Ecuador en Copa America 2011- Argentina

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by damnecuadorian, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. damnecuadorian

    Mar 11, 2007
    SF & NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Four quarterfinals, four upsets. Holy shit.
     
  2. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm honestly gonna say either Peru or Venezuela win this cup. Unless of course i just jinxed them by saying that.
     
  3. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  4. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Hopefully Venezuela does and makes chiriboga realize we are falling behind.
     
  5. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Coco Basile is a candidate to coach Ecuador?!
     
  6. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    Paraguay has made it to the semifinals without winning a match.
     
  7. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    :eek:
     
  8. gymclasshero

    gymclasshero Member

    Aug 25, 2008
    KCMO
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    See, Rueda is so right. Who needs wins when you can tie your way to a title and perhaps a world cup.

    *sarcasm alert*
     
  9. damnecuadorian

    Mar 11, 2007
    SF & NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    And Venezuela has made it to the semifinals without losing a match.
     
  10. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    I think it just underlines the whole point about good coaching. Venezuela has caught up in many ways, but they don't have the best individual players or football in general. There is never a game where they dominate possession against another South American team.

    However, they know their strengths and weaknesses, and they play to them. They have a pretty good defense, and in attack they have Arango's left foot. They defend, counter, and wait for set pieces to get players up the field. They play a very smart, organized and efficient game. Kudos to Farias for a job well done with that team.
     
  11. damnecuadorian

    Mar 11, 2007
    SF & NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQVv7IHQv7I"]‪Publicidad Coca Cola Infiltrado Ecuador Copa América 2011‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     
  12. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    I'm watching this semifinal between Par-Ven and it's hard to believe we couldn't do anything to either of these poor teams.

    Regardless of their Copa performance, neither of these teams have the quality to do well in the WC qualifiers. A short tournament is different because you just have to play one or two games well. This is the worst Paraguay in years. And Venezuela is getting results but still lacks individual talent.
     
  13. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Paraguay still holds it down with their defense. That's actually what this whole tournament has been about, especially when it comes to Paraguay. On Venezuela's part, they have effective forwards and their defense does pretty well. Remember the game vs. Chile? Venezuela had 2 opportunities which were off free-kicks. And they scored on both opportunities. Chile dismantled Venezuela the entire game. Same with Brazil vs. Paraguay. Brazil had them on lock with nothing but like 1 shot on goal for Paraguay ALL game.

    Sound similar? didn't we manage to dominate a handful of teams in the last qualifier and still not get results? So IMO, Venezuela is not playing poorly. They're effective and in the end that's all that matters. Whether or not they have more possession than their opponents, they still manage to get results. In this qualifier, if Venezuela plays the way they are playing right now, their ticket to Brazil is won. For Paraguay it's different, they defend but if Santacruz or Haedo aren't having a good day then they're screwed. B/c no one's gonna net one in for them. In Venezuela you see Vizcarondo. Rondon, Fedor, and Arango scoring. last qualifier Maldonado scored a handful too. So they make it work out either way. In these type of tournaments, your right, Paraguay can get lucky and reach a final by straight up tying. But if they continue this style of playing they'll hit harsh reality in the Qualifier and it will hit them hard. They're playing "a lo Rueda"- puro empate.
     
  14. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    no talent?

    ver a rincon - ausente hoy
    rosales o gonzalez

    fedor o salomon son tipos que hay que respetar en cualquier cancha o esquema tactico. es una realidad, que no queremos ver en conmebol:cool:
     
  15. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    You guys want Martino? Please take him, at this point I rather have Rueda.
     
  16. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    if only you knew what you were saying. your talking about the same guy that took Paraguay to a quarterfinal of a WC
     
  17. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    Paraguay's going through a generational transition like many other teams. But unlike Chile or Uruguay, they haven't produced young new stars to replace the guys who are getting older, or who got shot in the head, or both. Haedo Valdez and Lucas Barrios are good, but they don't have the physical presence or consistency of Cabanas or Santa Cruz. I personally foresee Paraguay having a tougher time qualifying this time around. Remember the last half of qualifying matches, they were not doing good at all, but they started off so well that they were almost qualified halfway through. They have been incredibly lucky the past 2 games, Venezuela hit the post twice in the last half of overtime, and if the game lasted 10 more minutes Venezuela would have won it.

    Venezuela on the other hand, still benefits from being perceived as the underdog. It puts a lot of pressure on their opponents to win. I think we used to benefit from that a few years ago. They have some pretty good players, but they do not have any standout performers. Their coach deserves a lot of credit because they play to their strengths, defense and long passes to their forwards.
     
  18. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I think that Venezuela should have won the game last night. They hit the post twice in the first overtime and Villar had some nice saves. I agree with Manolo that had the game lasted another ten minutes Venezuela would have pulled it out. Paraguay has been the recipient of some good luck, in both games against Brazil and Venezuela they were the inferior team IMO, but Villar and some good luck and kept the score leveled. Qualifying for Brazil is gonna be a b*tch for every team. At this point Peru, Venezuela, and Colombia are contenders. And to be honest we're probably only ahead of Bolivia of all SA teams.

    All I know is that if Ecuador wants to qualify we have to win at home and make use of playing 2000+ meters above sea level.
     
  19. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I see the bottom 4 in this order:

    Paraguay
    Argentina
    Ecuador
    Bolivia

    Everyone else is ahead of us. I'll even go as far as saying Uruguay and Chile will lead this Qualifier. And out of Venezuela, Peru, and Colombia one of them at least, will surprise being in the top 3 spots.
     
  20. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Uruguay is the best team in SA right now IMO. Top 5 in the whole world.
     
  21. ecuaboy12

    ecuaboy12 Member

    May 18, 2005
    Lehigh Acres FL
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    switch Bolivia and Ecuador up ;)
     
  22. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    gracias a un proceso que solo conoce dos entrenadores en 10 temporadas!!!

    richard paez y cesar farias

    PROCESOS...PARECEN GANAR de cualquier manera
    ver fracaso argentino y resultados de tabarez en 5 an`os o del tata martino en otros tantos.
     
  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Brazil is going to lack the real practice of the quals, and may get to the Cup in their home completely below their standards.
     
  24. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Congrats to Uruguay... anyways you guys can forget the World Cup 2014. I am certain that Ecuador will not make it. We are one of the worse teams in SA only better than Bolivia. All other countries have better team/management/coaching than us. I have zero hope of Ecuador winning anything anytime soon with Rueda and Chiriboga. Until they are out of FEF and get a brand new management and a top notch DT we aren't going anywhere.
     
  25. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    See what I meant? Both Venezuela and Paraguay got their a$$es handed to them when they didn't have the luxury of being huge underdogs. They are both crap teams and will not qualify, along with us and Bolivia.
     

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