Summer Transfers 2012

Discussion in 'Everton' started by Smithsoccer1721, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know this forum seems to have died on the update but maybe the summer will bring some people back

    IN
    Naismith (Rangers)

    OUT
    none

    Rumors flying around. Rodellga is supposedly on his way to Goodison. Same with Pranjic as well. Both on free's. Both Pienaar and Donovan have both been continually linked to a move back to the Toffees. Yobo like usual is trying to get a permanent deal away from Everton. Anichebe is also rumored to be on his way out.
     
  2. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Happy with the signing of Naismith, heard nothing but good things about him. Should fit in well within a David Moyes system.

    Due to us having a relatively small squad, any addition is worthwhile so even though it wouldn't look like Pranjic/Rodellega would play often I'm sure come the end of the season, their presence, whether good or bad, would have had an effect on the outcome of the season.

    It's imperative Steven Pienaar comes back. Brilliant footballer.

    As for outgoings, Yobo and Anichebe can go. Neither are good enough for the team (although Victor scored some important goals last season). If we can get a few million for them then it'd help in bringing someone else in. Cannot let Baines and/or Fellaini go.
     
  3. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    I'm sure you guys will bring back Pienaar. He makes a massive difference to your side and it is surprising how he didn't really shine at Spurs.

    How much do you think he'll cost?

    I doubt you'll have a many additions as from what I see you are still struggling financially, so Pienaar could be a shrewd buy.
     
  4. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    No idea how much Spurs are wanting for him but I've seen £5 million mentioned quite a lot and it's reasonable for a player of his age, ability and contract situation at Spurs.

    We're a right winger away from having a very good midfield selection to chose from.
     
  5. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am torn on Pienaar. We know what he provides but he is 30 years old. The squad is getting older and older as it is. I think I would rather take that money and use it on someone younger.
     
  6. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Is he that right winger?

    Would be a boost for you guys if Cahill started hitting form again. He has had a couple of average seasons, by his standards.
     
  7. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Ideally, I'd love to bring in someone of a similar ability to Pienaar but a good 5 or 6 years younger. It would be brilliant but it's not realistic. For some reason, he flourishes at Everton, we know that. I said in the pub after Newcastle at the end of last season that (given how transfer windows at Everton have gone previously) that if we signed Pienaar and kept the core, the quality together, then it would be a successful window for us.

    He's capable of playing anywhere across midfield but he's outstanding in front of Leighton Baines. The two have this incredible understanding.

    Tim hasn't really been the same since the last Asia Cup. Before it, he scored 9 goals coming into January and at one point was joint-leading scorer. Then he went a full year without scoring... I love Tim. You'll struggle to find an Evertonian that doesn't but I think we need to move on from him now.
     
  8. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Would you be willing to sell Baines?

    I see United nsiffing around him and he is someone who could bring in a good wedge for Moyles to strengthen the rest of the side.
     
  9. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. Baines is the most underrated LB in the world and I am not just saying that for effect. The price would need to be $25 million and I dont see that happening.

    I THINK I would rather keep the 4-5 million that would be spent on Pienaar and wait till we can get 4-5 more million and then buy someone around 8-10 million pounds. I know that's risky but when we have so little money to spend I don't know if spending a big amount (by Everton standards) on Pienaar is the best long term solution for the club.
     
  10. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    I wouldn't sell Baines, never. He's probably the most irreplaceable player we have at Everton. There isn't anybody out there, that we can attract and then afford that is better.

    United rumours have been on-going but Everton don't sell cheap. United will have to make a very big offer.
     
  11. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    I agree with you both about Baines, I think he is the best left back in the league. Certainly the best attacking-wise and what he offers with his set plays.

    But ultimately he is a left back and if you got £20 million for him, that is a big wedge to strength Everton more as a whole.
     
  12. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's if you believe David Moyes can actually get to that money. Most believe the bank will take a good portion of that.
     
  13. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Oh yes, well if Moyes doesn't get the money - then keep him.
     
  14. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    He'd get some, whether he gets all of it or not is, like mentioned, up to the banks, if they see money coming into the club they'll be sniffing.

    We do need strengthening though, still got a small squad. We will definitely loan a few players this summer and then hope we get Landon back in January. No decent cover for Jelavic and if Baines does get injured, it's a choice between Distin, Neville or a young Luke Garbutt.

    We'll make do, though. We always do.
     
  15. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    How far away is Ross Barkley from the first team? He looked impressive for the England under 19s.
     
  16. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Not that far away at all. Kept himself healthy after his long injury and performed well. He'll play more this season.
     
  17. LFCeasierthan123

    Jul 23, 2012
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    If Cahill struggles this season I think Barkley could put him under some pressure.
     
  18. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    I don't think Cahill will be a regular this season.
     
  19. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope he isn't because that would mean Moyes is playing the best players and not his favorite. No one will deny what Cahill has meant to the club but he is losing it. Barkley for me needs to see the pitch way more. We lost to QPR last season on opening weekend and Barkley was the best player for either team that day. He needs more time.

    I am not a fan of us loaning anyone in unless there is an option to buy with a set price already. Loans are not free and I would rather than money go towards permanent signings.
     
  20. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Loans are short-term solutions to long-term problems which suit Everton.
     
  21. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is true but I would rather suffer a little in the short term to find a better long term solution. I don't think anyone would say if we didn't get Drenthe last season we would have got relegated. Those funds could have been used elsewhere. However, I do understand WHY we have to do it
     
  22. spider_kin

    spider_kin Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 8, 1999
    Iowa
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Timmy C is off to NYRB pending personal terms and a physical. As mentioned in many places, he was, is and always will be a blues legend, but he hasn't been the same in a while since his last big injury. A change may be what he needs. All the very very best to him and his, I'm sure we'll see him return to Everton as other players have - maybe not to the craziness Dunc inspires :) but still to a very warm welcome!
     
  23. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Even though like mentioned, he wasn't going to feature much it's still horrible to see someone like Tim Cahill leave the club. My Everton hero is Duncan Ferguson, it's pretty much everyone's my age, a player who gave absolutely everything every time he put on an Everton shirt and then Tim came around, not long before Dunc's career was over and pretty much took over.

    I have nothing but admiration and love for him.
     
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  24. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's hard to see Tim leave. However, I think it would have been harder to seem him struggle with Everton. This way we can always remember what he was and not maybe see what he is. He is a legend and the day he retires he should be offered a job at Everton. Love Tim.
     
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  25. LG David

    LG David Member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Completely agree. It was hard to watch him at times in the past 18 months or so. Players come and go, whether with the best wishes of the fans or not. We'll move on. It's a different approach now, which is interesting. We all knew Tim's qualities when he was at his best, I don't think we've got anyone like that at the club. I'd hate to see Fellaini behind Jelavic like towards the end of the season, he done well there but he's a much better central midfielder. Think he bought Naismith to play the "traditional 10" role and will go with him at first.
     

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