Mexico game stat analysis

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team: News, Analysis & History' started by Manolo Rodriguez, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. Manolo Rodriguez

    Jul 1, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I did some stat analysis of the Mexico vs Chile game on September 4th. A long time ago I know, blame it on laziness, procrastination, and how time consuming this process is. But I'm figuring out ways to work faster so hopefully I'll have the Mexico vs Brasil stats up quicker.

    Anyway, one caveat first. Univision has a habit of showing replays 3-4 times, or putting fans on the screen, or the teams' suplentes on the screen, while the game is still being played, so my stats aren't 100% complete.

    Also, some things are a little bit subjective. At what point exactly does a lateral pass become a forward pass for example. I used my own judgement.

    Overall team completed pass percentage: 325/382, 85%

    Individual completed pass percentage:

    Gio Dos Santos: 27/33, 81%. 13/14 bp (back passes) 8/9 lp (lateral passes)
    83 minutes played 6/10 fp (forward passes)

    Aldo de Nigris: 6/8, 75%. 2/3 bp, 4/4 lp, 0/1 fp
    45 minutes played

    Hobbit: 11/16, 68%. 6/6 bp, 2/4 lp, 3/6 fp
    60 minutes played

    Castro: 55/62, 88%. 18/18 bp, 22/23 lp, 15/21 fp
    90 minutes played

    Marquez: 48/53, 90%. 4/4 bp, 14/14 lp, 30/35 fp
    90 minutes played

    Duenas: 30/32, 93%. 5/5 bp, 3/3 lp, 22/24 fp
    90 minutes played

    Cherokee: 39/45, 86%. 16/16 bp, 9/9 lp, 14/20 fp
    90 minutes played

    Aldrete: 33/38, 86%. 16/16 bp, 7/7 lp, 10/15 fp
    78 minutes played

    Zavala: 41/47, 87%. 11/12 bp, 11/11 lp, 19/24 fp
    90 minutes played

    Velarde: 7/13, 53%. 1/2 bp, 5/8 lp, 1/3 fp
    64 minutes played

    Chicharito: 6/8, 75%. 3/4 bp, 2/3 lp, 1/1 fp
    45 minutes played

    Barrera: 4/5, 80%. 1/1 bp, 2/2 lp, 1/2 fp
    30 minutes played

    Guardado: 12/15, 80%. 5/5 bp, 4/4 lp, 3/6 fp
    26 minutes played

    Salcido: 4/4, 100%. 1/1 bp, 1/1 lp, 2/2 fp
    12 minutes played

    Torrado: 2/3, 66%. 1/1 bp, 1/1 lp, 0/1 fp
    7 minutes played

    Individual possession: ball lost (bl), having the ball taken from you, vs ball recovered (br), intercepting a pass or taking the ball from an opponent

    Gio Dos Santos: 3 bl, 9 br

    Aldo de Nigris: 4 bl, 1 br

    Hobbit: 4 bl, 3 br

    Castro: 0 bl, 6 br

    Marquez: 0 bl, 13 br

    Duenas: 0 bl, 6 br

    Cherokee: 1 bl, 7 br

    Aldrete: 0 bl, 4 br

    Zavala: 4 bl, 9 br

    Velarde: 2 bl, 4 br

    Chicharito: 2 bl, 1 br

    Barrera: 4 bl, 0 br

    Guardado: 1 bl, 2 br

    Salcido: 0 bl, 1 br

    Torrado: 0 bl, 1 br

    Individual crosses. I classified crosses into the box as their own category of pass since their completion rate is much lower than for other types of passes. For me a completed cross is a cross where a team mate either receives the cross or shoots directly.

    Gio Dos Santos: 0/2 cr

    Hobbit: 0/4 cr

    Castro: 0/1 cr

    Cherokee: 1/2 cr

    Aldrete: 0/1 cr

    Velarde: 0/1 cr

    Individual clearances. A clearance for me is when a player doesn't attempt to possess the ball but simply tries to kick/head it towards another part of the field, usually away from his own goal. With these, the first number in the ratio is clearances that were recovered by your own team, the second number is total clearances. So 0/1 for example is one clearance that was recovered by other team.

    Castro: 0/1 cl

    Marquez: 4/7 cl

    Duenas: 3/8 cl

    Cherokee: 3/5 cl

    Aldrete: 1/6 cl

    Zavala: 0/3 cl

    Chicharito: 1/1 cl

    Barrera: 0/1 cl

    Guardado: 0/1 cl

    Salcido: 1/2 cl

    Torrado: 0/1 cl

    Last but not least, individual shots. First number in the ratio is shots on target, second number is total shots.

    Gio Dos Santos: 1/2 sh

    Castro: 1/1 sh

    Duenas: 0/1 sh

    Velarde: 0/1 sh

    Chicharito: 0/1 sh

    Barrera: 0/2 sh

    Guardado: 1/1 sh (goal)
     
  2. Baysic

    Baysic Member+

    Jun 11, 2009
    The Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Club América
    lol....torrado -_-
     
  3. elvasco

    elvasco 100% Americanista

    Sep 10, 2006
    chispa Velarde is a joke, and I knew that even before I saw these stats.
     
  4. Robert_08

    Robert_08 Member

    Jun 13, 2007
    El Paso
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol at velarde
     
  5. El Washatero

    El Washatero Member+

    Nov 5, 2007
    AP Top 25!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's a good league player but not NT material
     
  6. DoctorDirector

    Sep 3, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Analysis & observations, granted for 1 game extrapolating a rep, but it's a start, more opportunities to come, hopefully with more stats...

    Velarde and de nigris demonstrate the difference in quality in a short period from their still young generation to the even younger kids that sparked the phrase golden generation, they can be very good, but they cannot rep as impressively as chich and gio do for the golden gen.
    Velarde=Club boxer? Or will he still improve?

    Israel Castro more impressive than European experienced Gerardo torrado but then torrado had few minutes to warm up.
    Torrado age may explain difference, 32 is a bit over the soccer player physical prime, his knees must be feeling it by now, Castro is still 30.

    Dueñas impressed more than it showed previously and not sure why he's so unpopular in some of the forums. I don't like Chepo bringing all his Toluca oldies all the time, but sometimes they do have quality. Duenas is doing well.



    Marquez still rocking them, still passes like a barca player capable of tiki-taka style. Barca may not be holding him until retirement, but he still earns his bank, new York is full of soccer newbies.

    Zavala did very well for a new guy.

    Hobbit is not ready yet and continues to disappoint and it must be apparent to most observers by now, their eyes were not deceiving them, it's in the numbers.

    Also Cherokee did well, passing, crossing, and recovering!
    Aldrete did okay to good, mainly on recoveries to losses.

    Who were all these individuals pressured by ? Obviously whoever faced Alexis sanchez had pressure.
     
  7. DoctorDirector

    Sep 3, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Also, check out memo's wiki stats, it shows so much improvement, current stats by tala era are better for the n.t. Than old stats for gio, but gio has really been on an upswing. His latest stats have been an improvement.

    Brazil was always an issue, as was the Netherlands and of course Spain.

    These are practical statistics, would love to see how french gio deals with top teams today as he continues to grow.

    I would love to see more statistics against top teams by top goalkeepers, but hoe often do we see a brazil level friendly lik this month's?
     
  8. DoctorDirector

    Sep 3, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Autocorrect and thoughtless accidents, ugh... That's talavera and then French Memo.
     
  9. Martin del Palacio

    Nov 14, 2005
    What do you mean by Memo's wiki stats?
     
  10. DoctorDirector

    Sep 3, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Ochoa



    [hide]Ochoa – appearances for Mexico
    # Date Venue --- ***Opponent GA Result Competition
    1. December 14, 2005 Phoenix, United States **Hungary 0 2–0 Friendly
    2. February 28, 2007 San Diego, United States **Venezuela 1 3–1 Friendly
    3. March 25, 2007 San Nicolás, Mexico **Paraguay 1 2–1 Friendly
    4. March 28, 2007 Oakland, United States **Ecuador 2 4–2 Friendly
    5. June 2, 2007 San Luis Potosí, Mexico **Iran 0 4–0 Friendly
    6. June 8, 2007 East Rutherford, United States **Cuba 1 2–1 2007 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    7. June 27, 2007 Puerto Ordaz, Venezuela **Brazil 0 2–0 2007 Copa América
    8. July 4, 2007 Puerto la Cruz, Venezuela **Chile 0 0–0 2007 Copa América
    9. July 14, 2007 Caracas, Venezuela **Uruguay 1 3–1 2007 Copa América
    10. August 22, 2007 Commerce City, United States **Colombia 1 0–1 Friendly
    11. September 9, 2007 Puebla, Mexico **Panama 0 1–0 Friendly
    12. September 12, 2007 Foxborough, United States **Brazil 3 1–3 Friendly
    13. October 14, 2007 Ciudad Juárez, Mexico **Nigeria 2 2–2 Friendly
    14. October 17, 2007 Los Angeles, United States **Guatemala 3 2–3 Friendly
    15. February 6, 2008 Houston, United States **United States 2 2–2 Friendly
    16. September 24, 2008 Los Angeles, United States **Chile 1 0–1 Friendly
    17. November 12, 2008 Phoenix, United States **Ecuador 1 2–1 Friendly
    18. January 28, 2009 Oakland, United States **Sweden 1 0–1 Friendly
    19. March 11, 2009 Commerce City, United States **Bolivia 1 5–1 Friendly
    20. March 28, 2009 Mexico City, Mexico **Costa Rica 0 2–0 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    21. April 1, 2009 San Pedro Sula, Honduras **Honduras 3 1–3 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    22. June 24, 2009 Atlanta, United States **Venezuela 0 4–0 Friendly
    23. July 5, 2009 Oakland, United States **Nicaragua 0 2–0 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    24. July 9, 2009 Houston, United States **Panama 1 1–1 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    25. July 12, 2009 Glendale, United States **Guadeloupe 0 2–0 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    26. July 19, 2009 Arlington, United States **Haiti 0 4–0 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    27. July 23, 2009 Chicago, United States **Costa Rica 1 5–4 (p.s.o.) 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    28. July 26, 2009 East Rutherford, United States **United States 0 5–0 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup
    29. August 12, 2009 Mexico City, Mexico **United States 1 2–1 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    30. September 5, 2009 San José, Costa Rica **Costa Rica 0 0–3 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    31. September 9, 2009 Mexico City, Mexico **Honduras 0 1–0 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    32. October 10, 2009 Mexico City, Mexico **El Salvador 1 4–1 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    33. October 14, 2009 Port of Spain, Trinidad & Tobago **Trinidad & Tobago 2 2–2 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
    34. March 17, 2010 Torreón, Mexico **North Korea 1 2–1 Friendly
    35. May 13, 2010 Houston, United States **Angola 0 1–0 Friendly
    36. May 16, 2010 Mexico City, Mexico **Chile 0 1–0 Friendly
    37. May 26, 2010 Freiburg, Germany **Netherlands 2 1–2 Friendly
    38. August 11, 2010 Mexico City, Mexico **Spain 0 1–1 Friendly
    39. September 4, 2010 Zapopan, Mexico **Ecuador 2 1–2 Friendly
    40. September 7, 2010 San Nicolás, Mexico **Colombia 0 1–0 Friendly
    40. September 7, 2010 Ciudad Juárez, Mexico **Venezuela 2 2–2 Friendly
    42. March 29, 2011 San Diego, United States **Venezuela 1 1–1 Friendly
    43. May 28, 2011 Seattle, United States **Ecuador 1 1–1 Friendly
    44. June 1, 2011 Denver, United States **New Zealand 0 3–0 Friendly
    45. June 5, 2011 Arlington, United States **El Salvador 0 5–0 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup
     
  11. Robert_08

    Robert_08 Member

    Jun 13, 2007
    El Paso
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ochoa played 36 games prior to the WC and still didn't play! Fuck you Aguirre :mad:
     
  12. DoctorDirector

    Sep 3, 2011
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If memo gets more consistent against brazil now that he's getting experience in Europe, he should get more consistent call ups, but his 07 history trails him, one clean sheet and one with 3 goals allowed. Maybe this game will help him turn the page on his past.
     

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