would it be a big problem two lists? i just think that say especially MLS HQ would be more interested in the latter "league only appearances" than all appearances for the team. like i said all of your work is definitely appreciated so don't think the request is a complaint or anything just a "it would be nice to have both if you don't mind terribly" sort of thing.
I always try to separate my stats/lists into all competitions and regular season only. But we won't have to worry about getting to 1,500 regular season players until next season. And even then, there's the case of McKinnley Tennyson, who appeared in a playoff game but never in the regular season. So there will be three different 1,500th players depending on how you look at it.
i would think that regular season/playoffs could be put together as "official MLS" competitions and distinct from USOC/CL/SL etc. but it is your thing i was just curious because i thought it would be kind of cool if the league made a big deal about the 1,500 player. but then i got to thinking they weren't likely to make a big deal about it (if at all) until it was the 1,500 player to play in "MLS" competitions (ie reg season/playoffs). either way i should have known you'd have all the angles covered anyway.
Do you have the player counts by team as well? Of the 9 remaining 96 franchises (counting SJ1 and HOU as one franchise for statistical continuity), it would be interesting to see how many different players each of those teams have played over the years. Just to see what the spread is. I would think that teams with extended periods of suck or larger number of coaching changes would use more players than more stable and successful franchises.
Through 2009: 218-NY 185-COL 178-NE 172-DC 164-CLB 158-LA 149-SJ 148-DAL 134-KC 132-CHI 83-CHV 83-RSL 81-TB 70-MIA 64-TOR 49-HOU 26-SEA If you take SJ 1996-2005 and combine that with HOU 2006-09, then it's 143.
Interesting stats. Of the 8 teams who have played every season, Kansas City has used the fewest players. Does that mean they've been the most successful at finding the right players, or that they keep the dead wood longer than anyone else? It's pretty obvious why Team Turmoil leads the list.
that is an interesting question. who officially lays claim to the "old" earthquakes history? does MLS recognize the new earthquakes as the extension of the old earthquakes (titles/cups/players/stats/etc) and houston as a new team with no history or vice versa? i've never really seen anything official either way but surely they must have made some determination.
Houston has two stars on their jersey, and San Jose has two stars on theirs. If Houston got the old Quakes history I believe they would have four, and the current Quakes none. And the San Jose page seems clear that they claim the original Clash/Quake history.
okay. that makes more sense anyway. houston got the players, quakes get the history. not entirely sure who made out better ... maybe a draw.
SJ2 officially kept the history and records of SJ1. But for statistical comparisons it's fair - and frankly, makes more sense, to treat SJ1/HOU as one franchise and SJ2 as a second one. I don't see any problem with SJE wearing the stars of the earlier franchise and embracing their civic history. But for statistical analysis, they are separate teams that went through separate birthings and growth processes. Now, in a 100 years, it'll probably come out in the wash, but - especially given the 4 championships - it's hard to ignore what the SJ1/HOU franchise has accomplished on the field. Yeah, DC United is the only team to wear four stars, but they're not the only coherent collection of players and coaches to win four stars. I'm not asking to rewrite the history of the league, I just want to make sure we don't whitewash it, either. My own relocated Carolina Hurricanes keep two sets of records in the Media guide: "Carolina Hurricanes" and "Franchise". The "Franchise" records include the NHL Whalers. They also have a couple of summary pages covering the WHA Whalers. There's a lot of emotion involved in relocated teams. I think Johnny Unitas demanded that none of his records appear in the Indianapolis Colts media guides at one point. I'm not sure whether the Baltimore Ravens (a better parallel to the Dynamo) track their Cleveland Browns forebears, but I'm pretty sure the current Cleveland Browns do.
Same deal as San Jose. Baltimore was 'tehnically' in their 4th or 5th year when they won the Super Bowl. The Browns returned in 1999 and kept all the old Cleveland Browns history, despite obviously being a different organization. San Jose is to Cleveland as Houston is to Baltimore.
Pretty impressive week for Texans Soccer Club. Keep them coming. "Dynamo goalkeeper Tyler Deric, who played his youth soccer with the Texans recorded a shutout in his MLS debut to help the Dynamo beat the San Jose Earthquakes 1-0." "Stuart Holden and Brek Shea who both played for the Texans Soccer Club in Houston were in the starting 11 vs Columbia on October 12."
Actually, the thing to watch for next year will be the 10,000th goal scored by an MLS team. We were at 8,804 entering this season, so sometime in 2011...
You figure MLS teams will score 1,200 goals between now and the end of 2011? EDIT: I just re-read and saw you wrote that we were at 8,804 at the start of the season. Where are we now?
Just some quick addition, so might not be spot on, but I got 9,361 (557 this year). If we're counting playoffs, there are 20 games left, so getting to 600 goals on the season is in reach, which in turn means that 10,000 would be just within reach with a similar season next year. I'll say it now: 10,000th goal comes in MLS Cup 2011 EDIT: 21 games left this year counting the Crew's CCL match