BL matchday 9: Werder Bremen - TSG Hoppenheim October, 17th 2009 3:30 PM CET [R]

Discussion in 'SV Werder Bremen' started by "Eisenfuß" Eilts, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Expected line-ups:

    Wiese (1) - C. Fritz (8), Mertesacker (29), Naldo (4), Boenisch (2) - Frings (22) - Bargfrede (44), Hunt (14) - Özil (11) - Pizarro (24), Marin (10)

    Hildebrand (28) - Beck (2), Vorsah (25), Compper (5), Ibertsberger (26) - Carlos Eduardo (10), Luiz Gustavo (21), Salihovic (23) - Obasi (20), Ibisevic (19), Ba (9)
     
  2. waterboyro

    waterboyro New Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Craiova
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Another 5-4? I'll be happy with also a 1-0.
     
  3. Aluscardum

    Aluscardum Member

    May 31, 2009
    British Columbia
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I could just marry Wiese some days.
     
  4. Aluscardum

    Aluscardum Member

    May 31, 2009
    British Columbia
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I have a good feeling about Marin this game.

    I don't want to 'jinx' it, though.
     
  5. SlantNGo

    SlantNGo Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wiese certainly showed his good and his bad... I think he deserves to be considered one of the top penalty stoppers in the world given that as a viewer I fully expect him to make the save. The only other keeper I could say that for was Lehmann in his best years.

    Then Wiese deals with a direct curled FK terribly and gets bailed out by his defense. When it comes to catching, Wiese is average at best.

    Overall I think the game has been pretty even when the ball is in play. Hoffenheim have a very impressive short passing game much like ours. Özil's crosses from set pieces have been pretty good, and Pizarro's goal was just sweet (reminders of Klose, anyone?) while Merte's was a bit lucky.

    A bit more luck for Hoffenheim, and this game would be 1-1 (on the Wiese bobble, not the penalty) rather than 2-0.
     
  6. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We are the better and more efficient team, we have most of the possession and shots on goal. Hoffenheim are a good team, strong as expected, that makes this very mature performance even more impressive.

    Mertesacker in particular has been awesome, 100% of his 1-on-1s won! Unbelievable! He really is in excellent form lately.

    P.S.: No keeper is 'perfect' in every match he plays, this anti-Wiese stuff really is going overboard lately. He is playing well today and has not conceded a goal for more than 600 minutes now, that alone speaks for itself.
     
  7. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Werder Bremen - Hoffenheim 2-0 FT

    Very good and mature match against a strong team, one of our competitors for the European spots. Very important three points, no goals conceded once again. Keep it up guys!
     
  8. SlantNGo

    SlantNGo Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Oh I'm a big fan of Wiese because his style suits Werder well. His areas of strength are exactly what an attacking team needs. What the heck was he doing in the second half coming out when his defenders were in good position?
     
  9. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wiese's comment on the penalty (which wasn't one btw.):

    Reporter: "Sie hätten den Elfer nicht gegeben?"
    Tim: "Ja, kann man schon geben, ich halt ihn ja.."

    :D :D :D

    Wiese for Nationaltorwart!
     
  10. KyleS8

    KyleS8 Member

    Jun 3, 2008
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If someone finds highlights it would be appreciated.:D
     
  11. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Perfect result in the Hamburg - Leverkusen match for us, 0-0. We're three points behind the top now. If we continue like this, we will catch up with them in foreseeable time.
     
  12. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    The last teams (Stuttgart, Hoppenheim) whining about weak performances against us. I am not sure, if they had bad days or Werder made them look bad.

    Well, indeed a good run by the team. The team must stay concentrated and the substitute players must continue working to continue it.

    Testroets is really in good form. It is important, that he stays free from injury
    (I posted some highlights of the 3rd Liga match in the reserve thread).
     
  13. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    He was deservedly criticised last season (by me included), but this season, Frings is really doing well for us. He more and more reminds me of his 2006 form, something I really didn't think was possible anymore, and that's not exaggerating.

    For me, he is one of the main reasons why our defence has been so stable lately, why we have conceded so few goals so far this season.

    Hope he keeps it up, he is playing like a true captain. A travesty that Löw doesn't seem to recognise this, considering his competition in the national team. Whatever, Germany's loss.
     
  14. Aluscardum

    Aluscardum Member

    May 31, 2009
    British Columbia
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I think the problem is that the German NT is a fairly old bunch to begin with. Recent call-ups seem to suggest this is changing, but I think Low is fairly reticent to nominate anymore players on "the wrong side of 30" -- even when they do bring quality leadership like Frings has done this season. (I also commented on this a few weeks ago, but it seems even more true now.)
     
  15. Aztattooedsean777

    Aztattooedsean777 Tattooed Football Fanatic

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 15, 2009
    Chandler, Arizona
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands

    A lot of times it is a mixture of both but I say let other squads complain and think it was only due to their poor result.

    The difference between decent teams and very good teams is to be able to win some ugly games.
     
  16. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I am the last guy who is against a proper transition in the national team. I actually have been accused to favour young players too much in the past. So it's not the young players Löw calls up that I have a problem with, on the contrary. It's players like Hitzlsperger and to a lesser degree Rolfes, older and already established players, who are supposed to be Frings' replacement and yet have to be fully convincing in the national team. In Hitzlsperger's case, we are talking about 50 (!) caps!

    Frings is slowly but surely returning to his 2006 form, which was simply world class. He isn't there yet, but he is getting close. Like I said, I didn't believe this to be possible, but he proved me and everyone else wrong. Simply put, Frings in this form does not only have to be called up, he has to start, despite his age. He is heads and shoulders above Hitzlsperger, who has been in a crappy form for months now, and he is better than Rolfes. So if it really is about "Leistungsprinzip" (performance), he more than deserves to be called up, not just because the alternatives are not fully convincing, because he actually has been really good.

    The best players should play, no matter what age. And actually, Frings has a blind understanding with Ballack, as he has proven often in the past, and could cover him well. In addition to that, he is used to play with Özil week in and out. Ballack and Özil are the midfield axis that gives Germany the edge these days, one of the reasons why the fans can be more optimistic about our chances next year. It's about damn time that Löw stops being a stubborn idiot and makes the right choices.
     
  17. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  18. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    And [ame="http://de.sevenload.com/videos/XjGiGs9-Werder-Bremen-TSG-1899-Hoffenheim-2-0"]ZDF highlights[/ame]
     
  19. KyleS8

    KyleS8 Member

    Jun 3, 2008
    Kanada
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    None of your busines
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I hope if Frings keeps his form, he will replace Hitz in the national team. He has no place in the team anymore, similar to Fritz 2 years ago. Need to weed out the weak links. Even as a sub, he could teach the youngsters which there is a few now a couple of things, his experience is important imo.

    I don't want him to start, Rolfes for me should be the one to start. I just want Frings in the team over someone like Hiz.
     
  21. rustynation

    rustynation New Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I agree that Frings needs to be called up again, and Hitz needs to sit, but you're saying that Fritz also needs to stay off the NT, right? (For the record, I agree with that opinion as well.)
     
  22. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Fritz has been surprisingly good and especially consistent this season btw., hope he keeps it up.
     
  23. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kicker ratings (1 = best, 6 = worst):

    Werder Bremen:

    Wiese (2), C. Fritz (3), Mertesacker (1,5), Naldo (3), Boenisch (3,5), Frings (2), Bargfrede (3), Hunt (3,5), Özil (2,5), Pizarro (2), Marin (2,5)

    Subs:

    Rosenberg (3)

    The other subs were not rated.


    1899 Hoffenheim:

    Hildebrand (3), Beck (-), Simunic (2,5), Compper (5), Eichner (4), Ibertsberger (3), Vorsah (3,5), Luiz Gustavo (4), Carlos Eduardo (3,5), Maicosuel (3,5), Obasi (3)

    Subs:

    Salihovic (3), Ibisevic (4,5)

    The other subs were not rated.


    Mertesacker was voted MOTM.

    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...yse_werder-bremen-4_1899-hoffenheim-3209.html
     
  24. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    if hummels or boateng don't take this place by the world cup, i really hope it's frings. HITZLSPERGER = NO.
     
  25. rustynation

    rustynation New Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    For the record, he's been surprisingly good since the day I received his shirt in the mail. However, he's not been too consistent lately.

    Also, I'm surprised that with Frings and Ballack's understanding of each other on the pitch, Loew continues to play one and not the other. And you wouldn't know it from my posts here, but Ballack is my favorite football player.
     

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