Marco Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by lalfaro, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. lalfaro

    lalfaro New Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    In this link of a local newspaper in Guatemala, talks that the contract of Pappa ends this year. Do you think Fire should buy him?

    http://www.prensalibre.com/pl/2009/noviembre/17/356565.html

    On several radios in Guatemala, their saying that Puebla of Mexico is interested on buying him from Municipal, they have made a offer, that’s the team where Pescadito Ruiz plays, he probably recommended Pappa.

    That same radio said that Municipal ask the 30% of property from Xerez of Spain if they bought Pappa, but the Xerez wanted to buy the 90% and that the deal died last month, they don’t discard both sides talking this December again.
     
  2. snkscore

    snkscore Member+

    Jun 24, 2007
    La Grange, IL
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    I had thought that it was MLS policy to not buy players.

    Is this incorrect?

    If MLS were to make an offer on a player, is there any chance it would out-bid a Mexican team?

    I'm guessing he is gone.
     
  3. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Policy or not we bought Conde and we have allocation money from the Soumare sale.
     
  4. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    not to mention Rolfe gone... Prideaux retiring... we have the money...
     
  5. Matt5656

    Matt5656 New Member

    Apr 12, 2008
    chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Do the fire really want to buy a guy who basically disappeared the second half of the season and who has questionable decison making most of the time.
     
  6. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Yes.
     
  7. Guatefc

    Guatefc New Member

    Jun 1, 2005
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
  8. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    How much did we buy Conde for? 500k seems like a lot (if that number is accurate), but Pappa adds a lot to the team, especially with the talent we're losing this offseason.
     
  9. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    I'm going to cast my lot in with "Yes" crowd on this one.
     
  10. fireman451

    fireman451 Member+

    Jun 26, 2002
    The Midwest
    Club:
    --other--
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Me too, yes re: Pappa.

    But as I mentioned before in the other thread about this same topic last month, I just can't see anyone in Europe paying $1 million for a player like Pappa. I think he's got some good potential, but he wasn't a MLS star.

    I think $500M is probably on the higher end of what it would take to buy Pappa. If I remember correctly, the Fire paid ~$350K for Conde . . . but that's only my recollection.
     
  11. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Buy
     
  12. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    I think Pappa is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $250K give or take. That assumes that he is locked down for at least three years as I think he still needs time to mature.
     
  13. loonixxx

    loonixxx Member+

    Chicago Red Stars
    Aug 28, 2004
    Soccer Limbo
    Club:
    Jagiellonia Bialystok SSA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    I'm a big fan of him and your 'locked down' for three years seems spot on for what I would do. I don't know salary wise what to offer him though. This is MLS and I don't believe we can offer him enough total for the three years.

    Remember as well he needs someone a fcuk lot better than Hamlett to develop him into something a lot stronger. His raw talent is there for sure.
     
  14. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    I know a team in Europe that would spend well north of that on him.
     
  15. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Probably, but that is the nature of MLS. Pappa is only 21. Unless he has an overinflated sense of his talent, he would do well to realize that he could stay in MLS and make good money for at least two more years and be a starter. That would showcase his skills for his national team and other teams around the world. In most leagues across the pond, he's a bench player.
     
  16. burningfire

    burningfire Member+

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Yes
     
  17. I PINCH!

    I PINCH! Member

    Apr 3, 2006
    Chicago IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Papa will have a better season if he doesnt have a slow ass like Blanco making him do the running for two players.. which i what happened pretty much the entire game against New England. Get a faster attacking mid along with papa and your gonna see a player who can show you some stuff when he doesnt have two guys on him the whole time..
     
  18. On the Road Again

    On the Road Again New Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    My guess is "Pappa" will too. :D
     
  19. Andy Zilis

    Andy Zilis Member+

    Mar 9, 2005
    Rochelle, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    My only problem with spending a lot on Pappa is that we never seem to get 90 minutes out of him. Does Hamlett always take him out for tactical reasons or does Pappa tire around 70 minutes into games?
     
  20. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    You wrote "Hamlett" and "tactical reasons" in the same sentence.

    Funny, funny, funny
     
  21. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd buy him, but there are other MLS teams interested in him. Living in SJ, I know that the Quakes have been watching him all season.
     
  22. michiganfb

    michiganfb Member

    Sep 14, 2004
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Si (spanish for yes) and I've agreed all season with the previous "Blanco slowing Pappa down" post. and I love Blanco.
     
  23. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    I see a lot of people saying this, but the fact is Pappa led the entire team in minutes played.

    He averaged 81 minutes played per start.

    He went beyond the 75th minutes in 22 of 28 starts, beyond the 80th in 16, beyond the 85th in 13, and went the full 90+ 7 times.

    Pappa was given ample opportunity to play deep into matches this season. That everyone seems to think he was subbed out in the 70th minute every week is, I think, a fair indicator of his effectiveness in the final 15 minutes of matches.
     
  24. snkscore

    snkscore Member+

    Jun 24, 2007
    La Grange, IL
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    Good point regarding Conde.
     
  25. snkscore

    snkscore Member+

    Jun 24, 2007
    La Grange, IL
    Re: Marcos Pappa contract ends on December 31 2009

    You can't spend salary cap money on whatever you want. It's paid by the league for player salary. It isn't money the Fire have that they can use as they please.
     

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