USA vs. Costa Rica 9/3 Post-Match [R]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. Adiaga Two

    Adiaga Two Member+

    Oct 4, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USA vs. Costa Rica 9/3 Post-Mortem [R]

    I love how we're supposed to beat Mexico by two goals in every Gold Cup final, but Costa Rica's B-team is all of sudden an understandable loss.
     
  2. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USA vs. Costa Rica 9/3 Post-Mortem [R]

    There were two basic problems with Edu all night:

    1) Too much pressure. In the role he was asked to do, charging up field to pressure the ball is a no-no. You've got to hold your position and slow down Costa Rica enough for Rogers and Torres to win the ball back. Rogers wasn't doing that but Torres was. On several occasions (possibly even on the goal, I don't remember) Edu went in for a challenge and didn't win it cleanly and the ball would bounce to a Costa Rican player who now had nothing but daylight between him and the back line. The general rule is that he should be able to see just about everything from his vantage point, and when he charges in to pressure the ball, he loses that vantage point. With twin d-mids he can, but with just him back there in the Busquets spot he needs to be more disciplined. To be fair this is a problem with Michael as well.

    2) His passing was slow and telegraphed. Just because he's the ballwinner doesn't mean he also isn't tasked with starting up the attack from the back.
     
  3. juventino3

    juventino3 Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Re: USA vs. Costa Rica 9/3 Post-Mortem [R]

    I did to and historically I have not been a fan of his game. Edu was even pretty clean on the ball for once.
     
  4. pwk1868

    pwk1868 Member

    Aug 29, 2008
    Chicago
    I think that's a good point especially when playing some type of the 4-3-3. Look at someone like Mikel for Chelsea who plays that role in the same formation. I know a different class of player, but he wins the ball then plays a good, smart pass to start the attack from a deep position. Edu seemed to struggle with that.
     
  5. Pandy Flapjack

    Pandy Flapjack The Pompitous of Love

    Aug 30, 2003
    Van by the River
    What did I learn from this match?

    1) The winning goal came from a player that could of played for the US but chose to play for Honduras (??? thanks Ian and Harksey X2)

    2) Castillo is Bornstein 2.0

    3) LD is capable of becoming Casper the Friendly Ghost
     
  6. INKRO

    INKRO Member+

    Jul 28, 2011
    And if you watch the second, you wouldn't so that's the other side of the coin. :p
     
  7. jamezyjamez

    jamezyjamez Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Re: USA vs. Costa Rica 9/3 Post-Mortem [R]

    really good: torres, altidore
    good: edu, shea
    meh: the defense
    bad: donovan
     
  8. alocksley

    alocksley Member

    Jan 30, 2004
    Burbank, CA
    Someone please explain why Shea and Rogers switched sides after an effective opening stretch? For the rest of the game, they proceded to botch crosses with less favored foot or cut in ineffectively.
     
  9. ctoa23

    ctoa23 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    E&G Forum
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did he really do wrong? Had a couple really great runs up the middle to open things up. Hardly put in a wrong foot during his time.
     
  10. Missionary

    Missionary Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    Mission Viejo
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The team dominated until they ran out of gas. There were many decent chances the first half that should have finished.
     
  11. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member+

    Apr 30, 2007
    Providence, RI
    The bigsoccer USA forums are adjusting to the pain of losing when your team was better. The result sucks and then it leads to a lot of silly overthinking. Let's just bring on Belgium. Insert Dempsey for Donovan and play the same formation.
     
  12. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, I'm not trying to be all "doom & gloom". I'm just don't feel like sugar-coating a (very) poor result. I'll leave that to the rest of y'all. For me, it's "shame shit, new day", and I'm frustrated. Shoulda waxed the floor with those suckas. :eek:
     
  13. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His touch was awful and he really didn't produce anything. He might have had one good run, but again it didn't lead to anything.
     
  14. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Actually, this drove me INSANE and I commented about it to my girlfriend when it happened. Good catch, I had forgotten about it somehow.

    Really poor tactical adjustment.
     
  15. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USA vs. Costa Rica 9/3 Post-Mortem [R]

    And again, we TIED with them at home. And we were down 2-0 until we tied with them. The final goal game in the 94th minute.

    We are missing several players from that tie as well. Stop acting like this was our full "A" team against their JV.
     
  16. beto07010

    beto07010 Member

    Aug 4, 2011
    You might think too highly of our team. It's there B team, was that our A team? Hell, do we even have an A team right now? It's a new coach with new players, with a new system that's foreign to a lot of the players..calm down, we're trying to develop into something and it's not going to happen over night.

    Klejstan didn't show me anything, he was useless out there..don't get what some people see..
     
  17. joe

    joe Member+

    Jul 12, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    at this point its not the main objective
     
  18. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this evidence that the match was positive?
     
  19. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We were playing against Honduras out there?
     
  20. alocksley

    alocksley Member

    Jan 30, 2004
    Burbank, CA
    One. There was one decent chance (Donovan muff) plus maybe a half chance by Altidore. They needed some punch in the box, i.e. Dempsey.
     
  21. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^^^ You saw the same game that I did. I don't think anyone on the team was horribly bad, but everyone on the team played "lightweight." No-one on the US covered himself in glory, tonight.
     
  22. elvinjones

    elvinjones Member

    Jul 4, 2011
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan had a terrible game and looked awful. Cut him.

    Or is he actually good?

    There's black and white and statistics, then there is soccer. Donovan will find his place in the new team. He will figure out how to work with Torres. Who BTW, 75% of BS members criticized over and over and over again.

    I hope our team learned a lot from this game. TO ME, we seemed to lose the confidence and willpower when CR played up. Unacceptable.

    And people, get used to seeing freer play. However, this style of play absolutely requires playing together and getting used to every player's movement. Also, remember, we have literally playing styles from ALL over the globe. This team will be a challenge, but consider our huge improvement from Mexico/USA already.

    Finally, I'm a big MB critic, but I see a big role for him in this very team, folks. He has grit. He would have worked harder than those lazy bums I saw 2nd half.
     
  23. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Yet, we managed no shots on goal in the first half.

    Inexcusable man.

    Why are people being apologists for losing to the B-team of Costa Rica at home?

    I just don't understand where this mentality was when Bob was around. This place is crazy.
     
  24. joe

    joe Member+

    Jul 12, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you're certainly entitled to see what you want to see
     
  25. ctoa23

    ctoa23 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    E&G Forum
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since joining Anderlecht he's looked a lot better. If given more time he would've made an impact tonight, I think. Had a few really solid runs up the middle to open things up.
     

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