Match 29: Brazil Cote x d'Ivoire Post Game

Discussion in 'GROUP G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portuga' started by Ombak, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. sardus_pater

    sardus_pater Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Sardinia Italy EU
    Club:
    Cagliari Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Those you mention are italianisms no more than they are argentinianisms or brazilianisms etc etc. Add any nation + -ism.

    p.s. An argentinian who accuses others of diving etc etc is bizarre. Just admit it, you're happy of fabiano's handballs so you can use them as a weapon when the "hands of god" argument comes out.
     
  2. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Argentina, this and last WC, has played the most beautiful soccer in the WC. I think Brazil played a great match today, but were a bore against NK.

    Spain are true to their artistry, but the results won't come for them when it matters. Holland always have that artistic touch and they should go far this time around.
     
  3. navijacica

    navijacica Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    wait, they have one of the best if not best player of current WC on wing - maicon
     
  4. fairwitness

    fairwitness New Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Again, he wasn't in the middle of anything. He was away from the play and the guy came running right at him. Short of stepping out of the way or taking a dive himself, I'm not sure what he was supposed to do.

    Two very nice assists by Kaka. I don't think the Ivory Coast players were happy about that, or about being down by 3 goals.
     
  5. demogorgon

    demogorgon Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    This. Not only in this tournament, throughout the history they played some dirty football, more so than Brazil.

    Anyway, it wasn't a perfect match but Brazil did their job and with the way they play they are among the biggest favourites to win this tournament.
    Hopefully Elano is OK, he is the engine of this team, any news on him ?

    Referee was a joke, Fabiano played with his hand twice and Ivory Coast should have never finish this match with all the players on the pitch.
     
  6. Asalieri

    Asalieri Member+

    Jun 29, 2004
    Mesa, Arizona
    Club:
    CA San Lorenzo de Almagro
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Dude, the first half was full of missed passes, half-assed plays from Brazil, the Ivorians actually controlled the ball MORE which is very uncharacteristic from Brazil, missed shots. Which half did you WATCH, Germany vs. Australia?!?

    Brazil was lazy and sloppy in the first half,
    classless in the second.

    IC was just plain terrible.
     
  7. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'm not talking about that play alone. He was at the center of a lot of pushing and shoving and he never should have been. Idiocy on his part -every player should be smart enough to not contribute to escalating all that nonsense.

    The second yellow may have been absurd but it was not an isolated incident, it was part of a series of petty clashes Brazil was foolish to contribute to.
     
  8. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Yes Keita runs over but nothing would have happend had Kaka not raised his elbow.

    Of course what Keita did was laughable and a disgrace. Nobody is denying that. However, you're basically saying that Kaka was just standing there doing nothing while Keita ran into him? There would have been zero contact without the hand up.
     
  9. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    Really? That is so contrary to the game they played against Portugal in the last WC.
     
  10. Volrath

    Volrath Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Mourinho is the death of futbol... :)
     
  11. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Having their opponent control the ball more is NOT uncharacteristic of Brazil. As an Argentine you should know that.

    I agree we had far far far too many bad passes. A few good moments shouldn't let us ignore that.
     
  12. navijacica

    navijacica Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    what? lol go watch a replay.

    That said you are obviously a brazillian hater just as much as I hate messians. So it is stupid to talk to you really. Just like it would be stupid to talk to me if messi would score 6 goals. he would still suck :p
     
  13. thejuggernaut

    thejuggernaut Member

    Mar 25, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What was with that? I should've turned off the match after that sh*t. All the pundits will talk about how an average ass kaka is going to miss a pointless match... but the real talking point should be why was this guy even reffing!!

    Another match another disgrace!
     
  14. Asalieri

    Asalieri Member+

    Jun 29, 2004
    Mesa, Arizona
    Club:
    CA San Lorenzo de Almagro
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Lemme put it this way, Ombak; it's uncharacteristic of Brazil when playing a team such as CIV.
     
  15. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    lol. So true. :D
     
  16. navijacica

    navijacica Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    what is not being discussed at all is the tackle that injured elano. bad call there? I think red should be given there
     
  17. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    Who knows what they were talking about. It may look that way but it could have been about something else. The ref should be questioned about it.
     
  18. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    My honest opinion on that? The ref did not have an angle to see the handball but wondered if Luis Fabiano got away with one. I'd have to see replays and look for the ref to confirm that. There were several CIV players very close to Luis Fabiano (part of why it looked so beautiful), so I would be surprised if the ref had a clean look.
     
  19. Dustyvinyl

    Dustyvinyl Member

    Jun 16, 2008
    Santa Ana,Ca
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Exactly, Maicon is the best LB in the game. but he's not quick, he's more of an enforcer.I like him along with Lucio. it's just my personal preference to play a Dani Alves type.

    Brasil has versatility to play a certain strategy Vs. RNK and a diff. one vs. Ivory Coast. It shows that they have to right stuff to win this WC imo.
     
  20. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not entirely - CIV didn't attack enough with their possession so I could be convinced by you on this point, but I think Brazil expected them to commit more numbers and thus Brazil were expecting to have space on the counter. Once that was clearly not the case the game changed but Brazil were not always ready for it.
     
  21. Asalieri

    Asalieri Member+

    Jun 29, 2004
    Mesa, Arizona
    Club:
    CA San Lorenzo de Almagro
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It's not Brazil hatred. I actually *used* to like watching them play. But today they weren't their usual class side.

    Stupid to hate a player, by the way. That shows you're a beginner to the sport, who doesn't really understand fully what he sees yet. (welcome, by the way!)
     
  22. Asalieri

    Asalieri Member+

    Jun 29, 2004
    Mesa, Arizona
    Club:
    CA San Lorenzo de Almagro
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Actually, I can agree with that. It's true, they let the ball go for a bit, and then when they realized CIV wasn't going to open up, they just went for it.
     
  23. vancity eagle

    vancity eagle Member+

    Apr 6, 2006
    It was disgraceful to hear the commentators after the match go on about how Kaka should not have been red carded (especially when he will miss a match meaningless to them and be back for 2nd round) Yet they did not mention the real turning point of the game the disgraceful goal awarded to Fabiano for 2 clear handballs, and then his disgraceful behavior laughing about it afterward. Im done with football until they bring in video replay, it is definately needed and will not waste any more time than players diving around and wasting time. Pathetic.
     
  24. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    RB, not LB. But definitely fast (if not quick) and one of the reasons Brazil is most dangerous on the right hand side. He was clocked at over 30km/h in the NK game.
    It was pretty clear that the ref pointed to his arm and then his chest while talking to Luis Fabiano. As I stated above, I think he did not get a clear view and wondered if Luis Fabiano got away with one.
     
  25. navijacica

    navijacica Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    lol you go after a match that had a superb completed passes (if you want go check on matchcast - each player has in average 5-6 passess missed) and tell me they can't pass? And than I am beginner? LOL
     

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