finally somebody understood this. but it wasn't the linesman the one who got scared. it was the main REFEREE. he was the one that got intimidated and scared. he is the responsible for the final decision and alianza's elimination. man peruvian teams are cursed, trust me there.
But I don't think the ref ever went back on his original call. He just consulted with the lineman, and at that time Pelusso was going crazy. But he never invalidated the goal. He simply heard the lineman and then made his decision to let the goal stand. Whether he did it because he believed it was the right decision or because he was a coward, I guess we'll never know.
Que asquerosa manera de ganar un partido, ptm. Esa terna arbitral se orino en sus pantalones. Sarta de cobardes.
agree with you there. the first goal was doubt-able but the referee didnt hesitate at all. i wonder why he didnt use the same criteria on seymour's goal! it was a robbery too.
Fran, 5 players rushing over there isn't going to make a difference when you have a packed stadium protesting. Honestly, who knows if it was a legitimate goal or not. The thing that's sad is that the linesman pissed his pants and didn't hold his ground, especially reversing his decision.
Nothing confusing about that last play. The goal should have been invalidated. The linesman raised the flag when the Chilean player shoots because there were two La U players, both offsides, both withing reach of the goalie, in active position, blocking his view.
Even though the second goal was controversial, Fernandez, ( 0-1) the ball did not completely crossed the line. So, we got two controversies for both sides. Anyway, one Alianza player pushed a "carabinero" and Costas entered the field to celebrate Alianza's secondo goal, provoquing the Chilean fas, unacceptable coming from a coach.
another one who understood the whole situation. it was the referee who decided to revert the linesman decision, not the linesman though.
but no players? cmon man. what about costas? didnt he got in the field and started celebrating fernandez's goal? how come right there 1 man was making a difference on a packed stadium? the ecuadorian referee is the goat right here.
Francis, de que choocha hablas? Mejor comenta en espanol porque estas posteando cada diarrea verbal en este thread...
It's an interesting precedent in the ruling of offside. It is offside if one of the players in an offside position is part of the play, as in covering the view of the keeper or going for the ball. One of the Chileans was going for the ball, but not in the final line of the shot (UC1). One of the Chileans was covering the line of sight of the Peruvian keeper, but not in the original line of sight (UC2). Gonzalez, an Alianza player (AL1), deviated the ball. So the player who was going for the ball (UC1) was then going for air, since the ball had changed course. And the other player, UC2, who was offside but not part of the play, got into the play by covering the line of sight on the way of the deviated ball. I'd say it was a goal. UC1 was not part of the play any more, and UC2 became part of the play against his will.
The rule is, the ref decides if it's a goal or not. The lineman raising the flag does not invalidate a goal. The ref has the right to consult the lineman and then make his decision, just as he did. Where the ref failed was in letting the coaching staff and players of La U get on his face, which made it seem that they influenced the decision. He should have ejected them right there, regardless of whether he allowed the goal. Then of course the guys from Alianza saw that the ref allowed abuse, and they were all over him as well, and the ref completely lost control.
oye guti aunque no lo creas te apoyo. ese arbitro es un verdadero inepto y minimo deberia de no arbitrar en la conmebol por un buen rato, buen rato. el arbitro cometio muchos errores. en el primer tiempo no cuestiona el primer gol de fernandez y no acepta reclamos. en el segundo gol de fernandez no expulsa a costas que se mete al campo a celebrar el gol en media cancha. y al final del partido no tiene los "huevos" para hacer valer su autoridad. que tipo mas pusilanime por mi madre. aqui no es ni culpable la U de chile, ni alianza. sino el arbitro. que pena que hayan malos arbitros y que pena que la clasificacion de la U de chile se vea manchada. si bien es cierto no jugaron bien, tienen bien merecido su boleto ya que en lima hicieron su labor y bien o mal el arbitro tibutea y revalida el gol ellos no fueron beneficiados sino todo lo contrario, ahora muchos van a cuestionar el pase a cuartos de la U de chile.
the 1st goal was legit goal, watching the replays. well good luck to the teams who qualified its all i can say. the ones to blame here are not U de Chile rather the referees and linesman. that reverse decision really pissed me so much, he literally got scared off his original decision
oe todavia que te apoyo vienes y jodes? csm BIEN HECHO QUE PASO LA U DE CHILE Y QUE TU ALIAAAAAAAAAAANZA QUEDO ELIMINADO! AHORA ESTAS CONTENTO? CSM. UNO DA SU PUNTO DE VISTA Y HASTA SE APIADA DE LA TRISTEZA Y TRAGEDIA DE LSO GRONES Y VIENES CON TUS HUEVADAS? csm a ti que miercoles te pasa?
I was gonna say it was offsides, but its a tough call Facts -2 defenders are in the offsides position blocking the vision of the goalie -ball is last touched by an alianza player intentionally in an attempt to force a corner The rules state that referee should call offsides if the opposing players are offsides and participate in the play. The two chunchos participated in the play by blocking the vision of the goalie. However, the ball was intentionally headed by an alianza player... so I dont know the rule there...
si pe, esos aliancistas llorones no se que miercoles reclaman. y todavia los monses reclaman TARDE! chesu, boca, nacional, sao paolo u olimpia no se quedaban parados. la actitud de alianza es tambien NEFASTA. ahora viene el gutierres y sale con sus huevadas