EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 13: Only one game in week 13 so not much change. 1. SKC 2.08 2. RSL 2.07 3. NYR 2.00 4. SJE 1.93 5. SEA 1.85 6. DCU 1.80 7. VAN 1.58 8. CLB 1.50 9. COR 1.46 10. HOU 1.45 -------------------------- 11. CHI 1.38 12. NER 1.23 13. CHV 1.15 14. POR 1.08 15. MON 0.92 16. FCD 0.87 17. LAG 0.85 18. PHI 0.73 19.TFC 0.30
Week 14 Inter-Conference schedule: Just the one game this week but it is an inter-conference game. It is another West home game so after Sunday the West will only have 10 more home inter-conference games while the East still has 18 left. VAN v. HOU Inter-conference games by week the rest of the season: By July 15 (end of Week 19) there will only be 15 games left. Week 15: 2 Week 16: 3 Week 17: 2 Week 18: 3 Week 19: 3 Week 20: 1 Week 21: 1 Week 22: 0 Week 23: 0 Week 24: 4 Week 25: 1 Week 26: 2 Week 27: 1 Week 28: 0 Week 29: 3 Week 30: 1 Week 31: 0 Week 32: 0 Week 33: 1
I've skipped to the last page here...PPG is a bad way to do this. You need to use wins minus losses. Here's why. If two Eastern teams tie at one venue and then tie in the return leg, they get 1 PPG. If 2 Western teams each win at home, they get 1.5 PPG.
I'm not sure I get your point. This table is showing the overall standings in the league. And two wins are better than two ties in the standings. 17-0-17 (51 pts) is a lot better than 0-34-0 (34 points) but in your system those two teams would be equal. You don't give any credit for ties? Wins are better than ties but ties are still worth something. Here are the standings by your system. Almost exactly the same, depending on how you break ties. Still shows that the East and West are pretty even which was the original point. 1. RSL 6 2. SKC 5 3. NYR 5 4. SJE 5 5. SEA 4 6. DCU 4 7. VAN 2 8. CLB 1 9. HOU 1 10. COR 0 -------------------------- 11. CHI 0 12. NER -2 13. CHV -2 14. POR -2 15. MON -4 16. FCD -5 17. LAG -5 18. PHI -5 19.TFC -8
Results for Week 14: VAN 3-1 HOU The West gets the lone win this week. Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned. Through Week 14 the West is 27-12-23. EAST SKC 6-1-1 NER 4-0-3 HOU 3-1-2 DCU 2-2-2 NYR 2-2-2 CLB 2-2-2 CHI 2-1-3 PHI 1-2-4 MON 1-1-4 TFC 0-0-4 WEST SJE 4-2-2 SEA 4-1-1 RSL 4-1-1 COR 4-1-3 POR 3-2-2 VAN 3-2-2 FCD 3-1-4 LAG 1-1-4 CHV 1-1-4 Week 15 Inter-Conference schedule: MON v. SEA HOU v. FCD
EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 14: 1. SKC 2.08 2. RSL 2.07 3. NYR 2.00 4. SJE 1.93 5. SEA 1.85 6. DCU 1.80 7. VAN 1.69 8. CLB 1.50 9. COR 1.46 10. CHI 1.38 -------------------------- 11. HOU 1.33 12. NER 1.23 13. CHV 1.15 14. POR 1.08 15. MON 0.92 16. FCD 0.87 17. LAG 0.85 18. PHI 0.73 19.TFC 0.30
Code: 2012 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS 2012 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.A. G.S. G.D. TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT EAST 14.0 7.00 6.00 9.00 5.00 21.0 77.0 72.0 -5.0 62.0 81.0 1.16 1.31 1.24 28.0 WEST 21.0 5.00 9.00 6.00 7.00 14.0 72.0 77.0 5.00 62.0 93.0 1.24 1.50 1.16 28.0 CHIC 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 8.00 6.00 -2.0 6.00 7.00 1.00 1.16 1.33 3.00 CLBS 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00 6.00 8.00 0.83 1.33 0.83 3.00 DCUD 2.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 10.0 1.00 6.00 8.00 1.67 1.33 1.50 3.00 HOUS 1.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 2.00 6.00 5.00 -1.0 6.00 10.0 0.83 1.67 1.00 3.00 MONT 1.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 9.00 6.00 -3.0 6.00 4.00 1.00 0.67 1.50 3.00 NERV 3.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 7.00 11.0 4.00 7.00 12.0 1.57 1.71 1.00 2.00 NYRB 1.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 8.00 9.00 1.00 6.00 8.00 1.50 1.33 1.33 3.00 PHIL 0.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 5.00 -4.0 7.00 5.00 0.71 0.71 1.29 2.00 SPKC 4.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 6.00 12.0 6.00 8.00 19.0 1.50 2.38 0.75 1.00 TORN 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 10.0 3.00 -7.0 4.00 0.00 0.50 0.00 2.50 5.00 CHVS 0.00 0.00 4.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 6.00 3.00 -3.0 6.00 4.00 0.50 0.67 1.00 4.00 COLO 3.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 13.0 13.0 0.00 7.00 13.0 1.86 1.86 1.86 3.00 FCDS 3.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 13.0 10.0 -3.0 8.00 10.0 1.25 1.25 1.63 2.00 LAGA 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 6.00 -3.0 6.00 4.00 1.00 0.67 1.50 4.00 PORT 3.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 5.00 6.00 1.00 7.00 11.0 0.71 1.57 0.86 3.00 RSLK 4.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 4.00 8.00 4.00 6.00 13.0 1.33 2.17 0.67 4.00 SEAT 3.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 4.00 8.00 4.00 6.00 13.0 1.33 2.17 0.50 4.00 SJEQ 2.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 10.0 15.0 5.00 8.00 14.0 1.88 1.75 1.25 2.00 VANC 2.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 8.00 8.00 0.00 7.00 11.0 1.14 1.57 1.14 3.00 There isn't much to say about the changes - it was just one game. With only 28 games left, and a probably WL or WT for the East this upcoming week, it's not going to change much from the status quo week in or week out for the rest of the season. If anything, we will see incremental change to the East or merely stagnation from both conferences. However, since Toronto has five of its remaining inter-conference games yet to play...
Results for Week 15: MON 4-1 SEA HOU 2-1 FCD The East gets two wins this week. The overall is almost even. Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned. Through Week 14 the West is 27-12-25. EAST SKC 6-1-1 HOU 4-1-2 NER 4-0-3 DCU 2-2-2 NYR 2-2-2 CLB 2-2-2 CHI 2-1-3 MON 2-1-4 PHI 1-2-4 TFC 0-0-4 WEST SJE 4-2-2 RSL 4-1-1 SEA 4-1-2 COR 4-1-3 POR 3-2-2 VAN 3-2-2 FCD 3-1-5 LAG 1-1-4 CHV 1-1-4 Week 16 Inter-Conference schedule: SEA v. SKC CHV v. MON VAN v. NYR
Newtex really understates the impact of the last few weeks, almost exclusively dominated by Eastern teams: Code: 2012 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS 2012 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.A. G.S. G.D. TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT EAST 16.0 7.00 6.00 9.00 5.00 21.0 79.0 78.0 -1.0 64.0 87.0 1.23 1.36 1.23 26.0 WEST 21.0 5.00 9.00 6.00 7.00 16.0 78.0 79.0 1.00 64.0 93.0 1.23 1.45 1.23 26.0 CHIC 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 8.00 6.00 -2.0 6.00 7.00 1.00 1.16 1.33 3.00 CLBS 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00 6.00 8.00 0.83 1.33 0.83 3.00 DCUD 2.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 10.0 1.00 6.00 8.00 1.67 1.33 1.50 3.00 HOUS 2.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 2.00 7.00 7.00 0.00 7.00 13.0 1.00 1.86 1.00 2.00 MONT 2.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 4.00 10.0 10.0 0.00 7.00 7.00 1.43 1.00 1.43 2.00 NERV 3.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 7.00 11.0 4.00 7.00 12.0 1.57 1.71 1.00 2.00 NYRB 1.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 8.00 9.00 1.00 6.00 8.00 1.50 1.33 1.33 3.00 PHIL 0.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 5.00 -4.0 7.00 5.00 0.71 0.71 1.29 2.00 SPKC 4.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 6.00 12.0 6.00 8.00 19.0 1.50 2.38 0.75 1.00 TORN 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 10.0 3.00 -7.0 4.00 0.00 0.50 0.00 2.50 5.00 CHVS 0.00 0.00 4.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 6.00 3.00 -3.0 6.00 4.00 0.50 0.67 1.00 4.00 COLO 3.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 13.0 13.0 0.00 7.00 13.0 1.86 1.86 1.86 3.00 FCDS 3.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.00 15.0 11.0 -4.0 9.00 10.0 1.22 1.11 1.67 1.00 LAGA 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 6.00 -3.0 6.00 4.00 1.00 0.67 1.50 4.00 PORT 3.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 5.00 6.00 1.00 7.00 11.0 0.71 1.57 0.86 3.00 RSLK 4.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 4.00 8.00 4.00 6.00 13.0 1.33 2.17 0.67 4.00 SEAT 3.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 8.00 9.00 1.00 7.00 13.0 1.29 1.86 1.14 3.00 SJEQ 2.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 10.0 15.0 5.00 8.00 14.0 1.88 1.75 1.25 2.00 VANC 2.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 8.00 8.00 0.00 7.00 11.0 1.14 1.57 1.14 3.00 In terms of overall GPG and GAPG, the two conferences are dead even; the West has scored exactly one more goal in inter-conference play than the West. The six point difference is completely from the West's 21-5-9 home record, compared to the East's 16-7-6 home record. The PPG difference is down to +0.09 for the West. Breaking down the data even further: The East has four teams (Chicago, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto) under the 1.33 Mendoza line. By contrast, the West has three (Chivas, Dallas, Los Angeles) below 1.33 PPG. That's 40% and 33%, pretty damn close with such small sample sizes. We have two teams with 1 game left: Kansas City (2.38 PPG) and Dallas (1.11 PPG). Then there's four teams with only two games left: Houston (1.86 PPG), Montreal (1.00), New England (1.71), San Jose (1.75). Like it or not, even when those teams finish they still contribute to the overall average, meaning that teams that finish early and get their points in will help their conference in our 'standings.' The miniscule number of remaining games means that teams with lots of games left (Toronto, Chivas, LA, Salt Lake) won't be able to nudge the tally much in either direction. Moreover, the West has only ten home games to the East's 16 home games left. This means that Chivas and LA, who aren't doing so hot anyway, will be playing most of their remaining games on the road. Not many games left, but Eastern-Conference fans should have some cautious optimism that their conference's chosen team has a good shot to win MLS Cup for the first time since 2008.
EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 15: First time this year the West does not have 5 teams in the top 10 of the league. 1. SKC 2.15 2. RSL 2.13 3. SJE 1.93 4. DCU 1.88 5. NYR 1.86 6. VAN 1.78 7. SEA 1.71 8. CHI 1.50 9. CLB 1.46 10. HOU 1.46 -------------------------- 11. COR 1.36 12. NER 1.21 13. CHV 1.07 14. MON 1.07 15. LAG 1.00 16. POR 1.00 17. FCD 0.81 18. PHI 0.67 19.TFC 0.27
I think that's a strange conclusion to draw from the inter-conference standing. Especially since the playoffs are now strictly by conference. In the past the crossover system meant that the stronger conference got more teams in the playoffs. That advantage is now gone. The Cup final is just one team against another team.
Possibly. My thinking is that the best Eastern team in inter-conference play has a higher PPG than the highest Western team, but the sample sizes and total games played are just too small to make any real inference. Compared to last year, the Eastern fans should be optimistic, for the reason you suggested and that the East actually has a few good teams.
1) I don't know anyone who is a fan of a conference 2) Conferences don't win championships, teams do. History is replete with championship teams that have come from weaker conferences/divisions/leagues.
Results for Week 16: SEA 1-1 SKC CHV 2-1 MON VAN 1-1 NYR One home win and two home ties for the West this week. The West now has only 7 home games left while the East has 16. Through Week 16 the West is 28-14-25. Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned. BOLD means inter-conference schedule is complete. EAST SKC 6-2-1 HOU 4-1-2 NER 4-0-3 NYR 2-3-2 DCU 2-2-2 CLB 2-2-2 CHI 2-1-3 MON 2-1-5 PHI 1-2-4 TFC 0-0-4 WEST SJE 4-2-2 SEA 4-2-2 RSL 4-1-1 COR 4-1-3 VAN 3-3-2 POR 3-2-2 FCD 3-1-5 CHV 2-1-4 LAG 1-1-4 Week 17 Inter-Conference schedule: NER v. SEA CLB v. RSL
EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 16: San Jose takes over the top spot but still only 4 West teams in the top 10. 1. SJE 2.06 2. SKC 1.93 3. RSL 1.88 4. NYR 1.88 5. DCU 1.76 6. VAN 1.62 7. CHI 1.60 8. SEA 1.56 9. CLB 1.36 10. HOU 1.33 -------------------------- 11. COR 1.27 12. LAG 1.25 13. NER 1.20 14. CHV 1.19 15. POR 1.14 16. MON 1.12 17. PHI 0.85 18. FCD 0.82 19. TFC 0.38
Code: 2012 HOME HOME HOME AWAY AWAY AWAY TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS TOTS 2012 WINS TIES LOSS WINS TIES LOSS G.A. G.S. G.D. TGP. PTS. GPG. PPG. GAPG GLFT EAST 16.0 7.00 6.00 9.00 7.00 22.0 83.0 81.0 -2.0 67.0 89.0 1.21 1.33 1.24 23.0 WEST 22.0 7.00 9.00 6.00 7.00 16.0 81.0 83.0 2.00 67.0 98.0 1.24 1.46 1.21 23.0 CHIC 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 8.00 6.00 -2.0 6.00 7.00 1.00 1.16 1.33 3.00 CLBS 1.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 5.00 5.00 0.00 6.00 8.00 0.83 1.33 0.83 3.00 DCUD 2.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 10.0 1.00 6.00 8.00 1.67 1.33 1.50 3.00 HOUS 2.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 2.00 7.00 7.00 0.00 7.00 13.0 1.00 1.86 1.00 2.00 MONT 2.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 4.00 12.0 11.0 -1.0 8.00 7.00 1.38 0.88 1.50 1.00 NERV 3.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 3.00 7.00 11.0 4.00 7.00 12.0 1.57 1.71 1.00 2.00 NYRB 1.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 10.0 1.00 7.00 9.00 1.43 1.29 1.29 2.00 PHIL 0.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 5.00 -4.0 7.00 5.00 0.71 0.71 1.29 2.00 SPKC 4.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 2.00 1.00 7.00 13.0 6.00 9.00 20.0 1.44 2.22 0.78 0.00 TORN 0.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 0.00 2.00 10.0 3.00 -7.0 4.00 0.00 0.50 0.00 2.50 5.00 CHVS 1.00 0.00 4.00 1.00 1.00 0.00 7.00 5.00 -2.0 7.00 7.00 0.71 1.00 1.00 3.00 COLO 3.00 1.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 2.00 13.0 13.0 0.00 7.00 13.0 1.86 1.86 1.86 3.00 FCDS 3.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 5.00 15.0 11.0 -4.0 9.00 10.0 1.22 1.11 1.67 1.00 LAGA 1.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 9.00 6.00 -3.0 6.00 4.00 1.00 0.67 1.50 4.00 PORT 3.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 2.00 5.00 6.00 1.00 7.00 11.0 0.71 1.57 0.86 3.00 RSLK 4.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 1.00 4.00 8.00 4.00 6.00 13.0 1.33 2.17 0.67 4.00 SEAT 3.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 9.00 10.0 1.00 8.00 14.0 1.25 1.75 1.13 2.00 SJEQ 2.00 1.00 1.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 10.0 15.0 5.00 8.00 14.0 1.88 1.75 1.25 2.00 VANC 2.00 2.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00 9.00 9.00 0.00 8.00 12.0 1.13 1.50 1.13 2.00 Here's the chart. I'm leaving tomorrow for a month so newtex will handle the major influx of games until then, as he's always done. The West gained back some ground, but all three games were Western home games so the Eastern teams haven't lost anything; if anything, picking up two points against Seattle and Vancouver only helps their chances. On an unrelated note, everybody make sure they watch the austerity team take on the anti-austerity team for the Euro finals.
Results for Week 17: NER 2-2 SEA CLB 2-0 RSL The East gets a home win and a tie. Through Week 17 the West is 28-15-26. Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned. BOLD means inter-conference schedule is complete. EAST SKC 6-2-1 HOU 4-1-2 NER 4-1-3 CLB 3-2-2 NYR 2-3-2 DCU 2-2-2 CHI 2-1-3 MON 2-1-5 PHI 1-2-4 TFC 0-0-4 WEST SEA 4-3-2 SJE 4-2-2 RSL 4-1-2 COR 4-1-3 VAN 3-3-2 POR 3-2-2 FCD 3-1-5 CHV 2-1-4 LAG 1-1-4 Week 18 Inter-Conference schedule: FCD v. TFC LAG v. PHI CHI v. LAG
EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 17: Not much changed this week except that the East now has 3 of the top 4 teams and Chicago is breathing down RSL's neck to make that 4 out of the top 5. 1. SJE 2.18 2. DCU 1.83 3. NYR 1.82 4. SKC 1.81 5. RSL 1.78 6. CHI 1.69 7. VAN 1.62 8. SEA 1.53 9. CLB 1.47 10. HOU 1.44 -------------------------- 11. COR 1.38 12. NER 1.19 13. CHV 1.19 14. LAG 1.18 15. POR 1.07 16. MON 1.00 17. FCD 0.82 18. PHI 0.78 19.TFC 0.60
Results for Week 18: FCD 1-1 TFC LAG 1-2 PHI CHI 0-2 LAG Even week with both conferences going 1-1-1. Through Week 18 the West is 29-16-27. Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned. BOLD means inter-conference schedule is complete. EAST SKC 6-2-1 HOU 4-1-2 NER 4-1-3 CLB 3-2-2 NYR 2-3-2 DCU 2-2-2 PHI 2-2-4 CHI 2-1-4 MON 2-1-5 TFC 0-1-4 WEST SEA 4-3-2 SJE 4-2-2 RSL 4-1-2 COR 4-1-3 VAN 3-3-2 POR 3-2-2 FCD 3-2-5 CHV 2-1-4 LAG 2-1-5 Week 19 Inter-Conference schedule: TFC v. VAN CHI v. VAN NYR v. SEA
EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 18: RSL and Vancouver moved up a bit but there are now only 4 West teams in the top 11. 1. SJE 1.95 2. SKC 1.83 3. DCU 1.83 4. RSL 1.80 5. NYR 1.72 6. VAN 1.67 7. SEA 1.58 8. CHI 1.55 9. HOU 1.39 10. CLB 1.38 -------------- 11. NER 1.29 12. COR 1.22 13. LAG 1.21 14. CHV 1.17 15. POR 1.12 16. PHI 1.06 17. MON 1.05 18. FCD 0.84 19.TFC 0.59
Still one more inter-conference game this weekend but right now it's dead even: 29-16-29 The East could take the lead with a NY win over Seattle.
Results for Week 19: TFC 3-2 VAN CHI 1-0 VAN NYR 2-2 SEA The East goes 2-1-0 this week to even up the standings! Through Week 19 the West is 29-17-29. Only 15 games left to play. Standings are W-T-L. Teams are ranked by Points Earned. BOLD means inter-conference schedule is complete. EAST SKC 6-2-1 HOU 4-1-2 NER 4-1-3 CLB 3-2-2 NYR 2-4-2 DCU 2-2-2 PHI 2-2-4 CHI 3-1-4 MON 2-1-5 TFC 1-1-4 WEST SEA 4-4-2 SJE 4-2-2 RSL 4-1-2 COR 4-1-3 VAN 3-3-4 POR 3-2-2 FCD 3-2-5 CHV 2-1-4 LAG 2-1-5 Week 20 Inter-Conference schedule: TFC v. COR
EAST and WEST combined table by overall PPG through week 19: The Galaxy move up into the top 10 overall which means the West once again has 5 teams up there. 1. SJE 2.00 2. SKC 1.89 3. DCU 1.74 4. RSL 1.71 5. NYR 1.68 6. CHI 1.63 7. SEA 1.55 8. VAN 1.50 9. HOU 1.47 10. LAG 1.30 -------------------------- 11. CLB 1.29 12. NER 1.22 13. PHI 1.18 14. CHV 1.18 15. COR 1.16 16. POR 1.05 17. MON 1.00 18. FCD 0.95 19.TFC 0.84