Best 11 in world not going the World Cup

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Michel_Platini, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. Michel_Platini

    Mar 21, 2005
    please merge if a thread like this is already started....

    Best 11 players in the world who are not going to the World Cup in South Africa because their team did not qualify. By position. Understood that there are still some spots up for grabs, but even as it look more likely that Messi et al and Ronaldo will be going, there are already some players who we will miss at the World Cup:

    1 Zlatan Ibrahimovic -- Striker -- Sweden / Barcalona (this was an easy one)
     
  2. vajradaka

    vajradaka New Member

    Jun 24, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    11 Ryan Giggs OBE --Midfielder-- Wales / Manchester United (still making the difference)
     
  3. zasal911

    zasal911 Member

    Sep 1, 2000
    antonio valencia?? maybe...
     
  4. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No Uruguay got the playoff spot so with Ecuador' s loss to Chile his chances ended.
     
  5. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Plenty of quality players have already missed out, but realistically any first XI is going to have anywhere between 25%-50% players from teams that h0aven't been knocked out yet in UEFA's second round of qualifying (depending on upsets).

    Some shout-outs to quality players not yet mentioned who've missed out so far (by no means comprehensive):

    Petr Cech (Chelsea / Czech Republic)
    Marek Jankulovski (Milan / Czech Republic)
    Tomas Rosicky (Arsenal / Czech Republic)
    Emmanuel Adebayor (Manchester City / Togo)
    Freddie Kanoute (Sevilla / Mali)
    Seydou Keita (FCB / Mali)
    Niko Kranjcar (Tottenham / Croatia)
    Luka Modric (Tottenham / Croatia)
    Sami Hyyppia (Leverkusen / Finland)
    Morten Gamst Pederson (Blackburn / Norway)
    John Arne Riise (Roma / Norway)
    Brede Hangeland (Fulham / Norway)
    John Carew (Villa / Norway)
    Ivan Cordoba (Inter / Ecuador)
    Juan Manuel Pena (Celta Vigo / Bolivia)
     
  6. zasal911

    zasal911 Member

    Sep 1, 2000
    i believe that this thread is about the best 11 not going to the WC. So Antonio Valencia does qualify in those terms, the question is whether he would make the best 11 not going
     
  7. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    My bad:eek: I wouldn't go so far as to say he'd make a best 11 hands down but I do like him and rate him highly. In terms of South American right sided players, I think that in terms of talent Freddy Guarin from Colombia is as good if not as well known. Another South American that in terms of experience that could hold down that spot is Nolby Solano from Peru. The body parts don't work as good but still a fine player. I can't comment on Asian and Africa players so from there as well as Europe who has a shot at that position?
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Out of the top of my head, and considering only 100% eliminated teams:

    --------------Adebayor (TOG)---Ibrahimovic (SWE)---------------
    Keita (MAL)---Benayoun (ISR)--- M. Diarra (MAL)---Valencia (ECU)
    Vargas (PER)---Van Buyten (BEL)---Córdoba (COL)---Hutton (SCO)
    ---------------------------Cech (CZE)---------------------------

    Bench: Eduardo (CRO), Berbatov (BUL), Altintop (TUR), Nekounam (IRA), Riise (NOR), Hyypiä (FIN), Boruc (POL).
     
  9. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ivan Córdoba is from Colombia, not Ecuador.

    Juan Manuel Peña is unattached now, I think.
     
  10. KyleP

    KyleP Member

    Jan 24, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    ------------ Cech --------------
    ----- Cordoba --- Chivu --------
    Srna -------------------- Vargas
    ------------ Sissoko -------------
    ------- Mikel ------ Keita --------
    -- Benayoun ----------- Mutu ---
    ----------- Ibrahimovic ----------

    I'm pressuming Nigeria don't qualify, otherwise I'd probably put Kim Kallstrom in for Mikel.
     
  11. Michel_Platini

    Mar 21, 2005
    So for the strikers, it looks to be that the top three are, in no particular order, Ibrahimovic, Adebayor, and Bebatov.

    Anyone want to make the case that there is a better striker than any of these?
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Considering current form, I'd say Ade and Ibra are tops. A step below, Berba and Eduardo.

    This last one has returned from injury with a wish to make a point. Four goals and three assists in only about six games played (and six others as a last minute sub) in Arsenal.

    He's not completely back, but he's been an asset for Croatia since his return too: 3 goals in 4 games.

    As for other big name forwards failing to make it, remember we still have 6 CAF teams fighting for 3 places, plus 8 UEFA for 4, and two play-offs: in total, 9 more teams will be left out, and that will provide for more names.

    If you want to include names that are going to grow and you'll be hearing about a lot of in the coming years, make a note that Felipe Caicedo (Ecuador) is missing this cup, and just turned 21. Also, Rodolfo Zelaya (Salvador), who's about the same age and is already an impressive kid.
     
  13. KyleP

    KyleP Member

    Jan 24, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    You could make a fair arguement for Kanoute aswell, although I personally wouldn't rate him as highly as those three.
     
  14. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    I would, Kanoute has been a consistent scorer for years now. He's not at Ibra's level but he's certainly in the ball park of Berbatov and Adebayor. If we count the past 3 seasons Kanoute has been more prolific than either of them.
     
  15. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    even though spain is qualified, can we include Raul in this theoritical discussion?

    his form the last 3 years has been stellar, yet he won't be going to south africa....
     
  16. KyleP

    KyleP Member

    Jan 24, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Neither will players like Riquelme or Cassano. Better to just stick to players who are resigned to not going due to their national team's results rather than selection process.
     
  17. erick

    erick Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bama Nation
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Vargas-peru
     
  18. Maruti

    Maruti New Member

    May 14, 2006
    Since when has Ibra been on Adebayor's or Berbatov's level? He is nowhere are effective as the previous, who are much more consistent...
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Iván Córdoba retired? He played against Paraguay five days ago!
     
  20. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    From 100% eliminated teams:

    ------------------------------ Petr Cech ------------------------------
    - Darijo Srna -- Iván Córdoba -- Cristian Chivu -- Juan Vargas -
    --------------- Seydou Keita ------- Yossi Benayoun ---------------
    Luis Antonio Valencia ---------------------------------- Ryan Giggs
    ----------- Zlatan Ibrahimovic --- Emmanuel Adebayor -----------

    Bench: Andreas Isaksson; Josip Simunic, Brede Hangeland, Olof Mellberg, Marek Jankulovski; Mohamed Sissoko, Darren Fletcher, Luka Modric, Tomás Rosicky; Dimitar Berbatov, Claudio Pizarro, Frédéric Kanouté.
     
  21. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    How long is your bench? :p

    Not bad, I would have Kranjcar in there somewhere though.
     
  22. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Another players:

    Juan Arango (Venezuela)
    Giancarlo Maldonado (Venezuela)
    Joaquín Botero (Bolivia)
    Radamel Falcao (Colombia)
    Alexander Hleb (Belarus)
    Sami Hyypia (Finland)
     
  23. vajradaka

    vajradaka New Member

    Jun 24, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Is there any way you can create a poll for us to vote?

    J.
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If anyone does, please do it by position.

    Otherwise, we may get a ridiculous vote with 8 forwards and 3 mids.
     
  25. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    12 players to complete a squad of 23 (in spite should be replaced any player for a third goalkeeper).
     

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