Octavos de Final- como ven los cruces de Copa 2010?

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Por acá, todos los que hablan Español son inmediatamente llamados "Mexicans." Puedes ser de Argentina, España, Chile, Venezuela, etc. pero para los canadienses, eres un "Mexican."

    Hasta los brasileños lo son. He tenido que explicar que en Brasil hablan postugués varias veces. Les parece extraño, porque para ellos todavia suena a "Mexican."

    Pero por el oeste del Canadá la verdad que los Latinos son muy escazos. Sólo hay en Vancouver, y yo vivo varías horas al norte de allí. En estos pueblos, no hay nadie que hable español, o que les interese saber que Argentina no es México.
     
  2. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Y ya te felicitaron por el 5 de Mayo? :D

    Cuando yo vivia en el norte lo hacian, pensando que era un cumplido... yo solo los miraba sonriendo.
     
  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Bueno, yo considero a todos nuestros paises hermanos, de Puerto Rico a Chile, así que si me toman por mexicano, está bien. Ni que haya tanta diferencia, la verdad lo que tenemos en común es mucho más grande que lo que nos separa.

    He vivido en USA, también. Canada es muy diferente, lejos de las ciudades. Es un poco como Suiza. La única diversidad son los indios ("First Nations"), pero ellos viven en sus reservas lejos de los pueblos. Después, todo el mundo es anglosajón, escandinavo o alemán. Tocar salsa aquí es como oir yodeling en Bolivia.
     
  4. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    I thought I had heard it all until last week someone asked me if we spoke Portuguese in Chile... then I got horrible flashbacks of similar situations in high school... the horror, the horror. :eek:
     
  5. tadm123

    tadm123 Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
  6. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    so is corinthians the san lorenzo brazilian version? dont forget they are the one one from the BIG5 in ARG who never won a libertadores.
     
  7. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Cuando vine a Estados Unidos unos vecinos me invitaron a comer a su casa, y me dijeron con mucho orgullo que habian ordenado comida especial de mi pais. Yo pense, habran ordenado churrasco, pizza o empanadas? Pero habian ordenado tacos Mexicanos con porotos y arroz. La verdad me parecio muy rico, pero era la primera vez que habia visto ese tipo de comida en mi vida.
     
  8. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    es logico porque en sudamerica no se comen tortillas, a excepcion de colombia y venezuela que comen algo mas o menos parecido: arepas, que no se que sera o a que sabera pero segun muchos colombianos me han dicho que son muy parecidas.

    despues en argentina no se comen porotos, y arroz peor aun. es mas con decir que un jugador argentino llamado fernando martinuzzi que jugo en peru entre el 2007-08 dijo una vez que en argentina no comian arroz porque eso era comidad de presos.....
     
  9. FARFAN 17

    FARFAN 17 Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Back in NJ :(
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Fran talking about food. No, it can't be. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Arthur V

    Arthur V Member

    Dec 29, 2008
    Brasilia, BRASIL
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yes. Corinthians is just like San Lorenzo.

    And I hope that they continue like this. :D
     
  11. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    un hincha de la U hablando de futbol? futbol, una palabra que no existe para uds. y como no va a existir si para uds no existe el ataque, la definicion solo MANTENER EL ARCO EN BLANCO!

    a veces es mil veces perder 5-0 pero muriendo en el intento de meter gol que quedar 0-0 y aburrir a todo un continente.
     
  12. elperucho

    elperucho Member

    Mar 19, 2007
    Miami, Florida
    Guys, If you wonder Why Francis likes troll in this forum

    This is the main reason:

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    And shame for Corinthians, I wanted them to be in 4tos de final.
     
  13. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    LOL, cuando hablan de la supuesta falta de Rivarola al arquero, se nota claramente que Rivarola ni lo toca. Es mas, este ya se viene cayendo cuando Forsyth entra en escena. :rolleyes: :D

    El supuesto offside de Rivarola no es claro, esta a lo mas en linea con el defensa. Esa me parece discutible.

    Ninguna de esas jugadas es 100% clara, al igual que la del gol de Alianza donde no esta claro si la pelota pasa 100% o no la linea. Tildar tajantemente de robo algunas de estas jugadas me parece una actitud altamente pretenciosa. Que se dejen de joder estos de Fuks Spor...

    Lo unico claro es que Alianza jugo un gran partido y la U quedo al debe anoche. A veces suele pasar que el demuestra un futbol mas vistoso no pasa de ronda... el futbol es asi.
     
  14. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Anybody who watched both the home and away Corinthians vs Flamengo matches could tell that Corinthians wouldn't make it far. In all honestl, having Ronaldo upfront is like playing with 10. :D
     
  15. CIA

    CIA Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    Club:
    Hijos de Acosvinchos
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Nope. I personally am not sure if it was truly obstruction or not (although I do think it was), but if it was, then when the ball parts Seymour's foot, everything and anything that happens afterward should have been invalidated. The offside rule is pretty clear on that. There's no gray area whatsoever like some seem to think.

    And also, the Alianza goal was controversial as well, but it did enter the net.
     
  16. HeartandSoul

    HeartandSoul Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2007
    The Garden State
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    The ball doesn't look to go completely over the line. I'm looking at the positioning of the goalies feet and the position of his arms that are in a forward motion and the adjacent goal posts. I don't see the ball crossing over 100%.
     
  17. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He gets called up to the NT once in awhile but he's not a solid on the roster, he's actually officially with Estudiantes but got loaned out to Olimpia then to Alianza.

    He is a good player tho, I wouldn't mind him coming back to Olimpia.
     
  18. devilman

    devilman Member

    Dec 26, 2004
    Houston,Tx.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    why are people still talking about the goal vs. Alianza???? its over, history , there is nothing that can be done.. get over it!
     
  19. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    los del offside eran olarra y fernandez , mas no rivarola. hubo offside y no se cobro pero ese no es el problema. aca todo ese "bolondron" se orgina porque el central se retracta. ese tipo no tiene actitud ni nada. esto lo vengo diciendo cuanto? como unas 5-6 veces?

    bueno. es asi de simple. el arbitro se retracta debido a la presion de "la chile" y ahi se origina todo el problema. o era perjudicar el "local" o al visitante y decidio irse por el "local".
     
  20. devilman

    devilman Member

    Dec 26, 2004
    Houston,Tx.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Tengo una buen idea; lea post #613 ...
     
  21. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    buena idea, pero no cierran el thread
     
  22. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    As you said "personally", in other words "in your opinion". Fair enough: you don't think the goal should have counted...but like it has been discussed, technically speaking the goal was an own goal.

    And yes the offside rule/law is pretty clear. However, if my team is attacking, I am standing by the corner flag, a teammate of mine shoots and the ball goes in thanks to a deflection off a defender, that's an own goal. That's also pretty "cut and dry".

    Fwiw, I think the call could go either way in this particular case. What bothers me is all the whining (done by Peruvians) considering Alianza's pseudo first goal.


    No, it did not: certainly not completely. As you said "the rule is pretty clear on this"...: the ball has to go in completely. :)
     
  23. CIA

    CIA Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    Club:
    Hijos de Acosvinchos
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    No, I said "personally" as in "personally." I, like most people could never be sure if that was indeed obstruction - seeing as how it's a very messy play and there's no camera angle from the goalkeeper's point of view.

    Sure it's cut and dry. But what's also cut and dry is that if it is indeed offside, then like I said, "anything and everything" after that is invalidated.

    Although if that was the case, standing by the corner flag wouldn't have been offsides, because that player obviously wouldn't be interfering with the play.
    What bothers me, is you guys being so stubborn and not accepting that if it indeed was obstruction, it wouldn't have mattered how or who headed the ball in.:p
    Actually no. If 75% of the ball crosses the line, it's a goal. And that's FIFA rules.

    We're never going to agree (although I do think everything it's as clear as water :p), so let's just agree to disagree. Hell, I'm not even an Alianza fan!:D
     
  24. devilman

    devilman Member

    Dec 26, 2004
    Houston,Tx.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz.............
     
  25. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    someone wake up the texan. let's talk about boca or something.:D
     

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