Once again, he's not a DP. And once again, you can't judge a player's ability by watching two games where he isn't even match fit. If you follow European soccer at all, take note that Javier Pastore arrived at PSG before Caraglio arrived in New England and he has not played a single minute for them yet because of a lack of match fitness. The revs are just so bad that that they have to throw him out there anyway because it's all we've got. This thread is stupid and pointless.
Hmm the Revs don't agree. http://www.revolutionsoccer.net/news/2011/08/caraglio-becomes-revolution’s-first-dp Matter of fact, neither does Ives? Can everybody be wrong? http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2011/08/new-england-signs-caraglio-as-first-dp.html I don't think this guy could possibly hide his ability for two straight games. You'd think a little of it would shine through... even if he is rusty, out of condition and a tad slow
I think people are arguing that he's a DP on a technicality - transfer fee - and his salary is not DP-level (which may be an indication of his true potential to the club. Or not).
Agreed, too small of a sample size to make any real determination. Also agree with others that he was brought in solely so they could finally say that they got a DP while in reality only his transfer fee qualifies him to meet that label, the expectation was a big salary impact player.
This thread is a joke. What is the point in trying to judge a player after 2 games? I hate the FO too, but it's completely ridiculous to judge a signing after 10 days.
Youre probably right. In which case its just a name (e.g., DP) to keep people happy while he may never be much more than one of the other mediocre Rev players.
Meanwhile LA signs Robbie Keane, showing us what a real DP looks like. We can continue to debate the merits of this bargain basement unproven striker signing wrapped in DP's clothing.
Am I right in recalling that some people here complained when the Revs had the policy that the only type of DP they'd sign was a star like Keane? Then they announced that was no longer the case, and they'd sign a DP based on on-field qualifications. So damned if they do, and damned if they do, right?
Isn't that always going to be the case depending on the person's opinion in the first place? It's not like everyone felt that way, and I'm sure most people continue to feel that way from before. I know I've actually never been big on them bringing in a DP ... now that they have one great, but it doesn't really make that much of a difference to me personally. I'm assuming that's the same for some people that still feel like that there's no need for a Keane level player, and some people who wanted that Keane level player in the first place.
I think people bemoan the signing of players as names and names only, and not for the betterment of the team.
Quality players even if out for long periods of time will show a glimpse of brilliance. He is obviously slow, is no Juan Pablo A. and a continuation of the fraud being perpetrated on those foolish enough(such as myself) to still be spending money for this dog and pony show. Next year my commute will be to Harrison NJ even if only 6-8 games a year. A quality park and a team owned by owners trying to win. I invite you all to join as much as it pains me. The Revs are a team that I wanted to live and die for, but we have all been kicked in the face by an operation that makes apathy sound attractive. I know everyone on this site cares deeply for the Club but when do you say enough is enough? Yours in soccer, Risapres
Well lets look at it this way. He has played 49 games since 2007. What on field qualifications does he have?
I have NEVER rooted for a rival against the Revs. However, because I paid for matchday, I did feel more excited about a few other games this week-end than the Cbus/Revs games. Caraglio, when he was signed, definitely piqued my interest to get excited for games..but honestly, we could have Miroslav Klose..and if you don't get him a ball that he can then work his magic to get a goal, what good does it do to have him? Jury isn't out yet on Milton...I'm sure he needs a bit of time to finally get that he's on a pretty crappy team..he is young! =)
Caraglio is the type of striker who needs a guy running off of him and within 10-15 yards at all times. Schilawksi is clearly not that player. He needs a guy like Dominic Oduro. Or even Feilhaber tucked in right behind him. So--not only is he not fit yet, but Caraglio is being played incorrectly. He is not and can never be a lone striker with the closest supporting players out wide. He doesn't have the wheels to create his own chances from outside of the box (he was having to turn and run at goal FAR too often vs. Crew)--but he has the deft touches to create for others running off of him and looks to have some finishing instinct inside the box. I think his isolation up top says more about Nicol's failing to match a formation to a player than it does about Caraglio.
I think Nicol is forced to play him the way he is because Lekic is not around. We will know a lot more in a week or two. If Nicol continues with his ridiculous 4-3-3 once he comes back then we know he has just lost it and needs to be replaced
Pretty sure it's not a 4-3-3, it's a 4-3-2-1. Remember, a 4-3-2-1 is an attacking formation. Bruce told me so.
Well nobody would ever accuse Twellman of ever being fast but the guy could finish. Near his end, and as the team was in decline, he was not getting the balls he had been getting years earlier and his production dropped. This guy may be able to finish IF we get two forwards AND if they start getting some service. So far, I've seen little to think he can beat people 1v1 and he doesn't look fast so speed is not an asset. So it comes down to finishing. If we somehow can figure out how to use our forwards...maybe we'll start scoring again. I have to say though that I'm not optimistic because this problem started before Twellman got hurt. Benny should be able to generate attacks and is more then adequate in that regard. Joseph is also good at that. The problem comes down to weak outside play AND yet that seems that our main attacking goal... race down the wing and cross it to the middle. Problems is, we don't have people that can really do that very well and that brings us to where we are today. Little attack on the ground and poor attack in the air. All leads up to losing games The only solution I can see is to can Nichol and get somebody in here to rebuild the team into a 2011 model team, not something from the 70's or whenever he played. This isn't working and hasn't been working for a long time. I question if SN is capable of rebuilding a team and seriously question his ability to evaluate players. The only good ones we ever had either were here when he arrived, fell into our laps by accident, or just got lucky (Dempsey). The list of misses is far greater than the list of hits and I have to think his time to go is very near
I have nothing to add besides 'We should wait until he plays, I don't know 200 minutes before judging' except to say that evidently he wants his name pronounced Cuh-rahg-lee-oh
MLSsoccer.com had this to say in this weeks power rankings: "Milton Caraglio hasn’t scored yet but he looked the part of a center forward who can occupy the defense and bring other attackers into the play. He, Benny Feilhaber, Rajko Lekic, Shalrie Joseph and Stephen McCarthy are a nice core to build around heading into next season. Figuring out what to do with the defense will occupy most of Steve Nicol’s time over the next few months, though." I think it's funny that they criticized our defense, which plays fairly well when Soares and Alston are on the field, then praised a few of our attacking players despite having the weakest offense in the league.
Well at least according to the numbers, the only team's that have given up as many goals per game as we have are the two expansion teams and TFC. Of course no one has scored fewer gpg than we have. But other than that, we're awesome!