Team News Discussion Thread Vol. III [R]

Discussion in 'Bayern Munich' started by ForeverRed, Jan 17, 2011.

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  1. albert_mk87

    albert_mk87 Member+

    Aug 27, 2008
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    tymo today made many mistakes he need to go back playing DMC.In my opinion Badstuber was great this 3 games he didn't make any mistakes he was always in the right place and he didn't lose the ball or made wrong passes like tymo did this game
     
  2. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yup. Tymo is one of our best passers and one of the most experienced squad members. It adds confidence to an already frail and inexperienced backline. He has his shaky moments of course but overall he has been good in the position.

    Has anyone noticed that we actually build from the back this season as opposed to last year?
     
  3. GarmischaBua

    GarmischaBua Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Ehh.. I agree that his experience is valuable, but he almost seems the least confident of our back four. He always looks like he desperately wants to return to midfield. But if louis feels Breno isn't ready, we don't exactly have too much choice.

    I also feel like we are forced to build up from the back this season because of how weak our CM pairings have been. No penetration or cohesive movement.

    Tymo's solidity in defense has diminished a bit in the last few games, imo.
     
  4. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He has a different role than Badstuber. It's clear form his on field movement that he is asked to be the more proactive of the two center backs. I admit that he can and has looked nervy at times but I think considering he is not a natural CB and is playing in a makeshift team we can excuse that. He does contribute the most to our defensive build up and makes some excellently timed tackles.

    Even earlier in the season when Van Bommel and Schweinsteiger were playing in the center we saw the same with Badstuber. It's still very much the case of, if one player or one aspect of our game doesn't work it has a domino effect on the rest of the team but I guess that is to be expected amongst so many changes and adjustments.
     
  5. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    What am I missing here??

    If I'm not mistaken, Nuri Sahin made his Bundesliga debut at 16.

    It was about a month before he turned 17.

    Has the rule changed since then or did we have to get some sort of "special permission?"

    I was doing translations for BVB back then and I don't remember the club getting any sort of permission for Sahin to play.

    Maybe they did and I just don't remember it. But I really don't recall that.
     
  6. cwcoach18

    cwcoach18 Member+

    Apr 1, 2009
    Club:
    SV Waldhof Mannheim
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    To get a playing license it says:

    Vollendung des 18. Lebensjahr. Since some players play before they actually turn 18 I guess it means that they have to turn 18 during the season.

    I remember from when I played that the "Stichtag" was always in the middle of the year rather than 01.01.xxxx since the season starts in August.
     
  7. schwas

    schwas Member

    Jul 3, 2009
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Exactly why im hoping the Pranjic-Ottl partnership is dissolved by the time we get to Inter. Kross and Ribery wont be back by then (not for the first game any way), so Im hoping LVG will change few things. An Ottl-Pranjic partnership may work against the weaker sides, but you arent going to get away with it against a top class team like Inter. Its not like we are out of options there.
     
  8. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    None of your busines
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    My point is the reason.. build up play? The guy is the best passer out of our defenders.
     
  9. cwcoach18

    cwcoach18 Member+

    Apr 1, 2009
    Club:
    SV Waldhof Mannheim
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Would you rather have them say:

    "We f@cked up and wasted 12M on him."

    How do you learn how to build up play? Practice is nice, but he really needs time on the field to learn it during a game.

    That however means making mistakes and we can't afford that. Badstuber is ahead of him because of Breno's injury and the fact that he played in Bayern II while Breno was riding the bench.
     
  10. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    None of your busines
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He should of stated positional awareness, or easily pulls up when there is a midfielder/striker pulling towards our net.. which opens up a lot of space when he pushes up for other players. I just find the reason as why he's benched his biggest strength and something he's better than both of the ones starting over him.

    Maybe Van Gaal said what he said not to hurt his confidence, so he picked the one good thing he excels at. :p
     
  11. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    I'll take your word for it.
     
  12. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Germany
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    DFB Cup rext round is Schalke vs Bayern (home side)
     
  13. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    None of your busines
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Would have prefered Schalke in the final but good that it's at home.
     
  14. bayernfan86

    bayernfan86 Member

    May 2, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    wonder if there will be any lingering bad blood from the muller-robben altercation. Certainly hope not.
     
  15. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Not me. I don't want those f#ckers making the Europa League.

    Yes, the rivalry is more important to me than who reps Germany in the EL......
     
  16. Matakos

    Matakos Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Macedonia, Greece
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    One of the few times you'll be supporting Bayern I guess:p
     
  17. miasanmia

    miasanmia Member

    Mar 17, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  18. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Most definitely. I'm thinking of going to the match.
     
  19. Matakos

    Matakos Member+

    May 18, 2009
    Macedonia, Greece
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
  20. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    footyfan1 is right. You do NOT need to be 18, or turn 18 during the season, to play Bundesliga, or 3. Liga.

    You do need to be 18 to sign a professional contract. But you do NOT need a professional contract to play Bundesliga or 3. Liga.
     
  21. KyleS8

    KyleS8 Member

    Jun 3, 2008
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I saw a pic of what looked like Robben clocking Müller right in the chops.
     
  22. cwcoach18

    cwcoach18 Member+

    Apr 1, 2009
    Club:
    SV Waldhof Mannheim
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Thanks, I'll rep when I can. Did not know that. What's the purpose of putting an age limit on signing a professional contract then if they can play anyhow?

    Wait, I guess I know that.

    By law you probably have to be 18 to sign any contract since they are minors. Correct?
     
  23. cwcoach18

    cwcoach18 Member+

    Apr 1, 2009
    Club:
    SV Waldhof Mannheim
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Slim to none. They are guys not girls;)
     
  24. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Not entirely - if you are under 18 you can sign a contract with the permission of your parents. However, Bundesliga contracts are standardized and have to follow league rules. I can't say for sure why the league requires players to be at least 18 years old - as youth players (as well as reserve players) still sign contracts with clubs and receive payments (but those are not Bundesliga contracts - it's a bit complicated*). I still suppose it's because they want to avoid certain regulations concerning minors, but that's just a guess.

    For club's there's another practical dimension to this, though - there's a limit on how many non-licensed players a club can field. During the 90s Bayern were awarded a loss because of this, for fielding 4 non-licensed players in a game against Frankfurt:
    http://www.fussballdaten.de/bundesliga/1995/26/frankfurt-bmuenchen/

    * the distinction is:
    - licensend player: a player who signed a standard professional contract with a Bundesliga club, subject to the rules and regulations of the Bundesliga.
    - contracted player: a player who signed a contract and receives payment from any club at any level. Subject to DFB and Bundesliga regulations for contracted players.
    - amateur player: a placer who receives less than 150 Euros/month from a club. Subject to DFB regulations for amateur players.
     
  25. Philipp Lahm

    Philipp Lahm Member+

    Feb 24, 2010
    Russian Federation
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I wish we sold Ribery.:(

    He will never be the same again.
     

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