Colombia in U17WC (formerly known as: Crazy has no confidence in Colombia outside of Cardona)

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by crzdcolombian, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  2. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    AHHHHHHHH MARICA!!!!! jodida la cosa, arghhh, bueno... a darle apoyo al resto de pelaos, no importa, hay q ver como se las arregla Viafara pa armar el equipo.

    Yo he visto jugar a ese Blanco, a mi me parecio buen jugador, ehmmm, pero como pa reemplazar a Cardona... no se, me parece mas rapido.
     
  3. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Cardona scored 7 out of the 9 goals we scored in QUalifiers..... I dont think there is a team without him
     
  4. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    in the words of "The Dude"... that's a bummer man...
     
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  5. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Chachos, donde esta la fe ome, sobre todo usted CRZD, siempre se pone todo fatalista, Viafara ensayo varios partidos sin Cardona, buscando variantes ofensivas, asi q como le dije, hay q esperar a ver al equipo sin Cardona.
     
  6. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    The only positive that comes out of this is that he won't get sold to a European squad so young.

    I'd prefer for him to be undisputed starter on a big team in Colombia than get lost in Europe.

    That way after his sub-20 world cup he'd be sold at a greater value.

    The players are gonna have to step up and take responsibility.
     
  7. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Joda increible, sencillamente increible.
     
  8. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Think Cardona in Europe or Argentina in the reserves for a few months and then working his way up to 1st team would do him 10x the service he would in Colombia just look at James Rodriguez
     
  9. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    There have been more failures than successes with sub-17 players leaving at a young age. IMO it's too early for him to leave.

    I'd rather have Cardona tear up Copa Mustang and then leave after the sub-20 world cup. His skills would've gone up and so would've his value. It'd be an ideal situacion

    With Cardona's raw talent and potential I don't see how he doesn't become a consistant undisputed starter at Nacional in these next 3 years.
     
  10. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    It's kinda weird guys, because I didn't see this notice anywhere beside Enlajugada.com. All the major website didn't report regarding this notice. maybe his injury isn't that bad, maybe it's not true. When i'll see more resourse to this sad notice, I'll believe.
     
  11. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Un solo jugador no hace un equipo, o que lo diga messi, con toda pelados a sudar la tricolor!!!
     
  12. MiLo4891

    MiLo4891 Member

    May 14, 2007
    FLL
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    there goes our chance of having a world class star
     
  13. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    ashhhh, ni q le hubieran amputado la pierna, es una lesion en la clavicula, esto no va a afectar su carrera, perdio la oportunidad de mostrarse en un torneo internacional, pero eso no es nada, en 2011 Colombia va a ser sede del mundial sub 20 (q si la logica aplica) colombia va a ganar, jua! Ehmmm, mejor q siga jugando en el nacho y mejorando fisica y tecnicamente pa tenerlo en buen nivel pa las eliminatorias del 2014. Lo maximo q le puede quitar una lesion como esa son 2 meses.
     
  14. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    I wouldn't cancelled our chances already. In the next match vs. Spain we played well and tied 1-1 without Cardona. Our group isn't difficult: with or without Cardona we should beat Iran and Gambia and should qualified for the next phase. Obviously that with Cardona it would be more easier but i think we are underesstimating the rest of the squad. We have a team that can reach to the quarter final or even the semi final (depends on the draw). In this age, the differences aren't big like the senior and we can make an excellent tournament.

    VAMOS COLOMBIA!! :D
     
  15. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Yea Pibe time for some optimism .... the youth teams are the only reason I dont give up on Colombia. The talent is there we just need a little extra when it comes to senior level and clubs.
     
  16. ineedanewname

    ineedanewname Member

    May 16, 2007
    Iran Air
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    With or without Cardona you would have lost to Iran. Iran's youth team is on a 46 game unbeaten streak (we lost 1 friendly game to czech but in penalties so counts as draw) We won the Asian championships with ease winning every single game in qualifying and the championships, also we won tournaments in Italy, Africa and Switzerland.
    Here are the odds for the U-17 world cup
    https://www.bwin.com/betsnew.aspx?leagueids=13516
    out of the 24 teams present
    Netherlands is ranked 8th, Iran 11th, Gambia 14th and Colombia 15th
    so even according to the odd makers who always rank Iran low due to the fact that Iranians can't bet because of the gambling laws in Iran, Iran and Netherlands are the favourites to go through.
     
  17. dirtysanchez

    dirtysanchez Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    We'll see when Iran and Colombia play each other.

    I don't think one should be overconfident about any team in this level of tournament. Upsets are just bound to happen.

    I just hope a couple Colombian players stick out positively and show their skills.
     
  18. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Big difference between Brazil and Argentina youth and Japan, North Korea, China and Afghanistan or who ever you play in your joke of a confederation.

    Its ok to be confident and hope your NT does well but 46 win streak in the concacaf or asia or ocenia isnt as impressive as a 2 game win streak in South America no matter what level.

    Cardona was the top scorer in qualifiers so his pressence not being their is a huge blow to Colombia. With him I could have seen us getting to at least the semi finals and easily out of group stages. Without him it looks a bit more bleak but we still have enough good talent in this group to make it out of the group.
     
  19. ineedanewname

    ineedanewname Member

    May 16, 2007
    Iran Air
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    well Brazil got lucky to beat Japan the weakest of the Asian teams in added time 3-2, and Gambia beat Brazil in the last edition, anyways Iran is leading Gambia 2-0. The champions of Asia have prevailed over the champions of Africa at their own continent. Colombia and Netherlands are lucky though as the 2nd Gambian player just got a red card.
    good luck against the dutch
     
  20. colombo

    colombo Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    This is a world cup newbee, most likely you'll have to eat your words.
     
  21. ineedanewname

    ineedanewname Member

    May 16, 2007
    Iran Air
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    hah! we'll see about that. My prediction is that at the end the group will look like what it looks likes today:
    1.Iran
    2.Colombia
    3.Netherlands
    4.Gambia

    btw my Colombian friend told me you use over aged players in these competitions hope he is wrong!

    anyways I think just like our coach claims we are going to take the cup to Tehran like we did with the asian cup and the high school world cup, we are going to win every match without conceding any goals.
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191973
     
  22. colombo

    colombo Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Your changing your predictions already?

    This morning you said iran-Holland, now iran-Colombia.

    I don't think Colombia has ever lost in any category with an Asian country in official competitions so cool down a little bit

    btw has an asian coutry won anything...?:confused:

    My prediction

    1 Colombia
    2 Holland

    As usual don't care about the rest...
     
  23. ineedanewname

    ineedanewname Member

    May 16, 2007
    Iran Air
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    huh?
    I never made any predictions prior to this one, I just said according to the odd makers Iran and Netherlands are the favourites to go through, I was pulling for Colombia against Netherlands. Anyways Iran has played South American opposition more than 20 times and only lost twice (once to peru of all teams, and once to paraguay 3-2 in this very category in 2001, but that team can't be compared to the team we have now) we have faced brazil, argentina, venezuela, paraguay, chile, uruguay, ecuador and peru and the only team that has the upper hand against us is peru. We have yet to play bolivia or colombia in any category so I am looking forward to our next match.
    good luck, you're gonna need it ;)

    p.s saudi arabia won this u-17 world cup in 1989!
     
  24. colombo

    colombo Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    Iran?? when?? how???

    You guys don't even exist in World soccer so take it easy...
     
  25. ineedanewname

    ineedanewname Member

    May 16, 2007
    Iran Air
    Re: Cardona is injured and out of the U17 WC.... Colombia has 0 chance now :(

    lol says a Colombian.
    At least through out the course of history we have been the undisputed kings of our continent
    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesa/asia-champ-alltime.html
    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesa/asia-games.html

    while you have been 1 of the worst teams in yours.
    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesc/copa-america.html

    also when it comes to the world cup (qualifying included) we are the 34th team and you are 42
    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesw/wcq-records.html

    sure you might say Asian confederation is easy but what do you expect when you play weak opponents you don't improve your game, if Iran was located in South America we would have surpassed Brazil by now just like we are doing so in Futsal (indoor soccer) because when it comes to individual skills Iran is 1 of the best teams in the world. I don't even remember seeing Colombia take part in Futsal world cup or other tournaments as well as beach soccer. So let me ask you what has colombia done except having the most over hyped team in history in 94 where they finished dead last in their group of 4 where 3 teams could have advanced?

    Face it you don't exist in world soccer stage or any other sporting stage for that matter as you only have 1 gold medal in the history of olympics!

    While Iran is 1 of the top 3 teams in pretty much every single sport in Asia and top 3 in many sports in the world. Recent achivements this year: world champions in both free style and greco roman wrestling, weight lifting, tawekando.
    Asian champions in Basketball and Volleyball.
    As for our youth system, after winning the world cups our junior and youth volleyball teams are ranked #1 in the world, and after this tournament our soccer team will join them :)
     

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