News: Disparity in judging posters needs to be addressed.

Discussion in 'Customer Service' started by Rebaño_Sagrado, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Stupidface
     
  2. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    yes I do,

    and the same Mexico mods have even said that they try to be very hospitable to any new user even if they are not from Mexico.

    we even got a thread for welcoming peeps

    the more the merrier

    so either you misunderstood the Mexico mods or it sounds like baiting.
     
  3. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol :D stupidface
     
  4. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I don't agree there is a disparity. I really don't. I think you only see one side of the story and are coming to negative conclusions.


    I actually find his blog pretty entertaining even if I don't agree with everything he says. I don't think he's a racist but I can't see into people's souls. Maybe you should ask him, but I don't see the point in getting worked up about what bloggers say. He has a whole nation that wants to kill him.
     
  5. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Fair enough - I don't go into the forum myself so I can't argue this point very forcefully. I was mainly trying to counter the point that BigSoccer has a unfair tilt in favor of US fans and US mods. Can we at least agree that US fans who troll in your forum are dealt with and not allowed to run free? Can we agree that some US mod invasion sanctioned by BigSoccer isn't about to happen?
     
  6. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    :D link
     
  7. TallTowerMan

    TallTowerMan Member+

    Apr 8, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Guys, just to be clear, any Mod from anywhere that goes into Mexico to troll gets, at a minimum, a pm from me to cut it out or their Mod days will be at an end shortly. I'm not going to name any names but every one that has come to my attention has received that pm. DK has backed me up 100% on that.
     
  8. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I mosco this, but thats not the point I think rebaño_sagrado was saying if I understood his post correctly.
     
  9. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There ya go, right there.

    1) Stay out of other forums unless you want to make a positive comment.
    2) If you want to make a negative comment, do so in the appropriate rivalry forum.
    2a) If you want to read something, and reply in negative on your own team's forum, it would probably be better if you just stayed out of that team's forum. If I read the DC forum, go back to the Crew forum and say "this is what they said, and here's why they stink", that's probably not a good idea. In this case, a DC fan (mod or not) who feels offended should take it up with the Crew forum mods.

    Talking crap behind someone's back is never cool.

    3) If you troll, you will be dealt with by that forum's moderators. (Not your own. If I go in to the Mexico forum and talk crap, then I would expect the Mexican mods to deal with me. If I cry foul over that, I should have thought about it BEFORE pushing the "reply" button.)
    4) Moderators are, and always will be, held to a higher standard. It doesn't matter if you're a USA mod, a Mexico mod, a Japan mod, etc.

    Maybe a disclaimer at the top of every blog entry "The words in this blog represent the views of the author, not BigSoccer.com or the owners of BigSoccer.com" wouldn't be a bad idea?

    I'm not opposed to visiting other team's forums, or even posting in them. Be sure that when you do, you do so in a civil manner.
     
  10. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I mosco all of this as well
     
  11. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'd disagree. There's nothing wrong with negative comments. There's a difference between being critical and trolling.
     
  12. TrDm1n3r

    TrDm1n3r Member+

    Dec 8, 2006
    San Diego
    Club:
    Club América
    It's amazing that whoever selects the blogger still allows this prick to blog here.

    What's even more amazing is that Dark Knight infracts posters who neg rep Bill Archer when it is well deserved.
     
    LGRod repped this.
  13. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but then you run the risk of people taking it the wrong way, then they get all bent out of shape. That's where the crap starts.

    It would probably be better just to keep the negative stuff in the appropriate forum.


    I'm just wondering, but has it ever dawned on anyone that Bill may be doing it for the attention? Boycott his stuff (don't read his blog, don't reply to his blog, don't post where he posts) and see what happens.

    It's just a thought.

    As for infracting, maybe DK is infracting them for other reasons? :confused:


    As a Crew forum regular, it amazes me that we get a number of posters who support various teams that come over and talk crap. I think a percentage of that is just to rile him up. Next thing I know, we've got 15 of the original person's buddies coming over to talk more crap.

    Give it a try. Stay away from Archer and see what happens. Keep him off your radar and he just may keep you off his.
     
  14. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I got banned from the bill archer blog when I posted that I wanted proof to the lies he was spewing about Mexico
     
  15. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The stick your head in the sand approach?

    I don't understand how some of your fans ask us to support your team, yet do nothing about the bigots.
     
  16. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    If people get bent out of shape over a negative comment toward their team in their team forum, then people need to grow up and learn how to handle disagreement & criticism. That's not trolling, and the people who accuse others of trolling for doing that are the problem. Asking people who might have a negative view point to stay away would exacerbate the problem we have now, which is that we are xenophobic.

    I find it highly annoying that we can't have discussions with people of multiple teams without the inevitable accusations of "troll!".
     
  17. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Just curious - but does anything I say here matter to you one way or the other? It doesn't seem like it so why bother trying to change your mind if it's already made up? Is everything all good or all bad to you or is there any middle ground?
     
  18. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    And just to be clear, I am referring ONLY to the USA forums.
     
  19. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    thats what happened to me and I still got banned

    even back in july I got banned because people cried wolf when there wasnt
     
  20. TrDm1n3r

    TrDm1n3r Member+

    Dec 8, 2006
    San Diego
    Club:
    Club América
    :rolleyes:

    Of course it matters. Since you're the one in charge....unfortunately.

    You're the one that needs to find the middle ground and deal with Bill Archer the same way I was dealt with.
     
  21. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sometimes negative stuff is appropriate.

    Now and then I used to get accused on trolling in the yanks abroad forum, mainly for saying that the reason that Convey wasn't playing was because he didn't look very good, rather than it being some kind of conspiracy that the proportionally small, but determined, tin-foil hat brigade preferred. Sometimes balance is good.


    On the other hand, there are many who go about criticism in the wrong way. If you are posting to provoke a reaction, or just to have a laugh a the fans in that forum, then you are trolling.
     
  22. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Bill Archer is an out and out racist. He has proven this time and time again.

    Of course his racism will create blog hits for this site. People like controversy. But should that be a way for this site to get attention? Absolutely not. There should be a standard of integrity.
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's pretty funny coming from you. Just remember you said this next time you start to freak out.
     
  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a bastard. I agree completely.

    Let's hang him.
     
  25. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I guess he is a welfare poor mans version of glen beck/lou dobbs
     

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