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  1. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    The discussion morphed. It started about who would you want your back in a pub fight. JT was the first, then Fedor was mention. Then AB wanted was clowning Fedor, cause he is not cut & had the tight, tights on. So we were explaining to him about MMA. He interjected w/ boxing & how boxers would fare vs. a MMA fighters. Then we started to discuss the various techniques that MMA specialist uses & how they would destroy a boxer. That is when you appeared. True, Da Spyda is the best PBP MMA fighter on the planet. I think I would have more fun w/ Rampage Jackson in a pub fight. I think Iceman Liddell would be fun to have on your side as well.
     
  2. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    And yet he lost to Machida.
     
  3. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    I thought they were buddies & wouldn't fight each other. When did Machida fight Anderson Silva??? There is no record of this fight on sherdog.com???:confused: Again, Anderson Silva is the Best PBP fighter on the Planet!!!
     
  4. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    That fedor guy, (who I'm talking about), according to wikipedia, is 6ft tall and weighs 233lb. To call him simply 'not ripped' is the understatement of the bleedin' century :D

    He's not 'not ripped'... he's fat!
     
  5. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    No I didn't. I said...

    So I was quite clearly talking about THOSE TWO guys and the two boxers I picked out.

    To do ANY style of fighting you have to be fit and, generally speaking, the fitter the better. Some of the MMA fighters you guys picked out are clearly very fit but some of them clearly aren't. If you're not fit you can't take a hit and it not affect you. That's the same REGARDLESS of what style of fighting you do.
     
  6. iCEMANGSCCC

    iCEMANGSCCC Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Winston-Salem
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    If you're being serious, I look down on you. Fedor would dominate almost anybody in the world, Anderson Silva included.
     
  7. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    My bad. Second time already this week and both of them with you.

    I had Evans in mind.
     
  8. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    Andy, again, you are simply wrong on this one. It's really unfair for you to argue this when you don't know who Fedor is and have not watched MMA.
     
  9. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    The interesting thing though about the MMA guys is often the ones who looked less conditioned (e.g. not ripped to shreds) have the most stamina of the lot. I am not a huge MMA fan but that's my observation on it, anyway.
     
  10. iCEMANGSCCC

    iCEMANGSCCC Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Winston-Salem
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    Agreed, Brock Lesnar is an exception to that though, he has, in soccer terms "world class" stamina, especially for his size. I think he'll develop into a good fighter in the future, but his recent major health issues will set him back a lot and potentially bottleneck the fighter he could end up being
     
  11. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I don't watch MMA, but I can offer some insight as I was in karate for five years.

    My instructor was a short old man with a bad arm due to him trying to fix his then broken arm (He was a very odd man). He was also a smoker and a heavy drinker. He didn't look it but he was one of the best fighters in our network of schools. I'm much taller than he was but I was always scared to fight him. He was that good.

    My point is, just because a fighter doesn't look cut doesn't mean that they can't fight. One of the better fighters at my school was a guy who was the most nonathletic person I've ever met. It was his defense and the fact that he would take advantage of his opponent's frustration.

    It helps being in shape, but you don't need to be freak of nature ripped to fight.
     
  12. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    No worries, cause I wanted to say Pound 4 Pound. I put PBP, whatever that means. Well that means you get the first round, I get the 2nd :D Remember Sierra Nevada & a shot of Tequila. BTW, I drink Jose, which I know is not fashionable anymore. Everyone else drinks Patron ;)
     
  13. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    I was wondering who the best Play-by-Play fighter in the world was?
     
  14. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    I guess I will be buying u a Pint of Guinness then :p
     
  15. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    Simply put, NONE of the fella's you MMA fans or Andy has put forward would stand a chance against Eddie if they stood between him and a D'Alessandro's cheesesteak.

    End of.
     
  16. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    [​IMG]

    :confused:
     
  17. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: 25th Fixture - February 7, 2009 - Chelsea FC vs. Arsenal FC [R]

    Hmmm, kinda looks like Eddies smaller half brother.
     
  18. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Not that I need to prove my point about being ripped to be a great fighter and all, but let me ask Andy this.

    Andy, does this guy look like he's in shape?

    [​IMG]

    I'm sure your answer is yes.

    Well, he got his butt whooped by this guy.
    [​IMG]
     
  19. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    Here is an bit of action of this fight:
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are they trying to mate?
     
  21. iCEMANGSCCC

    iCEMANGSCCC Member

    Jan 5, 2008
    Winston-Salem
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    kimbo also got beat by this guy[​IMG]
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    And they're fighting in the same weight division, are they? Coz if they're not all you're proving is that in a fighting style where you're allowed to use your strength AND weight the fattest guy will win.

    Well, who'd a thunk it!!!!

    Look, no offense fellas but I know at LEAST as much as anyone here about different fighting styles and the simple truth is that FOR ANY GIVEN WEIGHT CATERGORY, (if I really have to spell it out), assuming they're roughly equal in skill, the guy who's fittest wins. That's always been the case and always will be.

    Certainly the enormous great tubs of lard you guys have shown here wouldn't get within 5 feet of any decent fighter in almost ANY style.
     
  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Clearly, it's possible to simply have more knowledge and experience than the other guy but to argue that you're not better off if you're fitter in karate, (which I did too for a while under Brian Waites who, at the time, was the highest dan in the UK), is nonsense.

    TBH, people on here are simply confirming their ignorance.
     
  24. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Youre not reallly equating fitness, stamina and endurance with muslce tone are you? That's silly. I can outrun a lot of much more toned guys on my team, I just never lift weights, I run and play Soccer.

    Emelianenko used to weight train extensively, but in 1997 he almost completely substituted his weight exercises with sport-specific training in grappling, boxing, and kickboxing. His strength training consists of daily pull-ups, dips, and crunches.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-20>[21]</SUP> Emelianenko also runs twice daily for a combined distance of 12–15 kilometres (7.5–9.3 mi),<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-21>[22]</SUP> and is a proponent of high altitude training, travelling to Kislovodsk, Russia with his team once or twice a year to train in high altitude
     
  25. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I said you don't need to be freak of nature ripped to do well in a fight. I didn't say you're not better off if you're in shape.
     

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