"The highest position shall be awarded to the team with the better win/loss record in current regular season games against all other teams equal in points. (head-to-head competition)" I am against this. It should be goal differential.
That is why. H2H makes things easier for the teams... It should be Goal Differential. How is how you determine who is the best team overall.
"The highest position shall be awarded to the team with the better win/loss record in current regular season games against all other teams equal in points. (head-to-head competition)" what the fcuk does it mean? what the fcuk is 'better win/loss record' among teams got equal points?? just more number of Wins?? 1 win is better than 3 ties?? head-to-head?? what if we have 3, 4, 5 way ties, for example, A wins over B, B wins over C, C wins over A?? I don't understand the standing right now. Can somebody explain?? http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/index.jsp?standings=playoff right now we got 4 way tie with DCU, FCD, NER, TFC. Why the fcuk the standing looks like that??
So one of the top 2 leagues in the world isn't good enough for you? Take the number of points each of the 4 teams earned playing the other 3 teams, and divide it by the number of times they played the other 3 teams. That's the points-per-game for each of the 4 teams head-to-head. Rank them from best to worst. The top team leads. If there's a tie, look at the goal differential for the season, the top team leads. Then with the remaining 3 teams take the number of points each of the 3 teams earned playing the other w teams, and divide it by the number of times they played the other w teams. That's the points-per-game for each of the 3 teams head-to-head. Rank them from best to worst. The top team leads. If there's a tie, look at the goal differential for the season, the top team leads. Then with the remaining 2 teams take the number of points each of the 2 teams earned playing the other team, and divide it by the number of times they played the other team. That's the points-per-game for each of the 2 teams head-to-head. Rank them from best to worst. The top team leads. If there's a tie, look at the goal differential for the season, the top team leads.
oh.. thanks. I think I got it mostly... it sounds stupid though, I think they should just go with total number of goal differential. I have to go through extensive record digging and then math to see who's ahead of ties? shit WTF.
looks like even official DC United site is confused on the tie breaker shit. www.dcunited.com vs http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/index.jsp?standings=playoff I assume MLS site is correct (shit I won't do the stupid record digging and math myself). The whole playoff berth and tie breaker shit needs to be fixed soon. When we have enough teams in each conference(10, 12), should get rid of the wild cards. Balanced schedule within conference, and just total goal differential for tie breaking.
You don't actually have to do anything. I'm pretty sure the playoffs will still happen if you aren't around to do the tie-breakers for MLS. Teams should play to win games. This system encourages that.
So running up the score more against bad teams is a better determiner of who is better than head to head? Ok, gotcha. People just like the sound of complaining.
Exactly. While I enjoyed FCD's thumping of Kansas City and LA to the tunes of 6-0 and 6-3, I don't think that they should help determine whether they should break a tie with DCU or with TFC or with New England.
MLS exist becaue of the fans. As a fan, I want to know exact standing of my club and what's coming. They got some complicted tie break formula, and right now my club's website and MLS webiste don't even agree on the playoff standings. www.dcunited.com vs http://web.mlsnet.com/standings/inde...ndings=playoff right now I just assume MLS site is the correct side. Things somehow happen without having fans aware of what the fcuk is going on? nice fcuking way to run a league.
UEFA Champions League uses head-to-head as the first tiebreaker. Someone should tell them to do it the European way!
MLS tie-breaking procedures make sense to me, because I am an American, and other American sports handle things in a very similar manner. We fought a revolution to be separate from England, not to bend our soccer league to conform to their approval two hundred plus years later. So there.
But your from Texas. You fought the Mexicans to gain your independence .... and then gave it up to join the USA nine years later!
Just chanced upon this old thread... Have to marvel how the tie-breakers has evolved over the past few seasons, and the fact that the league itself has disregard them: 16-1-17 (W-D-L) is now "officially" a lot more "valuable" than 15-4-15, and so on... all the way to 8-25-1 (all for the same 49 points).
By the way, was looking at MLS and a few other leagues, to see how much W-T-L differences can there be, for teams level on points. Findings so far: MLS: At most differ by 2 less wins & 6 more ties, as with the cases of 2014 & 2010 seasons. EPL: Differ by up to 3 less wins & 9 more ties, as seen in 1993-94 season. FRL1 (the League of Ties in Euro): Differ by up to 4 less wins & 12 more ties, as seen in 2013-14 season! Are there anything more contrasting than the above?
Seriously? a necro-bump of an almost 2 year old thread who's only post in the last 6 years was a prior necro-bump by you?