Obama Failure Thread Part V

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  1. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN A LEFT WING SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT.

    THEY HAVE CHOSEN A PRESIDENT WHOSE POLICIES HAVE FAILED.
     
  2. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
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    What about selling him to a Borg cube?
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Colbert saying the 2nd term's all about impeachment...LOL
     
  4. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    The government will be in charge of administering Obamacare. They will have appointed officials deciding on care. The government is raising taxes on those middle class people who don't have insurance.
     
  5. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
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    Nah, better to scrap it for parts at the junk code yard.
     
  6. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    How is health care European style making Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal more competitive?
     
  7. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
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    And arent they kinda socialist with their "collective" stuff?
     
  8. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    And what does that have to do with controlling the means of production?

    Check.
     
  9. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Next time instead of telling it to eat raw shit, I'll go with..

    [​IMG]

    Assimilate THIS
     
  10. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Obamacare is fascist/corporatist, not socialist. Get your isms straight, son
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    It has been known to correctly deploy the phrase "crony capitalist" in this context. Not sure why it's glitching now.
     
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  12. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Not a failure yet but a potential failure if the Obama administration continues it's heavy handed marijuana policy like they have in California. The people have spoken in Washington and Colorado. It's time for the feds to stand down.
     
  13. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
  14. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Absolutely. They should give marijuana free and the government should pay for it. Give it to anyone of any age who wants it.

    NOT!
     
  15. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    Real Salt Lake
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    Schapes - we have given you tons of leeway in this thread because of its title. But you're off topic and trolling even for this thread, so stop right away.
     
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  16. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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  17. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I think they will. Obama does a lot of this tough-guy stuff for show, centrist voters want him to macho up, otherwise they will Dukakis him. Now that he's won a 2nd term he doesn't need to worry about the testosterone show. Note that he mentioned climate change in his victory speech last night, after being scared away from saying such a thing before the election. He can be different now.
     
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  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Any Republican who talks about the deficit is a troll. Obama has made feeble attempts at addressing the deficit, but they are still attempts. The Republicans have pledged via Grover Norquist to expand the deficit.
     
  19. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    What is this? 1993? Okay. Party on, Garth
     
  20. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
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    Fulham FC
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    That was my hope.

    Fiscal cliff, deficit, all that aside... we'll obviously be dealing with those. But I'm really hoping that Obama can somehow manage to get a) step 1 (whatever that may be) in dealing with the long term impacts of climate change on the US and/or b) an end (or major de-escalation) to the WoD as signature legislation for his 2nd term.
     
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  21. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
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    I think the country is facing some serious problems (economy, debt, climate change, etc. to name a few) that will be difficult and painful to fix. because of the pain that fixing these problems will cause, I think it's a lose/lose proposition to anyone who is going to give an honest effort to try to fix it, rather than take the easy way out and kick the can down the road. the memory of the good old 90s is still too fresh in people's minds, and that is what they're nostalgic for. they don't understand that you can't go back to that. the problems our country faces today preclude a return to the good old days of the 1990s. but any attempts to tackle the problems will inevitably face comparisons to how it was in the 90s, and of course, nothing will measure up to that (economic prosperity, US unquestioned and only superpower both militarily and geopolitically).
     
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  22. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Yes. Part of President Obama's failure when it comes to Obamacare is just this example. The government is controlling production by implementing a tax on devices to fund Obamacare.

    Without Obamacare - 1500 more people would have jobs that now don't. So that is a failure to recognize that Obamacare is stunning growth.

    Which as I said is a failure in policy.
     
  23. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    The question still hasn't been answered: what happens if President Obama fails to deal with the debt as he has failed to do in his first term and it balloons to 22 or 23 trillion dollars after 4 years?

    Will his presidency then be considered a failure?
     
  24. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    same thing that happened for the last 10 presidents who failed to address the debt - nothing. they kicked the can down the road.
     
  25. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    However at what point does the debt become crippling to the economy. Failure to address this by President Obama would be huge.

    Look at Greece. Does President Obama want the US to become like Greece where the debt to GDP ratio is over 100 percent. That would be a failure on President Obama's fault.
    At some point the debt will cripple the country. I think President Obama fails to realize this.
     

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