Pre-match: Portugal vs. Denmark 2010 World Cup Qualifying

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  1. tibullus0

    tibullus0 New Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    It's Madaíl's fault that ALL this shit happened! You don't put a 5 year-old-minded asshole in charge of a team. Shitbrains Queiroz had proven before coming in that he was worth nothing as a manager, e. g.: Sporting Lisbon, Real Madrid.
     
  2. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Tell me about it! I would rather see Paulo Sousa who manages Swansea in England's championship run the NT. At least he's young and intelligent.
     
  3. tibullus0

    tibullus0 New Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Anyone who has basic football knowledges could manage our nt. I guess I know why CQ was an assistant manager... to actually learn something!
     
  4. CowSimao

    CowSimao New Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Walnut Creek, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    You thought the players looked confident? Ronaldo was on the verge of crying in some moments in the game. Simao was grabbing his head numerous times. Deco physically was playing confidently, but when it came to scoring chances he shit his pants.

    Confident players don't miss chances like that. Ronaldo scored goals for Manchester United, but not for Portugal. Simao scored goals for Benfica and Atletico Madrid, but not for Portugal. Deco scored over the weekend for Chelsea, but not for Portugal.

    Obviously there's something wrong here if these players who usually are clinical have become the opposite. No one believed they could score because Quieroz gives no belief.
     
  5. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Add: Portugal's World Cup 1994 failure to his list.

    But we only had a 22 year old Figo, Rui Costa, Joao Pinto, Jorge Costa, Vitor Baia at our disposal :eek:

    Queiroz has a SOLID track record of making good teams play like shit.
     
  6. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Ah man, I think its fair to say, hes just not a good head coach...
     
  7. ThespecialoneJM

    ThespecialoneJM New Member

    May 13, 2008
    San Jose
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    LOL where are all the Queirozsexuals now?

    "Give him a chance"

    "He's smart"

    ******** you.
     
  8. ruipico

    ruipico Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    USA
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    STOP IT RIGHT NOW!

    You know what is beautiful? It is when that ball is in the back of the net. You can have 60% or 70% possession but you don't qualify, win WC or EC based on beauty of your game. We ain't in a figure skating competition. It's really simple: Put the freeking ball in the back of the net more times than the other team.

    Even the great teams, I, A, B, F and others, realize that there are times when you play ugly and for the points.

    I'm sick of "we deserved to win" and "we played better" mentality. If nothing else, tell me what have we ever won by this philosophy?

    Jesus, we couldn't even defeat a lousy Greek team playing at home with
    75,0000 Portuguese cheering us on and 15 million around the world watching us. .

    To me that was an example why we will NEVER win a major title in football!!!!



     
  9. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    I was hoping that Nuno Gomes would of scored and then punched Liedson and Deco in the face. Then as he is walking off the field, slap CQ in the face.

    I must admit, it was hilarious watching this game. Even Pauleta would of scored in this one. ;) 36 shots?? LOL
     
  10. wtf_SCOLARI!!

    wtf_SCOLARI!! Member

    Nov 21, 2007
    For all of you bashing Quiroz, take it easy on him. The only mistake he really made was not starting Liedson and keeping that idiot Simao on. If you guys are blaming the coach cuz the players can't shoot a ball into a WIDE open net then you are as dumb as you think Quiroz is.

    PS Ronaldo better not wear that armband ever again and if I was coach he would've been on the bench along time ago. And he needs to stop taking free kicks unless they are from far out.
     
  11. CowSimao

    CowSimao New Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    Walnut Creek, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Maybe Simao wouldn't have missed if Quieroz had some motivational skills. Like I said earlier, why does Simao score for Benfica and Atletico Madrid, but not for Portugal? Simao doesn't believe he can score because Quieroz doesn't give him that belief.

    Simao also wasn't the only player missing shots. Ronaldo and Deco did also. Are they idiots too? Then there were some players like Meireles playing like this was a friendly game. Why is Quieroz letting him play like that? Where's the discipline?

    I would also consider having Pepe as a DM for the whole match when this was a must win was another mistake. I don't understand why Tiago was taken off when he could have been able to add more to the attack.
     
  12. FCPorto_Dragao

    Jun 15, 2005
    E DUBs
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I've been by the wayside, reading all of your post game posts and they've all been quite entertaining.

    My sentiment: we won't qualify, simple as that. Pick up the pieces and move on. And if we do qualify by some retarded miracle, it wont last long...does anyone here really believe that if we arrive in South Africa that we wont go 3 and out with this muppet in charge and a 'billy big boots' captain like Ronaldo leading the way? Whoever thinks that this scenario I just mentioned will come to fruition and Portugal will put in a good performance in South Africa provided we get there, is more stupid than Queiroz himself. I'm not a naysayer, I love Portugal, I am as passionate as the next guy. But, being realistic is what I like to think I am, and Portugal is better off not qualifying for this tournament in terms of administration and for the overall outlook and hunger for the future.

    Just look at England post Euro 2008...Holland post World Cup 2002. These ruts have to happen to stay hungry...lets face it, the kids in right now have been spoiled. Give Figo, Joao Pinto, and Rui Costa half the chance, and they would rip these kids a new asshole in terms of competition at their respective positions. The Ronaldos and Tiagos are sitting pretty knowing Querioz wouldn't replace them with Messi, Robben or Gerrard. I get that Ronaldo is our most talented player, but just like Man Utd felt this summer, you can't expect a guy with no hunger at the moment to play as well as he knows how to. Make an example...but that would too brash, too strong...too unQueiroz-esque. In the long scheme of things, we need Mourinho to overhaul this sinking ship at the FPF, but that will have to wait.

    And again, I see some people posting about Bruno Alves' apparent new hobby of...no, not bird watching...BALL WATCHING! Except, this isn't a new thing. See Arsenal 4-0 Porto at the Emirates...see Man Utd - Porto both legs...this guy is an accident waiting to happen, and why QUEIROZ CONTINUES TO START HIM AS A CB WHEN HE HAS ONE THAT IS A TOP QUALITY CB AT DM MAKES ME CRINGE AND WANT TO PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE. When I see Bruno Alves ******** up, I don't get angry at him...he plays as tough as anyone and with more heart than most...its the moron that puts him in that position that I want to kick the shit out of. Bruno Alves and Tiago for that matter, have no place in this starting 11.

    I know my rant may not make much sense right now, and might be a cluster******** of words jumbled together, but what I'm trying to say is that we all know Portugal isn't good enough for the World Cup, so why keep stressing and hoping they'll qualify? Why have our expectations so high when we know they'll crash to the ground? Just let things happen. If they qualify, I'll be as happy as the next guy, but also pissed to no end, knowing that no change is coming, Queiroz will still be there sitting pretty, Madail will continue his reign, and Ronaldo will continue to stroke his own ego in the only way he can.

    And another thing, does any other self-respecting Portuguese fan see it as completely embarassing when Ronaldo, OUR CAPTAIN?!?! is whining like a petulant child, waving his arms aimlessly, etc? People have told me: he's being passionate...******** OFF! God, we've certainly fallen far from the days when our national team captains conducted themselves with honour like Figo or Baia...like men, not kids. Not that I care what others think, but the world must be looking at our national team led by this '5-year old' behaviour and laughing hysterically. Someone tell me why Ricardo Carvalho or even Simao isnt the captain. At least they seem more preoccupied with what is on the field than the mirror.

    Its a sad state of affairs when I feel like this as I'm out in the bar or work or anywhere defending the Quinas with my non-Portuguese soccer buddies in heated discussions, but I'd be lying if I didn't say these things otherwise. I'm just being honest.
     
  13. ThespecialoneJM

    ThespecialoneJM New Member

    May 13, 2008
    San Jose
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    How about the fact that he started the match with 7 defensive minded players? How about the fact that he constantly uses players where they're not comfortable in? How about the fact that he didnt use 2 strikers, and I mean strikers not wingers? Stop being an apologist and look at the facts.
     
  14. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    IMO this group is not the group of death, its the group of dickheads
    everyone is playing shit Denmark are a rubbish side, so is sweden and Portugal are a rabble.

    Denmark has had so much luck in these qualifiers its unbelievabe,
    sweden are just plain shit and hungary have capitalised on a
    favourable draw.

    Portugal completely Dominated the Danes and the Swedes in all 4 games
    but the finishing has been terrible, albania same thing, it pisses me off
    so much.

    If we qualify which i feel we wont because knowing our ********en luck this qualifying campaign Sweden will somehow ass a result in denmark, even though there a terrible footballing side.

    What a bloody disgrace!!!!
     
  15. Big balls

    Big balls Member

    May 22, 2006
    Sweden
    Not true, Sweden was clearly the better team in Stockholm and lost 2 points, didn't gain 1. The reason Sweden didn't win that match with more than an odd goal is quite simple, Johan Elmander. He was served the ball on a silver platter time after time but wasted every oppurtunity.

    And if anyone thinks that Sweden and Denmark is gonna be foul play, you're very much mistaken. Even I was surprised at the level of hatred between the supporters when Sweden lost to Denmark in Stockholm. The cops had their hands full as people walked out of the stadium.
     
  16. SectionX

    SectionX Member

    May 27, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden

    ok good thing 100 million euro boy has choked with all these "shitty" teams. Says a lot about him.
     
  17. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    Absolutely right! We played a great game against a tough team, and I believe we showed our superiority. Unfortunately, we had to wait until game 7 of a 10 game qualification round.
     
  18. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    What you cant handle that your team is shit, atleast i can admit portugal are
    rubbish but atleast they can play good looking football sometimes. Ronaldo hasn't played a good game for portugal since WC 06.

    Grow up nobjob and face up to the reality, all of the portuguese fans in here
    are having to.

    Group 1 is weak and plays shit football simple as that.
     
  19. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    What 1 opportunity and you think you deserve 3 points, in portugal you barely had a shot we had over 20 and 60% of the possesion does that entitle us to bonus points.
    You guys are shit, take kallstrom and ibra out of your team and it looks so ordinary its not funny, not to mention that donkey of a coach you have.
     
  20. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Guys, we are in no position to insult Sweden or Denmark. They are both ahead of us. :eek:

    I'm pretty sure Demark will lose on purpose to Sweden just to laugh at us and have the scandanavians make it through
     
  21. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I thought you made a good post with some good points. Don't agree on some things, like for example Tiago, Tiago has been playing very well at club level, has been on form, and deserves to be there. But again, as with all the other players on the national team, CQ is not getting the best out of him.

    Also, you make a good point about Portugal not deserving to go in the sense that, if they make it nothing changes, CQ stays in charge and we embarrass ourselves in front of the whole world. Your hope is if we dont make it that changes will be made.

    Here's the problem with that, Madail has already said that whatever happens, success or failure, they are sticking with CQ. He has a contract that goes through 2012 after the Euros. He has no intentions of firing him. So our problem is not only CQ, but Gilberto Madail as well. Both these clowns need to go.

    If it was up to me, CQ would never had been hired in the first place. After that loss to Denmark he would have been shown the door. Hell after Saturday's performance, I would have fired them right there on the pitch, in front of the players and stadium before the final whistle, but that's just me. At this point, in a perfect world, we would win the last 3 games, make into the playoffs, CQ gets fired, a new manager comes in, we win the playoff games and make it in, and go on a respectful run at the world cup.

    But the reality is we are stuck with CQ until his contracts ends on July 1st, 2012.
     
  22. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    the world is supposed to end in 2012 isnt it?

    in that case Portugal wont win any major tournament ever:(
     
  23. SectionX

    SectionX Member

    May 27, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    look, you are just an angry English twat that are bitter because sweden never loses against England, which is the most overrated team of all times.

    It was easy to see through you with the use of the British English language.
     
  24. BGADK

    BGADK Member

    Jun 6, 2009
    No need to be depressed about the Portugese play, and apart from not starting with Liedson instead of Simao, I really can't find any fault on the trainers side in this match. Portugal needed to win this match, and he threw all the attacking players Portugal has in the last 25 minutes (I think you played with 4-5 forwards). The last part of the second half looked like a classical cup match, where Denmark was reduced to defending the 1-0 lead.

    No need to be angry at the referee as well. Yes, he was not good, and many referees might have given you a penalty, even though the handball looked accidental. On the other hand, he also missed two actions which should have resulted in red cards to the Portugese side - so everything considered you shouldn't be disappointed with him.

    Portugal had a lot of shoots on goal, but apart from Simaos chance in the first half, none where really 100% chances. Denmark had the Bendtner goal and another 100% chance, which Jørgensen should have converted in the start of the game, when ball dropped down to him 3m. from goal.

    Denmark was severly limited due to injuries, so Christian Poulsen had to play central defender most of the game, thereby giving up the midfield.
    I havn't seen Denmark so pressured before, not even against Spain in the last qualifying.
    All in all, you managed a draw against a team above you in the FIFA ranking, and on Denmarks homefield. Not too bad.
    If you play like that against Hungary, you will probably win. And Hungary can also not afford a draw, so they can not accept being reduced to defending.
     
  25. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Lol, nice. This made me chuckle.


    Wow! No fault to the trainers??? FFS, CQ started the game with 5 defenders, 5 midfielders, 0 strikers for a game they needed no other a result other than a win!!!!! It's amazing that still people this waste that calls himself a football manager. WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!!
     

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