Copa Libertadores 2010 discussion - part 2 [R]

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  1. Juanchi

    Juanchi New Member

    Mar 31, 2010
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Awesome article I came acrosss SAfutbol is just about the best site I have seen......check it out the NO10 Copa Libs teams of ´10!

    My choice is Estudiantes this yr! No2 is pretty good for us.:D


    The 2010 Copa Libertadores is entering its decisive phase, with several teams fighting for a place in the round of 16 stage. With the winners of each group only guaranteed of a spot in the knockout stage (only 6 of the 8 second-placed teams qualify as well) each and every match could prove decisive. As we thought the Brazilian teams have proved to be the strongest of the competition so far, and each and every Brazilian team is expected to reach the next phase. For now it appears that the strongest two teams are last year´s finalists Cruzeiro and Estudiantes de La Plata (still, these two teams have experienced defeats inthe competition).

    10. Libertad (Paraguay)

    After a brilliant start to the competition, Libertad have gone three matches without a victory, something that led to the sacking of their coach. As is the case each year the Paraguayans are a solid hard-working unit, but in recent matches they have lacked the killer´s punch, and this was in clear evidence in their last game, when they couldn´t beat a struggling Lanus side despite taking an early lead and playing with an extra-man for an entire half. Libertad will need to improve their game immediately, if they don´t want to experience an early elimination.


    9. Internacional (Brazil)


    The Colorado may have moved atop Group 5 after their victory over Cerro on Wednesday, but their performance during the Copa has left a lot to be desired. Inter count with an abundance of talent in their squad, however, they haven´t lived up to expectation. Their form in the Gaucho championship has been no less than disastrous, and this has mounted heavy pressure on Uruguayan coach Jorge Fossati, who could soon be out of a job. On the bright side, Inter are one of few undefeated teams in the Copa and they have a good enough squad to go far in the competition. Can they repeat their incredible title run of 2006?


    8. Flamengo (Brazil)

    Any team which comprises of an attacking duo of Adriano and Vagner Love will definitely provide you with plenty of goals, and each time Flamengo take the field they look extremely dangerous in the attack. With two wins in three matches, scoring six goals along the way, Flamengo have been in decent form, but like many of the big Brazilian teams inthe competition they don´t seem to have reached their peak as of yet. With a win over Universidad de Chile at Maracana on April 7 the Mengao will overtake the Chileans at the top of Group 8, a result that would steer them ever so close to the round of 16 stage. But the only objective of the Brazilian champions is to win the title.


    7. Velez Sarsfield (Argentina)

    Velez came into the competition as one of the favourites, but since then they have experienced a number of setbacks, including Thursday´s heavy defeat to Cruzeiro in Belo Horizonte. Ricardo Gareca´s side were completely brushed aside by the Brazilians, but the worst thing was that they could barely get a shot on target in the whole game. Velez count with an incredible attacking partnership, that of Rodrigo Lopez and Santiago Silva, but their impact hasn´t always given results. Still, Velez are a compact unit and appear to be the strongest team fromthe competition outside of Brazil. But are El Fortin championship material?



    6. Banfield (Argentina)

    The Argentine champions play an attractive style of football, but although they have demonstrated this in certain matches, like their 4-0 drubbing of Deportivo Cuenca in Ecuador, they also appear to have some weaknesses. After holding Nacional to an exciting draw in Montevideo, they went on to lose the return leg in Buenos Aires, a result which decreased their chances of winnning the group. But on Thursday Banfield showed their fighting spirit when they rescued a point against Morelia in Mexico with a 93rd minute equaliser. If El Taladro improve certain aspects of their game they could surprise a lot of people.


    5. Sao Paulo (Brazil)

    The Tricolor Paulista have become one of the most dominant clubs in South America in recent years, and they are hoping to translate their domestic success into theCopa Libertadores this year. Sao Paulo have assembled a solid squad, and although they count with a number of aging individuals, they have a great deal of experience. Add this to the quality of a midfielder like Hernanes and a striker like Dagoberto and the Tricolor promise to reach the later stages ofthe competition . Whether Sao Paulo top Group 2 depends on the result of their clash with Colombia´s Once Caldas at the Morumbi stadium on April 21.


    4. Corinthians (Brazil)


    There is much pressure for the Timao to perform, not only because it is their centennary year but because they have made a number of big purchases in recent years. With Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Edu, Iarley, Matias Defederico, Dentinho and Tcheco, just to name a few, Corinthians count with an incredibly talented squad, that if ontop of their game could be unstoppable. But until now, however, Corinthians have struggled to reach their full potential, even if they lead Group 1. Corinthians have never won the Copa before, and this is perhaps their best opportunity of achieving this (the other four Brazilian representatives inthe competition have won it).



    3. Nacional (Uruguay)

    The three-time Copa Libertadores champions are unbeaten in the competition and are hot candidates to progress to the round of 16 stage. Like Uruguayan football on the whole Nacional have improved heaps in recent years and it is only a matter of time before they reach the pinnacle of South American football once again. Their comfortable victory over Banfield in Buenos Aires consolidated their status as one of the leading teams ofthe competition. The Uruguayans lead Group 6 and will practically assure themselves of a place in the next round with a win over Deportivo Cuenca. Los Tricolores are currently on fire.



    2. Estudiantes (Argentina)

    After a number of negative results Estudiantes finally seem to have reached their full potential. An unexpected thrashing to Alianza Lima did a wealth of good to the side, as it allowed them to realise that everybody wants to beat the champions, and that they must be at their best at all moments. Captain Juan Sebastian Veron continues to spearhead the side, but a number of other players like Mauro Boselli, Rodrigo Brana and Jose Sosa have been ontop of their game as well. The return of striker Gaston Fernandez has added much-needed mobility to Estudiantes´ attack, and it has allowed Boselli to return to his all-time best.


    1. Cruzeiro (Brazil)

    Cruzeiro´s massive win over Velez on Wednesday proved that they are an even better side than the one that lost to Estudiantes in the final of the past edition of theCopa Libertadores . With Kleber, Thiago Ribeiro and Gilberto on the field, at times the Belo Horizonte giants seem to be unstoppable. After a frustrating defeat to Velez in Buenos Aires, Cruzeiro regrouped and surpassed that experience with a categorical victory over the Argentines. Cruzeiro play a swift attacking style of football, but their greatest strength is the fact that they count with dangerous players on every sector of the field. Although it is still quite early to predict, from what they have done up until now Cruzeiro seem to be firm candidates to close in on the title.


    Gregory Sica

    Southamericanfutbol.com
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  2. ROMERO879

    ROMERO879 Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  3. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My blog entry for week seven:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/blog.php?b=8089

    Player of the week: Thiago Ribeiro (Cruzeiro)
    Honorable Mention: Walter Erviti (Banfield)

    (Tough one, there were several strong performances this week)

    Goat of the week: Mariano Mina (Emelec)
    Dishonorable mention: Walter Ibáñez (Cerro)

    Team of the week: Cruzeiro
    Honorable Mention: Estudiantes

    Worst team of the week: Juan Aurich
    Dishonorable Mention: Velez
     
  4. Fuera del Area

    Jun 27, 2007
    Santa Barbara, CA
    Club:
    Club Deportivo FAS
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the cutoff point for secure qualification to the next round? 10 points? Because the geniuses at ESPNDeportes were saying that Once Caldas was already in the round of 16, but there are still scenarios where a 2nd-place team can be eliminated with only 11 points.
     
  5. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The geniuses at ESPN probably forgot about the two Mexican clubs that got a wild card due to last year's swine flu debacle.

    I suppose one could do a mathematical analysis of the points needed, based on the matches left for all the clubs that still have a chance at second place. Personally, I'll just let it play out. But if you want to use last year as a reference, the two worst second place teams -Defensor Sporting and Universidad San Martin- both had eight points. So I suppose eleven points should be safe.
     
  6. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  7. FARFAN 17

    FARFAN 17 Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Back in NJ :(
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  8. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    :eek:

    olele olala nos vamos a matute q xuxa va pasar!!! :D
     
  9. FARFAN 17

    FARFAN 17 Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Back in NJ :(
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    My thoughts exactly.

    :cool:
     
  10. alianza4life!

    alianza4life! Member+

    Feb 21, 2008
    hackensack,nj
    a mi me salio igual clasico peruano en octavos!!
     
  11. Juanchi

    Juanchi New Member

    Mar 31, 2010
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    What the.....!!!!!:eek:

    Transfers: Internacional to sign Martin Palermo?

    Argentine goalkeeper Roberto Abbondanzieri, who recently joined Internacional of Porto Alegre from Boca Juniors, affirmed that his new club are keen on securing the services of former Boca team-mate Martin Palermo. Abbondanzieri and Palermo played together at Boca for a number of years, and although towards the end of his career Palermo continues to prove decisive when presented with a goal-scoring opportunity, and will certainly travel to South Africa to confront the World Cup with the Argentine delegation.

    “We are all looking forward to it. He is also interested in us continuing in the Copa Libertadores. We will see if we can bring him here. After the World Cup he will analyse it,” Abbondanzieri told the Argentine press from Porto Alegre, Brazil.


    “For me it would be fantastic. It started as a joke but it could become reality, but it all depends on whether we reach the semi-finals of the Libertadores,” he added.


    In reference to Boca, club who he helped win six national titles and eight international trophies, Abbondanzieri said: “The only thing I want from Boca is for Martin to score one more goal to become the highest goal-scorer of the history of the club. Nothing more. For the rest, for things to go as well as possible.”


    Abbondanzieri, who was Argentina´s first choice goalkeeper at the 2006 World Cup, said he is grateful to Inter for taking an interest in him, because he never thought that he would experience anotherCopa Libertadores campaign.



    The goalkeeper kept a clean sheet as Inter defeated Cerro of Uruguay 2-0 in the Copa Libertadores group stage on Wednesday, a result that allowed the Brazilians to climb to the top of their respective group.


    Gregory Sica
    Southamericanfutbol.com
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  12. FARFAN 17

    FARFAN 17 Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Back in NJ :(
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I assume you are affiliated with aforementioned website?
     
  13. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I've heard about that too, it'd be the 6th foreigner they get, they all being either argentine or uruguayan. It'd seem Porto Alegre(or at least a part of it) wants to get closer to the river plate area...
     
  14. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    internacional is not starting to look like internzionale
     
  15. celeste4life

    celeste4life Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    CA Peñarol
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    To me, its amazing, how different the Uruguayan teams play in the local league and in the Libertadores.

    All Uruguayan clubs are either 1st or 2nd in their groups, but Cerro is quietly having a good campaign in 3rd place, which is pretty good for them, nacioMAL IS 4th but going downhill and playing horribly, and Racing is 10th out of 15th. I understand that their rosters aren't deep enough to play both cups, but nacioMAL does have one and their style of play with the same players for both competitions is so different.

    Is this happenning in other countries too?
     
  16. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    In Chile, la U is first in the standings of the local tourney (in addition to topping their group in the Libertadores). Both Colo Colo and U. Católica are virtually eliminated from the Libertadores and have been very inconsistent in local comp. Curiously, the latter 2 teams practially had 2 solid starting lineups to be able to compete well enough both locally and continentally and only la U has been able to make some noise.
     
  17. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    For Argentine clubs:

    Estudiantes: 1st in CL group, 4th in Argentina
    Velez: 2nd in CL group, 5th in Argentina
    Banfield: 2nd in CL group, 6th in Argentina
    Lanus: 3rd in CL group, 8th in Argentina
     
  18. celeste4life

    celeste4life Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    CA Peñarol
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    So I guess it is only Uruguay
     
  19. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    alianza lima and la U are currently in seventh and eighth place in Peru.
     
  20. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    empato la U 0-0 contra el blooming! jugar bien si importa.
     
  21. FARFAN 17

    FARFAN 17 Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Back in NJ :(
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Me c@go en la madre.

    Que decepcion.
     
  22. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    csm pobres hinchas de la U porque seria feo quedarse fuera de octavos por segunda vez consecutiva......

    tienen que ganar a lanus en argentina algo dificil porque fueron uds los que los dejaron con vida
     
  23. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    For Chilean clubs:

    Universidad de Chile: 1st in CL group, 1rst in Chile.
    Colo-Colo: 3rd in CL group, 2nd in Chile.
    Universidad Católica: 3rd in CL group, 6th in Chile.
     
  24. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    A win on the road against Dep. Italia is too little too late for Colo Colo. It's too bad, because they are a good team. but they got stuck in a tough group, with Velez and Cruzeiro, and they gave away a draw at home to Velez. Now it will take a huge miracle for them to advance.
     
  25. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    If we can't beat the worst team of this Copa at home, then we don't deserve to go into the next round.

    Sometimes the truth hurts.
     

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