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Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by PsychedelicCeltic, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. PsychedelicCeltic

    PsychedelicCeltic New Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    San Francisco/London
    Just a random thread for stories, observations, good Youtubes, jokes, etc. Also a good repository for stories involving smaller clubs that might not fit in a current thread.

    Let's get it started: That Ricky van Wolfswinkel kid..not bad eh? Hat trick inside 46 minutes - albeit with two penalties - and not a bad goalscoring record for Utrecht. It'll be good to see European football at the Galgenwaard.
     
  2. Mighty Dutch

    Mighty Dutch Red Card

    May 1, 2010
    Could someone post what kind of striker Ricky van Wolfswinkel is??
    Is he senior Oranje material?? Which past player do you compare him to the most??

    From what I seen he's not yet Oranje material so far.
    He could be in the future though with a bit of maturing
     
  3. he so scrumptiouz

    Jun 1, 2006
    amsterdam
    i reckon he's the next van nistelrooy, although a foreign girl told me he reminds her a bit of rvp in terms of looks lol.

    ricky can score from outside the box so he has one thing over ruud already (canard):p

    if huntelaar doesn't sign for spurs asap or schalke even, i can see ricky being called up sooner than later since milan just isn't working for klaas jan. same goes for koevermans and psv.

    ricky, luuk & luc (and hopefully geoffry) are probably the future oranje strikers when the likes of kuyt and rvn retires (both klaas jan and robin are 27 so probably have some decent years in them left).
     
  4. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Wolfswinkel is a tall, skinny, all-round striker. But lacks any specific qualities to make it to the international top if you ask me.
     
  5. Mighty Dutch

    Mighty Dutch Red Card

    May 1, 2010
    Unfortunately, thats exactly what I was thinking. He strikes (no pun) me as a junior type player who does well in U-21 tournaments, but will never be world class.

    I hope he proves me wrong though
     
  6. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I believe he so scrumptious is a believer in v Wolfswinkel, me personally I'm very sceptical. He did score a hattrick against Celtic, but I have to see it more often from him to be able to say he is ready for a club as Liverpool or something. I'm very worried if he is the one that has to take over from the current Oranje striker generation. Altough v Persie did not particularly well at the WC I think he has far more quality.
     
  7. FCGrunn

    FCGrunn Member

    Oct 30, 2007
    Groningen
    Club:
    FC Groningen
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--

    ClubSeizoenCompetitieBekerPlay-offsEuropaTotaalWedGoalsWedGoalsWedGoalsWedGoalsWedGoalsVitesse2007–08100000--102008–093282000--328Total3382000--338FC Utrecht2009–103171144--36122010–1135000066911Total67203144547729


    I think van Wolfswinkel is an absolute prodigy. Look at these stats whilst playing at mediocre clubs and at such a young age.

    Edit: ok, that copy-paste didn't work out. here are the stats:

    http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_van_Wolfswinkel
     
  8. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    I wasn't even sure he was on the pitch against Twente yesterday. I quite literally did not notice him.
     
  9. Mighty Dutch

    Mighty Dutch Red Card

    May 1, 2010
    I'd like to (eventually) see Luuk de Jong get a try at Oranje striker.
    He looks much more talented IMO
    Two of those 3 goals were PK's.

    Just sayin
     
  10. MagpieFan

    MagpieFan Member+

    Apr 25, 2004
    Back in DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    v Wolfswinkel is being linked with Newcastle apparently. But then that could all be 'agent talking' too.
     
  11. he so scrumptiouz

    Jun 1, 2006
    amsterdam
    if that's the sum to go by, i think newcastle will find it very hard to find the funding considering what supersewelly (sp?) has said in the twente thread about the toons finances.
     
  12. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't think Van Wolfswinkel is ready to move on just yet. He still needs to get stronger and work on some aspects of his game. He would do well to look at Ryan Babel's experience with Liverpool and not repeat it.;)
     
  13. he so scrumptiouz

    Jun 1, 2006
    amsterdam
    i still stand by that statement :D

    agree with orange14, ricky is too young to consider a move abroad and especially liverpool who have a bad track record since the sinama-pongolle and le tallec days.

    much to contrary belief, luuk de jong is not an academy player from twente. he already played a season of first flight footie at de graafschap before moving to fc twente's 1st team in 2009,

    while siem de jong joined ajax' academy in 2005.
     
  14. MagpieFan

    MagpieFan Member+

    Apr 25, 2004
    Back in DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what's generally agreed over on the Toon boards too. Either "we don't have that kind of money" or "at this point, he's not worth that much money out of us" is how it has been expressed.

    In all, it feels like 'let's make some buzz in the market this window and see if his form attracts more attention in the future' maneuvering.
     
  15. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Vitesse reported to sign Nacer Barazite from Arsenal later today.
     
  16. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    As if he's going to help them win the league!

    The FIOD are on Vitesse's case according to AD.
     
  17. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    As if? He's likely to make them stronger at least. I think that's good enough. Also, I'm very interested in seeing him play and would applaud this. He's a Vitesse man as well.

    You're not threatened, are you?
     
  18. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Threatened? Have you checked the league table lately? A club that sells its soul to a dodgy business consortium doesn't have my support, sorry.

    The last time I saw Barazite play was for the Holland under 21s and he was crap!
     
  19. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Another case of a young player with signs of €s in his eyes and playing time for a big time club. Unfortunately, he forgot that 99% of the time it doesn't work out and he ends up in the bowels of Euro football. All too sad.
     
  20. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    He's 20 years old, probably richer than any of us and would likely be no better off if he had stayed at NEC. I don't think it's sad at all.
     
  21. BTV802

    BTV802 BigSoccer Supporter

    AFC Ajax
    Jul 11, 2006
    Vermont
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    This thread is getting too serious...Time to kick it up a notch.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9xq-TVyHI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9xq-TVyHI[/ame]
     
  22. Mighty Dutch

    Mighty Dutch Red Card

    May 1, 2010
    My dog is cooler than your dog :p

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8rxXamfh5c&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- English Bulldog watching TV (Family Guy) sitting on a couch[/ame]
     
  23. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    It's not sad, just stupid short-term thinking that's all. Hardly surprising considering that the IQ of the average footballer equals that of a stoeptegel.
     
  24. Erwin6174

    Erwin6174 Member

    Jun 13, 2008
    The Netherlands
    That's being pretty generous, but ok.
     
  25. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Sorry, I ddn't mean to give stoeptegels a bad rep there!
     

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