Start from scratch. Thank God we got really good talent coming out of the U20 and U17. Although I hate the coach and blame him for the majority of the poor play in Copa America, these players we have aren't going to be successful on the NT. They seem to run slow as fu** and aren't really that talented. We gotta keep working with the youth so hopefully in the future we can get back to the level of 2006 and more. If we get a good coach that is good with the youth and older players would be a plus and be very successful for Ecuador. As for that coach I don't know or care who it is as long as it isn't Rueda anymore. I cannot wait till we find someone else ASAP. Now all we have to look forward to is the U20 World Cup. The level of soccer from Ecuador in the world (League and NT) has drop so much I really don't look forward to it at all right now. I'm betting all my chips on the youth now cause the current players are shit.
Entertaining game. Defense had some bad moments and a couple of good plays from Ecuador. Why wasn't there any timely subs??? Rueda has to go......
Jugamos como nunca y perdimos como siempre.... definitely need to get our team ready for qualifiers: Valencia, Guerron, Montero, Rojas, MJ Quinonez, Chivo Suarez...
I have one question to those who know Rueda.. Is he nationalized Honduran? Because the ecuadorian press is starting this shit, de rumores que lo ubican como uno de los principales candidatos para reemplazar al técnico "colombiano/hondureño" Reinaldo Rueda colombiano/hondureño???? LOL...LOL...LOL..LOL...
The youth looks good but the talent of our NT is there. Probably some of the best talent we ever had. The biggest problem is we need some who can get more out of them collectively, able to manage the egos and the individuality each player wants to show case. Plus we can't play this counter attack style we can win if we go back to an attacking style. Soo disappointing yet predictable.....
Rueda resigns to save face and we oust Chriboga. Horrible game by Araujo and Elizaga. Benitez didn't do much, didn't really get the ball in prime position to be fair and was playing farther back of were he usually plays. Arroyo went MIA in the second half. Oh did anybody spot Minda on the pitch, he was listed on the line up but I couldn't find him on the field. Reasco was too slow to handle his man and the same goes for Ayovi, but at least Ayovi created some plays. Rueda took too long to make changes. I though he should have taken Reasco and Minda out 10-15 minutes into the second half. The best way to put the state of the team is as follows: Ecuador is headed by a coach who does not know the soccer of the country he coaches nor does he know the players and what are their strengths and weaknesses. The tactical system he endorses is extremely defensive and lacks any creativity or flair. There are players on the team who are past their cycle and should not be on the team. To make matters worse the FEF is a corrupt organization that should be dismantled.
If you say we got enough talent in Ecuador NT. Who? I love Valencia but he hasn't played the same since his injury and I doubt he ever will. Benitez? Have you seen him try to score? Guerron? He is getting fined left and right for stupid stuff he does. Naboa? He sucked today and hasn't played wall. Also way too slow! Caicedo at least has improved a lot and IMO he is the best player on the NT now. Other than that who else?
is anyone listening to Cre Satelital??? OMG. Same shit from Rueda. vamos a mejorar... we are improving.blah..blah..blah..he's been saying that shit for the last 10 months..
Ecuador has the talent to compete...we got Erazo and Morante on defense, I think they have potential. Arroyo has played well with the NT. We still got Montero, Valencia, and Caicedo. Ecuador has talent coming through the youth ranks as well. Sometimes the most talented teams don't always win, it is better to have good team chemistry and a collective balance than to have a team full of superstars who are out for themselves and are not used optimally by the coach.
all I know is Ayovi and Reasco cannot play a 90 min game where we are forced to attack and get a winning result. Did you guys see how Beniyez had to cover ayovi and arroyo had to do the same for Reasco when we'd get counter attacked? No wonder Ruedas teams never attack. B/c when they do total disorganization occurs within each line.
nooooooooooooo Rueda is staying. Video of Chirimoyas confirming it. http://teradeportes.com/newsv2.php?id_noticia=40714 f*ck f*ck f*ck!!!!!!!!!!
It's so funny to read some of the complaints about Rueda... Apparently he's still hasn't learned to make timely subs .... Damn, that used to drive me crazy
Listen people. I love Ecuador and all, but the truth is that our team sucks. We can blame the coach and that SOB Chiriboga (who I think is the true a-hole in all of this), but our players have NO talent. Seriously. I find it funny when people say that Ecuador has got talent. Please! Our strikers can't even kick the ball any where close to the goal. When they in-bound the ball, the in-bounding player passes it to the player that has two or three defenders on him and misses the guy that is wide open. When a striker eludes a defender, he tries to elude the second and third defender without passing it to the open man. It's like he wants to be a damn hero. Our defenders think that kicking the ball three stories up in the air is good defense. I can go on and on. We have a freakin' amateur team on our hands here fellas!
Dude, we have talent, and yes, it is the coach's fault...it's always his fault. He is accountable ALWAYS for our players. As for the 11 on the field, we saw a team that had definite glimmers of their true potential, and yet we still faltered. There are guys on the seleccion that don't belong, but today was one of those days when the old guys did stand out, and imo, they shut up Chiriroba. Chiriboga didn't want to fork over the money that was appropriate to hire one of the bigger name coaches that were available and he went frugal with Rueda and his staff....He also had the lack of judgement to listen to everyone when they said to start hiring the coach earlier than last summer to man the helm for more time with our guys. Rueda can't line up a team that at one point made Brazil look like scrubs, and now we've got a team that is made to look like scrubs by even sub-22 Mexico. PLEASE!!!! Our guys need a coach with personality, presence, and charisma that can surpass the plateau....that's the mark of a good coach.
Yeah I agree it's not just problems with coaching but all the way from FEF president to the players themselves. They lack speed, intelligence in the midfield to create attacking options, a good golie, and forwards that can score consistently on their leagues and on the NT. Like I said our talent is not there anymore and all we have to look forward is the youth from U17-U20. Hoping and praying that we they actually turn into good players.
i don't think Mendez, Reasco, Elizaga, Araujo, Ayovi, Noboa, Castillo, or Valencia can be labeled as amateurs. Most of them have already played a world cup (besides Araujo and Ayovi) and at least 1 qualifier. In Mendez and even Reasco case- 2 or 3 qualifiers by now. So in no way are they amateurs. The amateur here is Rueda playing with 4 forwards in a game vs. none other than Brazil when the main problem was the huge amount of space that was left in the midfield and in our right back and left back positions. when reasco and ayovi were counter attacked on their sides, benitez turned into a left back and Arroyo into a right back while reasco and ayovi were on the other side of the field with their tongues out. I've only seen sh*t like that happen since Rueda has been coach. That's an amateur move.
I am sorry, but most of you are in denial. If we actually had talent, we would have won at least ONE FREAKIN' GAME this year. The numbers do not lie. Talent would have pulled off one win sometime during the year. ONE WIN! What else needs to happen in order for you guys to admit that our players are simply not that good? Valencia may be playing on ManU, but that is not enough. The team Ecuador fielded for this Copa America looked so much more inferior to the other teams that it is down right frightening.