Goalkeepers

Discussion in 'Ecuador' started by MrSoloDolo, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I saw the game between Mexico vs Ecuador when Banguera was the goalkeeper. He had a good game that day. He blocked a couple of shots and was solid throughout the whole game. He had nothing to do on the goal that was scored on him because it was a rebound of the defender of D. Quito Luis Checa. The game against Venezuela I did not see it. So I cannot talk anything about it. All I know is that Banguera got hurt on that game. I hope that Reinaldo Rueda tries other goalkeepers now when he has the chance not in the future when it could be too late.
     
  2. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    The question right now is who does Rueda call up for the friendlies against Colombia and Poland? I would sure like to see Elizaga play the games especially since I'm planning on going to the Colombia match, but Rueda said he is not going to call up any players from Emelec, f*cking scheduling conflicts, I know I've said this a million times but I want to see Morante make his debut!! I also want to see more of Ayovi, Rojas and P. Quinonez too. Anyways, since Elizaga is not an option, and since Banguera left injured in their last game against Cuenca, I'm pretty sure Rueda will not give him a call up especially after the Geovanny Nazareno debacle. I don't want to see Aragon anywhere near the NT unless he shows dramatic improvement. He's benched anyways, the kid Cabezas took over his spot. I believe he should get a call up. I doubt Dominguez will get a call up too, he hasn't started in three games in a row already. I really have no idea who is gonna get the call up. If I were to guess it would be Cevallos and Cabezas/Banguera/maybe even Mora, Banguera getting the call up if his injury is not serious.
     
  3. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I don't remember seeing Banguera leave the field yesterday, when did it happen? It might have been when i lost signal.

    On the other hand there isn't gonna be any Emelec players, I'm not too sure if Liga players will even be on this list b/c we're both starting our round of 16 finals in the Sudamericana real soon. The following are a list of players who I'd be glad for Rueda to test out:

    Banguera
    Alexander Dominguez/Danny Cabezas

    Jairo Campos
    Jefferson Hurtado
    Jorge Guagua
    Jose Luis Perlaza
    Giovanni Nazareno
    Juan Carlos Paredes
    Walter Ayovi
    Miguel Ibarra

    Cristian Noboa
    Segundo Castillo
    Dario Bone/Luis Saritama
    Michael Arroyo
    Juan Cazares
    Fernando Guerrero
    Michael Jackson Quinonez


    Jefferson Montero
    Cristian Benitez
    Marlon De Jesus
    Felipe Caicedo


    Cristian Suarez will be there instead of Marlon or Caicedo, I can almost assure everyone here. He just seems like one of those players that will end up irritating me more than Benitez used to, I hope Marlon gets his chance over Suarez b/c we need strikers not supporting strikers.
     
  4. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
     
  5. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
     
  6. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Ibarra has muscle spasms.
     
  7. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    What about Guerrón? Has he been chosen for this game?
     
  8. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Ladic... I could careless who becomes the goalkeeper of the National Team. My thing is to forget that compadrismo that exist in Ecuador and place the best player on the field. Have you seen A. Bone 21 in Espoli? Granted that he is in a bad team but he is definitely a good goalkeeper. If given the chance, he is better than Banguera for the National Team. I cannot understand why people think that Banguera 25 is a top goalkeeper in Ecuador. He is not. He is a mediocre goalkeeper like the rest. So therefore, the rest also deserve a shot. Banguera does not match to the level of Elizaga 38 and Cevallos 38 at this moment. The reason that I do not want these two goalkeepers to be for the National Team is because they are getting older and others should be given the chance to step up. Viteri 29, if given a chance, he could rise up as a better goalkeeper for Barcelona and/or the National Team. I hope that Barcelona let him go so Viteri could become the next goalkeeper of Barcelona. Mora has the experience and he is only 31 years old. Granted that D. Beckham scored on him but what can you do when the referee gave England that foul. How about D. Lanza 27, Diego Cabezas 25, F. Caicedo 30, Klimowics 32? Dominguez 22 needs to improve a lot. If Ecuador want to qualify for the next World Cup, Rueda has to forget about all the nonsense that exist over there and give a chance to all the goalkeepers not to focus on only one. To your answer if I watch the games of Campeonato Nacional, I might not watch them all but I watch at least 2 or 3 a week or whenever they play.
     
  9. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Viteri is one of the worst keepers Ecuador has ever seen...that means something coming from a country where GK's are mediocre by and large...I am not the biggest fan of Banguera because i agree that he is not as good as Barcelonista's make him out to be, but he is definitely better than Viteri. I will say this about him tho, with experience he can be a solid Gk, he has to mature and not be afraid on the field...it seems to me that he is nervous half the time and that plays out in his play because it seems he doesn't want to screw up which might explain why he always get caught in between in a corner or when someone crosses a ball into the box. He has all the qualities to be a solid Gk, on pure athleticism, not even Elizaga or Cevallos match up. The guy is tall and jumps like a cat on caffeine. Granted that is not enough, but he is still young and has time on his side. Its way to early to give up on him.

    As for Klimowics, unless Elizaga suffers some freak injury tomorrow and his recovery time is 5 years, Kliminowics is not starting in place of him. I cant really say anything about Bone cuz i haven't really seen him play. As for Dominguez,-impressive physical qualities but he has to stop that rebote crap. Mora has experience, I'll give you that but he too is mediocre. I don't know about you guys but I sure as hell don't want a mediocre keeper leading the team on the field to face the relentless attack of a Brazil, Chile or Argentina. As for Mora in the WC, well lets just say he was a lucky son of a g*n. He probably set a record for many times an opponents shot hit the crossbar.

    A guys who is intriguing is Cabezas.
     
  10. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Mora SUCKS!! And this is coming from a Liga fan. Mora is probably one of the worst keepers in the league this season and makes the ugliest mistakes I've ever seen. Lanza isn't an option and neither is Francisco Caicedo (who btw is fat and sucks). Klimo lives on the bench and he won't get any playing time as long as Elizaga is in Emelec.

    Back to Banguera...he's a good keeper. Barcelonistas do overrate him but who cares? he's still one of the top 3 keepers in the country whether you accept it or not. The question is Has Banguera done bad when playing for the NT? NO, not at all. So until now, nobody can talk crap about him being a bad keeper. Dominguez, just as Banguera has his faults. Dominguez with the rebotes. Banguera, when it's time to clear a center. We gotta work with what we got. I mentioned Adrian Bone earlier this season and he's done well. And recently Danny Cabezas came in the picture (who i didn't even know of) and seems like someone with lots of potential too. We just gotta work with what we have, it's not as bad as people are making it to be.


    VITERI??!? hahahaha, can somebody please tell this guy who Daniel Viteri is!? if Mora is awful, this guy should have never set foot in any futbol institution in his life. He's short, has no reflexes, and he never gets playing time...anything good about that? Banguera is probably the GOD OF KEEPERS next to him.
     
  11. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    If you guys are convinced that Banguera is a top goalkeeper for Ecuador, fine with you. As for me, he is not ready to be the #1, #2 or #3 goalkeeper for the National Team. I hope Rueda is studying this very carefully so that he does not lament it in the future. If Elizaga is playing for Emelec for another year, then he should be able to play for the National Team until then. In the meantime, Rueda could be looking for somebody to replace him.
     
  12. LDU4ever

    LDU4ever Moderator
    Staff Member

    Liga de Quito
    Ecuador
    Nov 21, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Elizaga will be our number one until he retires or his body starts showing obvious signs of slowing down. For now, It should be Elizaga, Banguera, and Dominguez.
     
  13. gymclasshero

    gymclasshero Member

    Aug 25, 2008
    KCMO
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMsGmtDshDw&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - U. Católica 2 - Liga de Quito 1. Campeonato Ecuatoriano 2010.[/ame]

    That's Christian Mora at its best.
     
  14. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    It's not that ppl are convinced about Banguera...I think we all agree that the guy has some flaws, that being said, when your choices for a game are Banguera, Dominguez, Aragon, Mora, Lanza the majority of ppl are gonna go with Banguera, with Dominguez a close second. Never mind that Viteri sucks, he barely plays at Barcelona. Aragon has been benched in favor of Cabezas. Mora and Lanza are mediocre at best.
     
  15. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador

    lol i was about to post that to show siempreazul how great mora is. i'll upload some of viteri's greatest moments/highlights too along with francisco caicedo's haha that's probably the IBARRADA of the week

    on another note, that second goal catolica scored pissed me off. 5 defenders couldn't go and cover one guy. that was the stupidest game of the year we had.
     
  16. The Machine

    The Machine Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    It happens...the players decide to fill up on sex and booze the night before...hahaha...the key is not making it a habit
     
  17. mac-0n3

    mac-0n3 Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    Toronto,Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  18. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Damián Lanza was blocking everything that was coming to him vs Emelec. Except for the header of Menendez, Lanza was solid.
     
  19. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I am still convinced that we should not be satisfied with Banguera as the goalkeeper for the National Team. In the National Team, he has a better defense than what he has in Barcelona and he feels more confident. Profesor Rueda at this point, should give A Bone a chance to perform vs Poland no matter what is the result. This is the time that Ecuador needs to be trying new players in different positions. A Bone is a young goalkeeper and needs all the experience that he could get.
     
  20. MrSoloDolo

    MrSoloDolo Member

    Aug 2, 2009
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    just confirmed from Ecuafutbol, Banguera is starting; disappointed, I haven't seen much of Bone to judge, but i agree, we need to try out new people
     
  21. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I don't really see what's wrong with banguera. he's been doing an excellent job from what I've seen. Bone is less ready than Dominguez to be on the NT. I'm happy with Banguera
     
  22. Ladic

    Ladic Member

    Jul 19, 2005
    Guayaquil
    Banguera had a solid first half
     
  23. siempreazul

    siempreazul Member

    Jul 7, 2009
    Queens, New York
    Club:
    Emelec Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I am not saying that he is a bad goalkeeper but at times in Barcelona he had shown in instances that he was lacking certain skills. In the National Team, he seems to be more confident and is doing a better job than what he does in Barcelona. So far he is doing well.
     
  24. mac-0n3

    mac-0n3 Member

    Sep 6, 2006
    Toronto,Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    i dont see what the problem is, Marcelo 1, Banguera 2.......both play solid for the NT thats all i care about.
     
  25. Guayaquileño

    Guayaquileño Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    New York City
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Banguera is giving Elizaga a run for his money. Banguera has some excellent reflexes ! The goals that have gone past him are stright up unavoidable and any keeper would have conceded those. The rest, he has been excellent, he is great at blocking penalties as we have seen in the tournament and now in international games, and he has many times saved the team from sure goals.

    Banguera and Elizaga are the best Ecuador has right now !
     

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