Landon & Timmy - Everton/Man Citeh 1/16/10 [R]

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  1. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Landon did not play nearly as well as the other midfielders but that is not a slight on him. Landon was good, very effective but the others were outstanding. Landon fits in so nicely and so smoothly that to the blind eye you would swear he's been there for a while. The guy looks acclimated. Is Landon integrating fully, yet? Hardly but he's showing he belongs. I suspect he's going to continue to flourish and before too long put one in the net. I've kept on eye on Everton all season, obviously since Timmy's there, and these last two games have been arguably their best. Is it coincidence or has Landon's arrival sparked a good run? I'm not quite sure yet. The next match could/should be an indicator. Nevertheless, I couldn't be happier for Landon. This loan is EXACTLY what we've all wanted for years.
     
  2. McBain

    McBain New Member

    Dec 9, 2005
    England
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    I've seen people on here saying Donovan was better than Bilyatedinov, which was clearly not the case.
     
  3. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    Yeah, seriously, seems like the consensus is that he was "good, not great."
     
  4. babieca

    babieca Member

    Jul 12, 2009
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Landon and Timmy both get 7 from Sky.

    LD="Adapting to the Premier League well"

    TH="Had very little to do but did it well"

    Two of the subs got 6, but otherwise all 7,8, and 9. I don't disagree.
     
  5. prowazekii

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    Jun 21, 2008
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  6. patricksp

    patricksp 91.9 Crew Fan Rating

    Nov 4, 2007
    Columbus
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  7. yoyoyo2k8

    yoyoyo2k8 Member

    May 4, 2009
  8. schrutebuck

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    Jul 26, 2007
  9. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i'm not. i'm interested in that, but that's not what my post was about.


    someone said earlier that "Everton had been playing lights out football before Donovan arrived" ... which we all know is incorrect. I posted the comment from the analyst as a counter point to that. as i said earlier, Everton were very good in the Merseyside derby this year. But other than that, I haven't seen many performances as good as last week at Arsenal and this week home Man City. I'm guessing most Toffee fans would say that today's match was the club's best in a long, long time. The SKY announces seemed to indicate so, but what do they know? They're only paid to follow English football.
     
  10. DempC

    DempC Member

    Jul 31, 2007
    All in all, another solid match for LD.

    I think he definitely had more silly give-aways offensively today than he did against Arsenal. He was indecisive and selfless on his goal opportunity in the first half. While it's difficult to score at that angle and Given had closed it down well, in those situations you have to just give it a go and hope you slip it past somehow. If you don't get a goal, it can't be held against you b/c it was difficult to begin with.

    But for me, LD is really asserting himself defensively so far in the EPL. I've really been impressed with his tracking back and closing down the opposition. I think he's been integral in Everton's return to form b/c opposing teams are really having problems getting it out of their defensive third, thanks in part to Donovan's pacy defensive work. Work rate has been really nice also.

    In general, his pace/fitness seems to be very apparent in the EPL and I really think through the course of this loan, his teammates will learn to take advantage of it more often. He's also winning over the fans/team.

    I say keep up the good work.
     
  11. JonfromVegas

    JonfromVegas Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    Las Vegas
    Agreed. Which makes sense given the fact that the other midfielders have been playing as a team all season.

    I expect that this game will be comparable to his time at Everton overall in that he will probably not stand out but he will probably not look out of place.

    In the end he will be exactly what Everton needs from him: a quality player to solidify the squad.
     
  12. rwani13

    rwani13 New Member

    Aug 2, 2008
    i mean there was a reason they were attacking more on the left than the right and i think the fact the bilyaletdinov was on the left side had much to do with it
     
  13. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    7 is spot on. He had some miscues and moments where you could tell that he's not quite at EPL levels of decision making quickness yet, but he was strong defensively, provided several good corners including one that led to a post, and several nice other impressive touches that give you a sense that he'll be involved in some big plays once he continues to get his feet wet.
     
  14. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
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    12 de Octubre
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    United States
    I actually didn't find that much different in the two. They both could have scored and Donovan really should have been given the chance to create something on the play where they didn't give advantage.

    I think more than anything the Everton midfield collectively were great. Each of them had spells where they were quite ineffective especially Pienaar, Donovan, and Cahill, but on the other hand they all dug in and worked together.

    Pienaar had a wicked free kick (over the wall and lower close corner...wow).
    Fellaini was dangerous on set pieces and played a great Dmid role and probably the star of the game.

    Everton though outfought Citeh. They wanted the game more and played quite disciplined.

    I'm sure others will disagree with me, but by and large I thought it was a collective dominance from Everton rather than individual brilliance that decided the game (now, Pienaar did have that free kick moment).

    If I'm David Moyes I'm jubilant after that game because of the team performance.
     
  15. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you mean a mid-table Premier League team didn't want to commit the majority of its attacks through a loanee in his second game with the club?????? NO WAY!!!
     
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  16. American Arsenal

    Jun 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lando had great effort and hustle today marking on Bellamy and SWP.

    His offense wasn't the best, however, he did find Bilyaletdinov early in the match with a great cross that Bily headed weakly.

    overall, i'd say he had the worst match out of the 4 MFs, however, that's a credit to the other three players. they were excellent.

    lando was above average today. 6/7 out of 10 is a fair assessment.
     
  17. Digs

    Digs Member

    Sep 9, 2007
    well sure, but there is more to that than "bily was playing way better"

    Also, baines getting forward so much plays a role.
     
  18. deron

    deron New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Centennial, CO
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    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everton had some great performances from midfield to the top of the eighteen, past that they weren't much - both goals were a result of foolish fouls. Team pressure was the key today, Man C. couldn't get anything going.

    Felt like Donovan was a bit off his game and not quite on the same page with his team. He certainly didn't hurt the team, won a few corners, tracked back, and his corners were good. Not a great day, not a bad one...

    Fletch was dominant.
     
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  19. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    Sure, they were jabbing with the left and going for POWER on the right.

    I think they wanted to neutralize ManCities attack down the right. Petrov has been on fire and his crossing is excellent.

    But also, why attack down the side with a player who has played one match for you? Doesnt seem too smart.
     
  20. Digs

    Digs Member

    Sep 9, 2007
    I think an overlooked "adjustment" LD has to make will be seeing way less of the ball than he is used to. A much bigger factor than adjusting to the EPL in general, imo.
     
  21. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    C'mon now....there are good number of players that have walked into the EPL and played well, some even better than Donovan.
     
  22. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
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    United States
    No doubt the hard work in the match was done by Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill and Bily. I thought Saha created trouble as well.
     
  23. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
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    --other--
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    United States
    thought the best part of donovan's game was his defense. he tracked back with great determination and really helped disrupt Citeh's attack down his side, even more so than against arsenal.

    i also thought the corners that he took were more than solid - he was pinging them on fellaini's head at will.

    too bad the ref didn't give advantage on that one play later in the 2nd half where donovan's speed had gotten him through.

    as has been noted, some poor giveaways/decision making kept this from being an outstanding performance, but it was still a quite good one.

    everton as a whole played absolutely outstanding and donovan has fit in quite nicely in these first two games.
     
  24. rwani13

    rwani13 New Member

    Aug 2, 2008
    there was better attack distribution last week in landon's first game for the club, so i don't think thats a good explanation. you're just trying to make excuses for landon. in reality imo, i think his performance was just more cautious this week.
     
  25. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watching people break their backs not to applaud Donovan would be funny if it weren't so goddam pathetic.
     
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