Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) I remember that game. Necaxa ended up winning and David Beckham got red carded. Later in the tournament, Tin Delgado scored the tying goal against Real Madrid, and Necaxa beat them on penalties. The Tin-Aguinaga combination was a "giant killer".
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) It's the 2006 World Cup squad, minus Mora and Castillo. Replace with Cevallos and Aguinaga. Some may put Kaviedes over Carlos Tenorio, but given what he did in 2006, Tenorio gets the start for me.
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) It may be treasonous to downplay Tenorio's NT contributions (and I preemtively apologize), but all he really ever did was score those two WC goals and make a couple of assists in the eliminatorias. Kaviedes by far contributed more.
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) guys lets remember that Mora kept two clean sheets for Ecuador in the World Cup,and I know he ********ed up in the 2007 Copa America but it was also partly the defense is fault....as well,I think both Tenorio and Kaviedes deserve to be on the Ecuadorian team of the decade,because they are classic players from our historic qualification to Ecuador's first World Cup. Here's my list of guys: Cevallos,Ivan Hurtado,Giovanny Espinoza,Alex Aguinaga,Edwin Tenorio,Carlos Tenorio, Eduado "El Tanque" Hurtado,Ivan Kaviedes, Agustin Delgado, Patricio Urrutia,Ulises De La Cruz, Luis Antonio Valencia, Edison " kinito" Mendez,Daniel Viteri, Jhovanny Ibarra(they were part of Ecuador's 2002 World Cup squad), Alfonso Obregon, Wellington Sanchez,Christian Mora, Marcelo Elizaga....any others I've forgotten??
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) Wellington sanchez?! Daniel viteri!!!!?!?!.. Even guerron deserves it more than them.
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) Wellington Sanchez actually had a great Copa America when Aguinaga was injured, I think that was in Bolivia in 97, so did Graziani...thats about it. It was actually a pretty good team, but that was 2 decades (1990's) ago.
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) I see Jhovanni Ibarra and that crap Daniel Viteri on here LOL?? They never contributed anything but losses and disappointment to every ecua. Daniel Viteri and Jhovani Ibarra go down as the WORST keepers I've seen this decade. BY FAR! They take the lead in that! My list: Jose Cevallos; Ulises De La Cruz, Ivan Hurtado, Geovanny Espinoza, Neicer Reasco; Edwin Tenorio, Antonio Valencia, Alex Aguinaga, Edison Mendez; Ivan Kaviedes, Agustin Delgado Yes, the WC 06 team with the exception of Mora. And of course there are others that deserve a mention: Walter Ayovi, Segundo Castillo, Marcelo Elizaga, Cristian Noboa, Ariel Graziani, Paul Ambrossi, Alfonso Obregon, Carlos Tenorio...can't quite think of anyone else that deserves a mention.
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) Lets not forget that Ibarra had a good showing at the 1997 Copa AMerica in Bolivia where he made a lot of saves and got Ecuador to the quater-finals...I think he really started sucking when he faced Bielsa's Argentina in 2002 qualifiers(both matches 2-0),and Copa America 2004 in Peru(6-1),but all in all EL Tanque Hurtado should be on the list,Otlino Tenorio,Wellington Sanchez
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) Good players from the 90's don't really fit in the team of the decade when the decade was from 2000-2010.
My list here is : Jose Cevallos,Ivan Hurtado, Ulises De La Cruz, Geovanney Espinoza,Patricio Urrutia,Alfonso Obregon, Angel Fernandez, Wellington Sanchez,Augusto Poroso,Raul Guerron,Luis El Chino Gomez,Cleber Chala,Juan Burbano, Edwin Tenorio, Carlos Tenorio, Luis Antonio Valencia, Edison Mendez,Ivan Kaviedes, Walter AYovi,Christian Chucho Benitez, Frankiln Salas,Joffre Guerron, Luis Bolanos,Alex Aguinaga,Agustin Delgado,Otolino Tenorio,Jacinto Espinoza,Segundo Castillo,Cristian Mora,Marcelo Elizaga,Ariel Graziani,Renan Calle...anyone drop comments or suggestions.
I know these are guys that I think should be considered for the line-up,but I want you guys to pick out of them who should be on the starting 11,Substitutes,and reserves.
We'd be glad to do that, but you should help us out by putting each name on a separate line and grouping them by their field positions..
Goalkeepers: Christian Mora, Marcelo Elizaga, Jacinto Espinoza, Jose Cevallos. Defenders:Ivan Hurtado, Ulises De La Cruz, Geovanny Espinoza,Alfonso Obregon,Raul Guerron,Augusto Poroso,Renan Calle Midfield: Luis Gomez,Patricio Urrutia,Joffre Guerron,Luis Bolanos,Alex Aguinaga,Luis Valencia,Wellington Sanchez,Juan Burbano, Edison Mendez,Edwin Tenorio,Marlo Ayovi,Walter Ayovi,Segundo Castillo. Forwards: Christian Chucho Benitez, Ebelio Ordonez,Agustin Delgado,Frankiln Salas,Ivan Kavides,Carlos Tenorio,Ariel Graziani,Cleber Chala?? So heres everyone,in their positions,now leave comments on who belongs and doesn't belong,and leave w/e comments you like...Speak your mind!
almost there.. now each player on a separate line! Goalkeepers: Christian Mora Marcelo Elizaga Jacinto Espinoza Jose Cevallos Defenders: Ivan Hurtado Ulises De La Cruz Geovanny Espinoza Alfonso Obregon Raul Guerron Augusto Poroso Renan Calle Midfield: Luis Gomez Patricio Urrutia Joffre Guerron Luis Bolanos Alex Aguinaga Luis Antonio Valencia Wellington Sanchez Juan Burbano Edison Mendez Edwin Tenorio Marlo Ayovi Walter Ayovi Segundo Castillo Forwards: Christian Chucho Benitez Ebelio Ordonez Agustin Delgado Frankiln Salas Ivan Kavides Carlos Tenorio Ariel Graziani Cleber Chala
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) We're talking about the 2000 decade...not 1997. And Ibarra sucks in general hes not international material and should never even think of being mentioned as a great. Only God knows how Ibarra has been bi-campeon with D.Quito and El Nacional in the past years...miracles. El Tanque Hurtado = Benitez of his day. Otilino Tenorio didn't do anything for our NT...he was DEFINITELY someone with great potential IMO! But does he deserve to be mentioned on the best team of the decade? Not at all. He didn't accomplish a thing.
Cevallos; De La Cruz, Hurtado, Espinoza, Reasco; E.Tenorio, Valencia, Aguinaga, Mendez; Kaviedes, Delgado Honorable Mention: keepers- Marcelo Elizaga, Cristian Mora (I guess...) defenders- Walter Ayovi, Paul Ambrossi midfielders- Alfonso Obregon, Cleber Chala, Segundo Castillo, Cristian Noboa, and Marlon Ayovi forwards- Carlos Tenorio, Franklin Salas (some may not agree with this one, but I believe he was a key player in our last Qualifiers...ask LFS)
I was actually thinking about Salas barring his injuries, he might have been a lethal presence on our world cup squad. that dude had potential and was a bonafide game changer...maybe we'll see him in the copa america.
Re: Luis Antonio Valencia, news & comments (r) I have to be honest I really don't know much about Ibarra,but what I did know was that he was Jose Cevallos is sub in the 2002 Fifa World Cup squad,but he never played. I also have heard a couple of times from bummed Ecuadorians that he was the reason that Ecuador was eliminated in the 2004 Copa America,I've also heard alot of bad remarks about a dude named Jacinto Espinoza.