The timing of an announcement for the COSMOS

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  1. Luis_Rancagua

    Luis_Rancagua Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Guys, would it be more obvious that if the COSMOS want to become the 20th franchise in MLS, an announcement would be made already by now or during this summer. It's all about the timing and the construction of the stadium.
     
  2. KingsCountyFC

    KingsCountyFC Member

    Nov 6, 2007
    BK - NY / Louisiana
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The summer is not over.
    I would be looking at the fact that Citifield is being tested as a viable alternative to play while a stadium is built.

    Looks like Juve is going to be playing Club American at Citifield too.
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...b-américa-citi-field-world-football-challenge

    There is simply NO WAY, they can build their own stadium and be playing in it by 2013...but I don't think that will stop an announcement, considering they have finally found a temp stadium solution.
     
  3. napolisoccer

    napolisoccer Member

    NYCFC - Napoli
    Feb 20, 2005
    Napoli
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    26th or 27th July ?
     
  4. Luis_Rancagua

    Luis_Rancagua Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Napoli, how do you justify these dates???? Why do you think the announcement will be made on the 26th or 27th of July???
     
  5. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    July 27 is the MLS All-Star Game, hosted by New York's MLS team.

    Considering how much MLS brass love crapping on the Red Bulls, it's not completely out of the question.

    I don't think they'll have everything in place by then to make an announcement, but if the Mets commit to having a MLS team at Citi Field, then it could happen.
     
  6. KingsCountyFC

    KingsCountyFC Member

    Nov 6, 2007
    BK - NY / Louisiana
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we keep hearing, IF anything is going to be announced..it's going to be around the all-star game.
     
  7. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    All things around here have been sounding off that it's going to be CitiField as temp stadium and the ASG as the announcement date. It's perfect karma to start a rivarly!
     
  8. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ive Heard All Star Game as far back as Feb

    I also heard maybe MLS CUp

    Either way - IF THIS happens - by years end I think there will be an announcement.


    Lets just keep em crossed though. Nothing is official yet -
     
  9. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This All-Star game announcement will be as big as the February announcement. Stay tuned.
     
  10. Woodside Mets

    Woodside Mets Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Woodside Queens NYC
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    don't get all bitter now :D
     
  11. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would the Mets be on board with such an arrangement?
     
  12. KingsCountyFC

    KingsCountyFC Member

    Nov 6, 2007
    BK - NY / Louisiana
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ummmm....money.

    they don't have it.
    they cosmos pay rent.

    Not sure how that doesn't make sense.
     
  13. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don't think there are any pending or planned announcements for an expansions side in the works at all ..... chatting with Garber he was very clear that no (from any city) 'bid' is anywhere close to being final or complete and he went far enough as to say that if somebody got their shit together before NYC2 they would join MLS before NYC2.
     
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  14. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The Mets are looking to build in the area. Appeasing the local soccr gods will get then an in with the community and govt.

    The willets point fight isnt going to be an easy one and thats where they want to be. Stay tuned its going to get better and better.
     
  15. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It makes sense to have a stadium in Flushing, particularly where the chop shops are. But when the Jets were playing at Shea, the Mets as primary tenant forced them on the road to begin the season for most of their time there. And Shea was built as a multi use park. Citifield is a baseball specific park. Sure, they can host some one offs but it is not ideal and it does damage MLB's visual product, as it did when the Nats and DC United shared RFK. Since MLB is the big power in the equation what they say goes.

    I also don't think the theory about the Mets doing this for monetary reasons is a valid one. Having a full time summer tenant completely negates the reason why Citifield was built to begin with.
     
  16. fifty7

    fifty7 Member

    Oct 27, 2010
    Long Island
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is the speculation on Citi and 2013 coming from anyone but fellow NYC expansion supporters, be they fans or bloggers? Like, who exactly do we "keep hearing" about Citi from?

    I'm nervous, I don't wanna get my hopes up on just baseless rumor.
     
  17. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Times have changed. Baseball is dying and soccer is rising. Surely the Wilpons are aware of this and are willing to compromise for now to get in on the ground floor.

    Say what you will but this is what's going to happen.
     
  18. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So does this mean that (if the Cosmos materialize in Citi Field), we will be stuck with a lot of midweek games? Or should we hope for a well-planned weekend schedule when the Mets are away? So far, the two Citi Field soccer games are/will be on Tuesdays. They are statistically less attended than Thursday-Sunday games. I would hope for a perfect first season, not a handicapped one.
     
  19. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is the turnover time (and cost) of converting the baseball diamond to a soccer pitch, and then back again? It has to be a couple of days, and a lot of overtime.

    I could see them doing the switching only if they have 2 or more MLS games back to back, on a long Mets road trip. They would be lucky if they could squeeze as many as 12 of the 18 home games that way. The other 6 could be played you know where. The fans might go for that since the majority of games would be at Citi, and this would only be temp while an SSS is being built.
     
  20. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    1. It's not MLB's decision how citifield gets used, it's the MEts' decision.

    2. When they proposed building Citifield, the Mets had money. They lost a lot unexpectedly after it was built.

    If you don't see how the world changed and how the Mets specific situation changed over that period, I don't know what to tell you.
     
  21. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    When you are going to make money, you will bring the best and fastest grounds people in the area to make sure that the field is the way it should be for the event you are going to put on.

    It's really not that difficult.
     
  22. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure how long it takes, but Fenway hosted a one-off game last year. Sure that was a special event and probably had much higher ticket prices and revenue than the Cosmos will, but I don't think they need multiple games in order to pull it off. Either way, I am sure the Cosmos will be prepared to have a much higher operating cost while in Citi Field.
    What are the odds of this even happening? I don't know, but I would love it. Finally a true New York club that hopefully won't suck forever and people in NYC will actually know they exist!
     
  23. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What makes you think that the guys at Citifield aren't the best in the business to begin with?
     
  24. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can understand that leading to more one offs and concerts during road trips and maybe a winter classic (I assume the Islanders would be the home team). But another full time summer tenant? I just can't see them going for that.

    Honestly, Hofstra or Ichan is probably your best option as they are both open, available and historic to the brand.
     
  25. Ed NYC Firm

    Ed NYC Firm Member

    May 14, 2000
    NY
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    At 5K total seats, Ichan is not an option.
     

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