Blah blah blah. For the practical purposes, Mexico is the same of Japan, the difference is that they're closer.
I guess that you don`t understand what this topic is about. I`ll explain it to you in Spanish as if I explain in to you in English, you will not understand a thing. Here it goes : Este tópico trata sobre equipos de Futbol, no de Selecciones Nacionales Ahora limitándonos solo a equipos : ¿ Cuántos mejicanos han jugado en algún equipo Chileno en toda la historia del futbol en Chile ? (How many mexicans have played someday through out the whole history of Football in Chilean teams ?) Con "cueva"(suerte), y siendo exagerado, 10 (with luck, and exagerating, 10 ) Misma pregunta pero al revés, ¿ Y Chilenos en Mejico ? (Same question the other way around, and Chileans in Mexico ?) Deben ser aproximadamente unos 300 (they must be close to 300) Now if we include players from the other 3 countries, there must be at least 1500 of each one of them, many of which have ended playing in your national team as well. Conclusión : ustedes dependen más de nosotros, que nosotros de ustedes (conclussion : you guys depend more on us, than we on you) Btw, in World cups, where it matters the most, the only time we faced you (1930), we kicked the shit out of your team, 3 to 0.
Yet you were the one who deviated from the original topic in one of your customary rants. So, you're deducing that because only a handful of Mexican players have played in the Chilean league and more than 300 Chileans have played in the Mexican league that "we" need you more than you need "us"? It's a pretty basic concept, the Mexican league pays better than the Chilean league. Even if the teams are similar in quality, the players will choose to go where they can earn more money. Let me ask you this, how many spaniards have played in the Chilean league? I bet you more Chileans have played in Spain than the other way around, does that mean that Spaniards need Chileans more? Again with the faulty logic. That's right but if you have to reference back to 1930 while ignoring more recent results then you're already fighting a losing battle.
Even though my home nation isn't part of CONMEBOL, I agree that MLS teams should be allowed to participate if they're able to maintain or increase the quality of the tournament but not at the expense of Bolivian, Venezuelan, Peruvian, Ecuadorian or Colombian clubs.
this. but i don't see it happening anytime soon because MLS is not at the state of success that mexico has been enjoying.
i think i'll speak for the majority of south americans when i say the Copa Libertadores would loose it's prestige if MLS teams were annual participants. Sorry if i hurt anyones feelings but it's the truth.
^^^ I agree 100% It would be a disgrace if those mediocre teams were allowed into this prestigious tournament. Plus, their fans are ignorant of the game and have no passion or tradition. Let's hope they never enter this tournament.
it's Mexicans with a capital M, have some respect, and there is a huge difference. culture being one, but mainly quality. Mexicans clubs actually contribute to the tournament, both economically and quality.
por lo menos el repechaje de mexico #3 deberia ser vs top MLS spice things up...a bit. Bad thing is the geo distance....travel time in a congested fifa schedule is a pain in the rear end... In case they beat the mexican side.
The question is though do we want our top players to stay home?Why is the Champions league so lucrative that mickey mouse European clubs can come along and buy our best young players?And at a time the old continent is in turmoil while America(our America)is growing quickly.Well there are two reasons 1 we own our own clubs and dont allow mafiosos/dictators own them) and 2 TELEVISION. The reason why the MLS clubs should be allowed in at a preliminary round stage well before the big clubs at first.THe US market would give a huge boost to the Copa Libertadores tv money.The top Brasilian clubs are already competing in terms of turnover with all but the top six or seven in Europe and the big Argentina ones wont be far behind(two years?)Imagine what a huge tv deal would do for the overall standard.What we musnt do however is allow a Euro situation of two or three dominant clubs in every country
Mexican clubs already provide two large markets, Mexico and the U.S. most of the libertadores games seen in the U.S. are seen by Mexicans. there others from other nationalities that watch their home teams, but the numbers are insignificant in comparison. as far as the anglos, they can't even get them to watch their own league.
knowing Blazer, he will fix the game to give prestige to the crappy MLS clubs, and pretend they are good... so no. If they want to participate let them pay off Venezuela like we did... wait, I forgot they don't make enough money for that.
I think allowing MLS teams would be a great idea. The ones hating on MLS have obvously never watched it. And the culture is getting there. Just watch a Seattle Sounders game (who would be playing in the Libertadores this year if allowed)
I think the MLS is growing quickly and nobody needs to buy off Venezuela or anyone else its a matter of good organization.Futbol our variety will be the top sport in the US by 2025 wait and see.This can put the Libertadores in the Champions league bracket.Imagine the cut Nacional and Peñarol could get they could be the Porto and Benfica of the Americas.The MLS would never dominate it as America Latina is now growing at serious levels as the North stagnates.Imagine if we could tell the Europeans to p..s off these players are staying in the Americas.Imagine who would dominate the Asian and growing African market for TV if the best South American players stayed home.Would the Asians want to watch a Messi or Neymar or would they prefer De Jong or Rooney?Think about it
No chance. It's stuck at #6. There's a better chance that MMA will pass it up than it being #1. #1 in the US, are you kidding me? You have no idea how much it's ignored and hated up here. Which is why it would be retarded to let USA teams into this tournament. They won't show the tourney the proper respect. You'll see empty stadiums. Poor coverage. Their specialty FOX channel could show Lib games, but instead they show EPL reruns. Whayt does that say about them? That they are too ignorant to be involved in this grand event.
Why is it stuck at number 6 if average attendances at MLS has passed out the NHL and NBA(www.avoidingthedrop.com/2010/04/14/mls-attendance-the-nba-would-kill-for/ I hear tv ratings arent great but isnt ESPN going to give it better coverage?However these attendance figures suggest that with River/Boca/America/Santos/Flamengo visiting Los Angeles attendances would be big
Are you serious??? Do you realize that the NBA and NHL have 41 home games a year? Almost triple the mml teams. With that many games, of course the avg will be lower. If you give Lakers and Heat fans only 15 chances a year to see their team, they'll fill out the Rose Bowl and Dolphin Stadium. Por favor, che, use tu cerebro. ESPN will not give it better coverage, they won't even air the upcoming USMNT game! Come on, man. ESPN employees Jim Rome and Tony Kornheiser dog that league all the time. Ok, River, Flamengo etc are good draws, but they don't even make up half the field of the tourney. What about J. Aurich? Or Everton? Or Arsenal Sarandi? Even former champion Quito is unknown up here. When you say Colo Colo up here, they think you're talking soda pop.
i think the sport will get there eventually. no doubt. the expansion and the hype surrounding the likely addition of the Cosmos will only add to the popularity. i think that the potential for the bigger teams (particularly those from mexico and brazil) to play here in the United States could definitely be a boon, especially when you consider how seriously us brazilians take the tournament. if you could have a santos or sao paulo playing in texas or new york, i know the crowds will be huge.
But I am useing my brain.The Libertadores woukld be more games for the top teams and with mammoth interest from the Latino community(ever more important)would give another huge boost to the MLS.As Leonidas says Brasilian/Mexican clubs would be big draws in La/New York/Tejas and in Miami River or Boca would fill anywhere