I saw standings posted, and figured that I would keep a running tally of my CONCACAF Coefficient, for both club and country, based on the UEFA coefficient. The formulas for calculation: Federation Coefficient: Each nation earns a total number of points, which is then divided by the number of teams participating in that edition. The overall coefficient is the sum of that nation's last 5 years. As we're in the middle of the second year, obviously no results have been expunged. Points are earned as follows: Preliminary round - 1 point for a win, .5 for a draw 4 bonus points for group stage appearance In the group stage + knockout rounds - 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw 1 bonus point for reaching the quarterfinals, 1 for reaching the semifinals, and 1 for reaching the final. Club coefficient: In addition to the federation coefficient, clubs can earn their own individual ranking. The club coefficient is the number of points that club has earned in a particular edition, plus 1/3 of their nation's coefficient from that year. Clubs can only earn points and shift from a 0.0000 ranking if they participate in the group stages. - Points cannot be earned in the preliminary rounds - No bonus points are given for group stage participation - 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw throughout the group stages and knockout rounds - 1 bonus point for reaching the quarterfinals, 1 bonus point for reaching the semifinals, 1 bonus point for reaching the finals
As of 3:00 AM Eastern, September 30 Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 12.375 31.625 Honduras 12.750 5.333 18.083 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 CFU 9.167 7.000 16.167 Panama 9.250 6.500 15.750 United States 4.625 6.875 11.500 Guatemala 5.000 4.000 9.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 2.500 7.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 13.0838 36.5005 UNAM 16.4167 11.0838 27.5005 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 4.3100 21.3656 Marathon 14.2500 5.7600 20.0100 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.2688 17.8105 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 Toluca 0.0000 12.0838 12.0838 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Pachuca 0.0000 10.0838 10.0838 Arabe Unido 0.0000 9.1450 9.1450 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 D.C. United 2.5417 6.2688 8.8105 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 Columbus 0.0000 7.2688 7.2688 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 Comunicaciones0.0000 5.3200 5.3200 W Connection 0.0000 5.3100 5.3100 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Real Espana 0.0000 3.7600 3.7600 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.3100 2.3100 Isidro Metapan0.0000 0.8250 0.8250
awesome job metro! Something I would like to see is a definite standard for bid distribution once the coefficient is firmly in place. So for our 24 team championship I would like to see as follows The following is to be applied to Mexico, USA, and Central American leagues based off of their coefficient standings Leagues 1-2, 2 groups, 2 qualifiers Leagues 3-4 1 group, 2 qualifiers Leagues 5-6 1 group, 1 qualifier League 7 1 qualifier Leagues 8-9, .5 qualifier (2 legged playoff for entry) Canada only has three teams therefore their one qualifier is appropriate and Caribbean entry is based off a tournament, so three qualifiers is appropriate, considering the cap is 4 teams. If either Canada or the Carribbean teams deserve an automatic group, then that can be easily readjusted. For example say you wanted to give the Carribean tournament winner an automatic group slot instead of a qualification slot, then league 6 becomes 2 qualifiers instead of 1 group, 1 qualifier. Based upon THESE STANDINGS here is how i would distribute the bids. i know we are on a three year trial run and the current tournament is not yet finished Mexico- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier Honduras- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier Panama-1 Group, 2 Qualifier USA- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier Guatemala- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier Costa Rica- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier El Salvador- 1 Qualifier Nicaragua- .5 Qualifier Belize- .5 Qualifier Canada- 1 Qualifier Caribbean- 3 Qualifier
no one deserves as many spots as mexico. Mexico- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier Honduras- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier Panama-1 Group, 2 Qualifier USA- 2 Group, 1 Qualifier, at most but they still have a lot to prove. Guatemala- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier Costa Rica- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier, still a good league but they have to prove themselves again. El Salvador- 1 Qualifier Nicaragua- .5 Qualifier Belize- .5 Qualifier Canada- 1 Qualifier Caribbean- 3 Qualifier
Country Ranking - UEFA coefficient method - Central and North America(CONCACAF): http://uatransfer.ru/index.php?v0=0&v1=0&v2=0&v3=0&v4=92 Country Ranking - UEFA coefficient method - World: http://uatransfer.ru
Those numbers are off for a number of reasons. First, they consider the CFU nations as individual countries, which, for the purposes of this tournament, the confederation does not do. Also, this takes into account CCC's, which, given the dramatic change in format, is not a fair assessment of the region. It also seems to count UNCAF and CFU qualifiers in the rankings, which is a poor way to judge CONCACAF. Additionally, a pure UEFA coefficient doesn't work perfectly for our confederation, as there is only one continent-wide tournament in CONCACAF.
After Group Stage, Matchday 5 Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 13.375 32.625 Honduras 12.750 6.667 19.417 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 CFU 9.167 7.000 16.167 Panama 9.250 6.500 15.750 United States 4.625 7.375 12.000 Guatemala 5.000 4.000 9.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 2.500 7.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 13.4138 36.8305 UNAM 16.4167 13.4138 29.8305 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Marathon 14.2500 8.2000 22.4500 Puerto Rico 17.0556 4.3100 21.3656 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.4388 17.9755 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 Toluca 0.0000 12.4138 12.4138 Pachuca 0.0000 12.4138 12.4138 D.C. United 2.5417 8.4388 10.9755 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Arabe Unido 0.0000 9.1450 9.1450 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 Columbus 0.0000 7.4388 7.4388 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 Real Espana 0.0000 6.2000 6.2000 Comunicaciones0.0000 5.3200 5.3200 W Connection 0.0000 5.3100 5.3100 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.3100 2.3100 Isidro Metapan0.0000 0.8250 0.8250
After completion of group stages: Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 15.625 34.875 Honduras 12.750 7.667 20.417 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.125 12.750 Guatemala 5.000 5.500 10.500 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 17.1563 40.5730 UNAM 16.4167 15.1563 31.5730 Marathon 14.2500 11.5300 25.7800 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.5988 18.1405 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Pachuca 0.0000 16.1563 16.1563 Toluca 0.0000 15.1563 15.1563 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.5988 12.1405 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Columbus 0.0000 9.5988 9.5988 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 Comunicaciones0.0000 8.8150 8.8150 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 Real Espana 0.0000 6.5300 6.5300 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400
After Quarterfinal, First Leg Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 16.625 35.875 Honduras 12.750 8.333 21.083 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.375 13.000 Guatemala 5.000 6.000 11.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 19.4863 42.9030 UNAM 16.4167 15.4863 31.9030 Marathon 14.2500 13.7500 28.0000 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.7638 18.3055 Pachuca 0.0000 17.4863 17.4863 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Toluca 0.0000 16.4863 16.4863 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.7638 12.3055 Columbus 0.0000 10.7638 10.7638 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Comunicaciones0.0000 9.9800 9.9800 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Real Espana 0.0000 6.7500 6.7500 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400
If any of you guys care... it appears that the coefficients that TPTB are using when it comes to this tournament are based on team advancement through each round of play and not based on individual game results. I don't have time to dig up the thread, but it should be easy to find. It's title is about the same as this one and it should only be a page or two back. I'm not saying you shouldn't be keeping your own talley, but all means, go ahead! It's just an fyi. PS - okay, I found one. I'll update it after this tournaments over and see if we can get some predictions on where they'll go with the seeding. https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17909668#post17909668 PPS - OP, heck, I just noticed I already told you the same thing back then. You're the one that started that thread. Why a new thread? https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18174860&highlight=guat#post18174860
Not that you need anyone to tell you that Mexico has the best clubs in North America... After 2009-10 Quarterfinals Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 19.625 38.875 Honduras 12.750 8.333 21.083 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.375 13.000 Guatemala 5.000 6.000 11.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 23.4763 46.8930 UNAM 16.4167 19.4763 35.8930 Marathon 14.2500 13.7500 28.0000 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Pachuca 0.0000 21.4763 21.4763 Toluca 0.0000 20.4763 20.4763 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.7638 18.3055 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.7638 12.3055 Columbus 0.0000 10.7638 10.7638 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Comunicaciones0.0000 9.9800 9.9800 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Real Espana 0.0000 6.7500 6.7500 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400 Also, if you're oh-so-curious about where Mexico's number will end up, it's 23.125 for this season.
Well, here's how it works out if you base it on advancing through rounds, which it seems like there are. If it's one point per advance this is how it shakes out... 2008-9 Pts/Teams Mex 12/4 Hon 2/1 Can 2/1 Carib 4/3 Panama 2/2 USA 1/4 Guat 0/2 CR 0/2 ES 0/2 Bel 0/1 Nic 0/1 2009-10* Pts/Teams Mex 13/4 Carib 3/3 Panama 2/2 Hon 2/3 USA 2/4 Guat 1/2 Can 0/1 CR 0/3 ES 0/2 Total Pts/Teams Mex 25/8 Carib 7/6 Panama 4/4 Hon 4/4 Can 2/2 USA 3/8 Guat 1/4 CR 0/5 ES 0/4 Bel 0/1 Nic 0/1 *It's complete because only Mexican teams are left. So, based on that. If we're going to keep the same size tournament... I'd give Mexico four slots automatically in the group stage. It's ridiculous to have them in the prelims. That leaves four group slots left. The CFU teams have shown themselves to be of higher caliber than predicted. I'd give one of the four to them. Panama and Honduras have also done well. And I don't think that CONCACAF is ready to give up on its cash cow so the US get's the last one, although it's dubious at best that we deserve it. So, auto to the group stage 4 Mex, 1 CFU, 1 Panama, 1 Honduras, and 1 USA. For the remaining 16 slots, well, they've got at least one slot to every fed, including Nicaragua and Belize. Hopefully, they'll get it together. That leaves six extra. I think the CFU has shown they deserve four total entries, so that's two more, leaving four. I don't think they'll take more than one away from the US, hell, they probably won't take any. So, that means the US get's one more. Leaving an extra seed for Panama and Honduras. They won't increase Canada's, even though they haven't done too poorly. They only have three teams competing for the one slot. So, the final one will go to either Guatamala (the only other fed to have a team advance) or CR, who seems to be a favorite despite poor performance. Here's how it breaks down. That seems much more fair than the current allotment, apart from the US getting three, but that's the nature of things. Fed Entries (Auto to group stage) Mex 4 (4) Carib 4 (1) Panama 3 (1) Hon 3 (1) USA 3 (1) CR 2 Can 1 Guat 1 ES 1 Bel 1 Nic 1 Keep in mind, if Nic and Bel don't keep their entries they'll go to some of the other better performing nations. Whatever happens, based on the first two years of this format we can say that Mexico dominates. The US and CR do not deserve the slots they have. And the CFU, Panama, and Honduras probably deserve more than the ones they get.
Howard Hamilton updated his coefficients at http://www.soccermetricsblog.com/2010/03/concacaf-club-coefficients-20100320.html.
After 2009-10 semifinals, 1st leg: Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 20.625 39.875 Honduras 12.750 8.333 21.083 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.375 13.000 Guatemala 5.000 6.000 11.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 23.8063 47.2230 UNAM 16.4167 21.8063 38.2230 Marathon 14.2500 13.7500 28.0000 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Pachuca 0.0000 22.8063 22.8063 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Toluca 0.0000 21.8063 21.8063 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.7638 18.3055 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.7638 12.3055 Columbus 0.0000 10.7638 10.7638 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Comunicaciones0.0000 9.9800 9.9800 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Real Espana 0.0000 6.7500 6.7500 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400
Two years is a pretty small sample. CFU and Canada are probably overranked right now because of Montreal and Puerto Rico's incredible runs in the first year.
Absolutely. I have all the intention in the world of keeping this running for quite a while. Once we get done with 3 or 4 years, I think it will be far more indicative of the relative strength of particular nations. After 5, we'll be golden.
After 2009-10 semifinals Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 22.125 41.375 Honduras 12.750 8.333 21.083 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.375 13.000 Guatemala 5.000 6.000 11.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 27.3013 50.7180 UNAM 16.4167 22.3013 38.7180 Marathon 14.2500 13.7500 28.0000 Pachuca 0.0000 26.3013 26.3013 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Toluca 0.0000 22.3013 22.3013 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.7638 18.3055 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.7638 12.3055 Columbus 0.0000 10.7638 10.7638 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Comunicaciones0.0000 9.9800 9.9800 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Real Espana 0.0000 6.7500 6.7500 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400
After 2009-10 Final, First Leg Other statistical note, in order for this year's CCL to pass last year's in attendance, the number for Pachuca's home leg has to be greater than 36,514. Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 22.625 41.875 Honduras 12.750 8.333 21.083 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.375 13.000 Guatemala 5.000 6.000 11.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 29.4663 52.8830 UNAM 16.4167 22.4463 38.8830 Marathon 14.2500 13.7500 28.0000 Pachuca 0.0000 26.4463 26.4463 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Toluca 0.0000 22.4463 22.4463 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.7638 18.3055 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.7638 12.3055 Columbus 0.0000 10.7638 10.7638 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Comunicaciones0.0000 9.9800 9.9800 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Real Espana 0.0000 6.7500 6.7500 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400
After 2009-10 CCL Code: League Coefficient Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Mexico 19.250 23.125 42.375 Honduras 12.750 8.333 21.083 CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167 Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000 Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250 United States 4.625 8.375 13.000 Guatemala 5.000 6.000 11.000 Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917 El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750 Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500 Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000 Club Coefficient Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall Cruz Azul 23.4167 29.6313 53.0480 UNAM 16.4167 22.6313 39.0480 Pachuca 0.0000 28.6313 28.6313 Marathon 14.2500 13.7500 28.0000 Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167 Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956 Toluca 0.0000 22.6313 22.6313 Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167 Houston 10.5417 7.7638 18.3055 Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000 Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617 D.C. United 2.5417 9.7638 12.3055 Columbus 0.0000 10.7638 10.7638 Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100 Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500 Comunicaciones0.0000 9.9800 9.9800 Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833 L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500 W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400 Real Espana 0.0000 6.7500 6.7500 Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667 San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833 Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556 Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550 SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400
I'm positive this is what they're doing now. They had to replace the Nicaragua and Belize teams this year and they chose Honduras and Panama to do it. Those are the top two performing nations from Central America based on advancement between rounds. If El Salvador can't compete they'll probably give the next spot to Guatemala or the Caribbean.
Honduras and Panama are also the top two CA teams in my system. CONCACAF is probably keeping it simple though, your way is almost definitely what they're doing.
Well, it's not really my way. It's the way I guessed they are doing. Heh. But it's a relief to know they are actually using a objective system. They've come a long way. I hope they stick with their plan of reallocation after next year. It will further legitimize the tournament. I just wish they would be transparent like the other confeds.
I like this thread, hope it lives on this year. Like UEFA, we need more years to determine the relative strengths (though everyone knows Mexico is #1). I believe UEFA uses a 5 year running total. I think CONCACAF should do likewise with the current configuration, then after 5 years start making adjustments based on country strength. Now, they won't be able to use the same system as UEFA. And there is no CONCACAF equivalent of Europe League/UEFA Cup, so many nations will be left out entirely (unless the Superliga format changes).