2011/12 Masahiko Inoha @ HNK Hajduk Split (CRO/EL) Thread

That would be a huge mistake.
Huesca is struggling to avoid relegation to 3rd division of Spanish football.. REALLY?!

 

Just a rumour making the round after a Spanish football writer wrote something on twitter.

I wonder if Hajduk have submitted his release papers to UEFA anyway. If not, he might not even sign for Huesca.

 

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/revolucion-llegan-antonio-nunez-mario/20120201dasdaiftb_26/Tes

 

http://www.sponichi.co.jp/soccer/news/2012/02/02/kiji/K20120202002552560.html

Vissel close to signing him.

 

And according to Daily he'll join the team on 3rd.

 

What a squad for Kobe!

 

That yakinikuya is extremely accurate with it's predictions I must say

 

Well, at least we found a good replacement for him, you will know that player very well as he also played in J-league. Mato Neretljak

 

Never heard of him, seems like an over-the-hill croatian player may not be the same quality as a current Japan international, but whatever best of luck. Hope his wages are low enough to be paid on time.

Did Inoha get paid in the end (honest question) for the 3 months wages owed?
If he didn't, that would be really really messed up.

 

No, if he did get paid, he wouldn't have been able to sign for other clubs.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mato_Neretljak

No, we didn't pay him. If he just wanted to wait for couple of days when whole team recieved money for that 3 months he would get it. And why would we even pay him, he suddenly left without single word and falied to report to our coach for several days?

 

What kind of sane person wouldn't get slightly annoyed if he wasn't paid for three whole months? The coach knew all of this was happening as well?

 

I read somewhere two other foreign players left your team over payment issues after Inoha?

Anyway, it's not his fault that he didn't get paid. He could have left even a minute before he was paid, and it's still not his fault.

It's his and his agent's fault that he joined Hajduk without knowing what can happen in your league.

 

No, we just got rid off players we didn't need to reduce the wage bill.

Yes, but he also could have waited for couple of days, we have around 25 players in 1st team squad and no one decided to do what Inoha did.

Btw. apparently he was wanted by Huesca in Spanish 2. division but they didn't want to sign him because they didn't know is he a free player or not (and I also don't know it either )

Anyway, my point is, as i said it before, he used this situation to get back home to Japan.

 

It's just not the standard to wait a bit longer for your employer to pay you if he hasn't done so for three months. If you are not used to it nor grew up at the club nor think playing at Hajduk is the greatest thing to happen to you, you go somewhere where you are paid in time. I don't think this is debatable.

There's a provision in the FIFA regulations that a player becomes a free agent if he is not paid for three months. Probably Huesca didn't have that much experience with players with that kind of history as... *



*Go to first line of my answer

 

So i was correct, you did get an over the hill croatian defender as your best effort to replace a current japan international. Hopefully he's okay with not being paid.

You understand your club employed him for roughly 6 months...........and in that time, they managed to get 3 months behind........That is ridiculous, only done by some backwards amateur operation obviously going on in leagues like the croatian one.
He worked for 6 months, not 3 months, so the principle is you pay him for 6 months.

It's a little ridiculous you thinking the only reason why he bailed on your team is that he wanted to go to japan. You see no connection to being 3 months behind, and not wanting to continue working for your employers, none at all? You think it's completely normal and reasonable to be 3 months behind after only 6 months.
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Don't they have some kind of Players Association in croatia to prevent crap like that?

 

First of all I wasn't expecting that such a club as Hajduk could be 3 months late with paying a newly signed player. The others in the squad stayed as they didn't have an occasion to go anywhere else. Their contracts are signed and they, together with lawyers, will surely get all those money even if that would take them years I can easily understand Inoha. And don't compare him with Mato as they're completely different players

 

Unfortunately we don't have much money, as in previous seasons we bought low quality players and gave them crazy high sallaries and our previous presidents and other members of the administration were very much shit and didn't do anything positive for the club. So now we are starting from the beggining, big number of youth players is promoted into the first team. Even coach Balakov and his assistants reduced their wage for 40 %.

Erm, not quite. When we sell players, they usually forgive us all the debts we have to them Mato is a legend here, hope he continues this high goal scoring ratio from free kicks over here

Akitod, yes there is actually, currently they are dealing with the clubs that are late with paying wages for 6 months minimum. Most of the clubs in our league have been affected by crisis and are late with paying.

 

I don't know he's such a big personality there. I've seen a lot of his play at Suwon last year but I've never seen him taking FK. But since there were players like Yeom Ki-Hun that's easy to understand.

 

Wow. Why hasn't FIFA stepped in and rolled up the entire Croatian league if this kind of unprofessionalism is so rampant? The mind boggles

 

Perhaps because FIFA, along with F-1, is one of the most corrupt sports governing bodies?

 

Tell me about it, Andrew Jennings is a hero.

I just can't understand how these leagues are even still in existence, it's an embarrassment to the sport. But then so is FIFA, so on it goes I guess.

 

I'm more surprised that it seems like they intentionally attract players with salaries they can't pay them. Just cause other teams do it.

I'm no accountant, but for an accountant i'm sure it's not all that hard to be able to predict 6 months in advance what you can and cannot pay comfortably. Even Kashima Antlers & Vegalta Sendai who got hit by the disaster completely out of nowhere, have managed to pay their players (at least I haven't heard otherwise).

 

The moral of this story is that "going abroad" is not always the better.
Japanese football and the J.League has reached a high level both in terms of quality and professionalism.
But sometimes the first to not understand this are japanese players and media,which seems to keep livin' in the myth that real football is abroad.
Hope this would be a good lesson.