Seleção Sub-teams thread [R]

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  1. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I thought I'd make a new thread, since the last one was for the 2011 U-20 WC Cycle under Ney Franco.. new era, new thread.

    Brazil's preliminary squad for the South American U20 Championship, which will take place in Argentina in January:

    Goleiros:
    Matheus - Corinthians
    Jordi - Vasco da Gama
    Luis Gustavo - Vitória

    Zagueiros:
    Samir - Flamengo
    Marquinhos - Roma
    Doria - Botafogo
    Luan - Vasco da Gama

    Laterais:
    Douglas - Nautico
    Mansur - Vitoria
    Wallace - Fluminense
    Fabinho - Real Madrid

    Meias:
    Jadson - Botafogo
    Misael - Grêmio
    Talisca - Bahia
    Gabriel - Vitória
    Filipe - Rio Ave
    Felipe Anderson - Santos
    Rafael Alcântara - Barcelona
    Mattheus - Flamengo
    Guilherme Biteco - Grêmio
    Fred - Internacional

    Atacantes:
    Marcos Junior - Fluminense
    Bruno Mendes - Botafogo
    Ademilson - São Paulo
    Adryan - Flamengo
    Leandro - Grêmio
    Willie - Vitória
     
  2. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Roma doesn't want to lose Marquinho for 5 matches, so he won't play the South American u20 tournament

    Antonio Carlos (Corinthians) was called in his place
     
  3. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    hated when clubs deny player permission to represent their countries.... being selected to play for country is the biggest honor a player can get...

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  4. PapaDoc23

    PapaDoc23 Member

    Apr 9, 2012
    Brooklyn,New York
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    It is still a solid team. Adryan and Ademilson are going to be great players. They played well in the U-17 tournament. This is a deep squad.I like it alot. A mix of European based players and south american based players I wonder how that will work? But it makes me very excited. :) We can win with this deep team.
     
  5. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Will Globo Internatinal or Pfc show the tournament?
     
  6. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I know ESPN aired it last cycle, wouldn't be surprised if Bein picked up the rights to it in the States, idk about abroad.
     
  7. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Stacked team offensively. Ademilson, Bruno mendes, hopefully Adryan plays to his potential, Rafael alcantara, Fred, mattheus. I excited to see watch these games.
     
  8. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    What mix? is basically a team of brasil clubs, only three european players listed and alcantara needs to accept the invitation and already was said that marquinos wont play. So that's one european based player.


    Also anybody knows why lucas piazon wasnt invited.

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  9. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    two.. Fabinho and Filipe...

    Piazon probably couldn't come for w.e reason.
     
  10. PapaDoc23

    PapaDoc23 Member

    Apr 9, 2012
    Brooklyn,New York
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
  11. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Anyone have an opinion on Emerson Avila? I briefly remember him managing Cruizeiro
     
  12. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    In portuguese :)
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    Desconvocados neste domingo
    Jordi - Vasco da Gama (Goleiro)
    Filipe - Rio Ave
    Gabriel - Vitória
    Guilherme Biteco - Grêmio

    -
    LISTA FINAL
    Goleiros:
    Matheus - Corinthians
    Luis Gustavo - Vitória

    Zagueiros:
    Samir - Flamengo
    Antonio Carlos - Corinthians
    Doria - Botafogo
    Luan - Vasco da Gama

    Laterais:
    Douglas - Nautico
    Mansur - Vitoria
    Wallace - Fluminense
    Igor Juliao - Real Madrid

    Meias:
    Jadson - Botafogo
    Misael - Grêmio
    Talisca - Bahia
    Felipe Anderson - Santos
    Rafael Alcântara - Barcelona
    Lucas Candido - Atlético-MG
    Mattheus - Flamengo
    Fred - Internacional

    Atacantes:
    Marcos Junior - Fluminense
    Bruno Mendes - Botafogo
    Ademilson - São Paulo
    Adryan - Flamengo
    Leandro - Grêmio

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    MINHA OPINIAO
    Goleiros: Conheço apenas o Matheus, é um excelente goleiro. Luis Gustavo não conheço, mas vejo muitas pessoas falando bem dele. Acredito que Matheus será o goleiro titular.

    Zagueiros: Dória fez excelentes partidas pelo Botafogo no Campeonato Brasileiro 2012 e irá se transferir para a Juventus. Não acho Luan um jogador muito bom (razoável). Não conheço o futebol de Antonio Carlos e Samir.

    Laterais: Não gosto muito desse setor. Eu destaco Wallace, é bom jogador. Douglas Santos eu já vi jogar e não achei que ele fosse grandes coisas.

    Meias: Há ótimos jogadores. Jadson surgiu bem no Botafogo. Fred joga muita bola, tem talento demais. Filipe Anderson jogou em muitas partidas do Santos em 2012. Rafael Alcântara joga muito bem pelo o que eu já vi. Mattheus não fez muita coisa de bom em 2012 no time profissional do Flamengo.

    Atacantes: Estamos bem servidos nessa posição. Marcos Junior jogou bem em muitas partidas do Flu em 2012. Adryan era um jogador fantástico na base, mas não mostrou todo o seu potencial na equipe principal do Flamengo. Porém, ele é um dos melhores jogadores do elenco. Bruno Mendes surgiu na reta final do Brasileiro 2012 e jogou bem demais, jogador rápido e sabe marcar gols, fará parte dos 11. Leandro foi titular em muitos jogos do Grêmio, assim como Ademílson no São Paulo.

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    Times utilizados em amistosos:

    6x2 vs Macaé
    GOLS: Felipe Anderson, Matheus, Bruno Mendes, Douglas, Adryan e Leandro.
    1º T Matheus Caldeira, Jadson, Luan, Doria e Mansur; Misael, Felipe Anderson e Mattheus; Fred, Marcos Junior e Ademilson.
    2º T Luis Gustavo, Igor Julião, Antonio Carlos, Samir e Douglas; Lucas Candido (Gabriel) e Felipe; Adryan, Leandro e Biteco; Bruno Mendes

    4x1 vs Nova Iguaçu
    GOLS: Bruno Mendes (2), Dória, Mattheus (penalti)
    Luiz Gustavo (Vitória); Filipe (Rio Ave), Dória (Botafogo), Luan (Vasco) e Mansur (Vitória); Misael (Grêmio), Felipe Anderson (Santos) e Mattheus (Flamengo); Adryan (Flamengo), Marcos Júnior (Fluminense) e Ademílson (São Paulo)
    BRUNO MENDES FEZ PARTE DO TIME QUE ENTROU NO SEGUNDO TEMPO.

    2x1 vs Volta Redonda
     
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  13. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Followed shortly, but I see good reviews from fans of the Cruzeiro..
     
  14. Rivelino87

    Rivelino87 Member

    Aug 10, 2008
    Boston, Ma
    Club:
    Atletico Belo Horizonte
    Good coach at working with and developing youth. Luckily he was selected by Ney Franco when he was still at the CBF, before Marin pulled out his political maneuver against Andrés. Emerson and Ney worked at the rival and both share the same approach to the game. He favors attacking, possession-based football, playing from the back.

    I like those call-ups a lot, but wanted to add that Adryan is a meia, and he needs to be played like one. There are a few guys I don't know like all the laterais and the meias Jadson, Misael and Talisca, anyone got anything on them? Let's hope EA continues on with the focus of developing the players and isn't excessively pressured to deliver results over good football by that dinosaur Marin. The call-up looks promising.
     
  15. 0-Point

    0-Point Member

    Jun 5, 2004
    Quantum flux
    In that case I will tape the eye lids open for the early morn games - with a bit of luck maybe Brazil and Argentina will make the final and we're all treated some Sambango.
     
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  16. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    GROUP A:
    Argentina
    Bolivia
    Chile
    Colombia
    Paraguai

    GROUP B:
    Brasil
    Equador
    Peru
    Uruguai
    Venezuela


    Brasil games:
    10/01 - vs Equador - San Juan
    12/01 - vs Uruguai - Bilino Polje
    16/01 - vs Venezuela - San Juan
    18/01 - vs Peru - San Juan


    Do not know who will broadcast the competition for Brazil.

    In 2011, ESPN had the rights.
     
  17. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Hey guys, can you tell me who are your 4-5 star players?
     
  18. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It will be on Bein sports in the Usa hopefully Globo usa or Pfc show the brazil matches
     
  19. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Globo and PFC (Brasileirão only, I think) never transmitted. Do not know if it will pass now.

    It's hard to say. Most are at the same stage of their careers.

    For me, Doria, Fred, Rafael Alcantara, Adryan, Bruno Mendes are the stars.
     
  20. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Wallace e Ademilson are at the same level as Adryan.. tbh this team is more balanced than others, not real "stars" that will make you say WOW compared to 2011 where you had Neymar, Coutinho, Oscar and Lucas, and in 09 there was Ganso, Giuliano, Walter, and Douglas Costa.. this year you have Rafinha and Adryan, but the "star" factor won't really be there.. best players might be in defense this time around.
     
  21. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    These names are based on the famous ''hype'' and also by what they did in their times.

    Adryan destroying when younger and has played well in the first team Flamengo. I believe it is better than Ademilson in this moment. Wallace barely played in the first team of Fluminense.

    So I placed in the top five. The rest played very well in the Campeonato Brasileiro (Doria, Fred, Bruno Mendes) and Rafael Alcantara is in Barcelona.

    But it is no guarantee that these five are the best Brazilian players in South American U20.


    Another is the spoken name is Matheus (Bebeto's son). I find it very slow and dispersive, but he is the typical number 10 classic. say they he training very well.


    For me: 2011 >> 2013 = 2009
     
  22. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Matheus is like a younger white version of Renato Abreu not number 10 material.
     
  23. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Seriously? I see Matheus closer to a 10 than a Renato Abreu (a CM)

    He is left-handed, has technique and playing near the attackers. The problema is that it is very slow and seems uninspired, did not show much good in the pros.
     
  24. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I make the comparison because when I watch him play he really is only effective in dead ball situations , he has an awesome left foot but that doesn't mean he is effective with it in open play . He gives the ball away to easy and like you said he is slow and uninspired. He should be playing deeper Flamengo putting him as an outside attacking midfielder was a disaster. I don't see how a guy can be a number 10 if he can't control the ball or complete a pass. @LucasGomes You can type in Portugues to me , i can read it fine I just hate typing in it.
     
  25. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Então, como eu falei, ele surgiu nas categorias de base como um meia-armador, um 4º homem de meio-de-campo, diferente de Renato Abreu que sempre jogou mais recuado. Mas quando a comparação entra nas questões de vontade, atuação em campo e velocidade, sem dúvidas eles estão no mesmo nivel.

    Matheus é lento e não tem brio, me parece. Ele tem habilidade, sabe bater na bola, mas não acredito que terá um grande futuro no futebol. O que pesa ao seu favor é os elogios de quem vê os treinos das seleções de base: dizem que ele sempre treina bem.

    Adryan é melhor do que ele, mas também não apresentou muita coisa. Não acho que ele se tornará um top mundial, mas tem condições de ser bom na Liga Brasileira, como Thiago Neves.
     

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