
     

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