out of business within 2 years

Discussion in 'NJ/NY Sky Blue' started by scalvixen, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. scalvixen

    scalvixen Member

    Feb 11, 2008
    Southern California
    Club:
    Pali Blues
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    looks like they wont make it very long with the way they run their business
    bad rep for the league
     
  2. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the flip side of the franchise model - give some people enough rope, and they will hang themselves. But with any luck, there will be enough other teams to keep the league going.

    But they're not out of business yet, though Sky Blue's attendance numbers are as worrying as their head coach issues.
     
  3. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    As much as IMO, Sky Blue FC has been an embarassment to the league this year off the field, I do not want to see them fold. WPS needs a team in that in NY/NJ. I wish them luck in getting it together for next year.
     
  4. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They could very well sell the franchise to Red Bull, or at least partner with them. That would give them stability, and a nice place to play in.
     
  5. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    And in that way Red Bulls can make JC Osorio head coach of SBFC and get rid of him without actually get rid of him.
     
  6. flamepruf

    flamepruf New Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    Jackson, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh that makes my belly ache. :D
     
  7. soccerbs

    soccerbs Red Card

    Jun 14, 2006
    Hasn't the history of this club and owner been about people/coaches leaving?
     
  8. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you mean?? They just got 5,400 at their last home game. That's a very good sign.
     
  9. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Look at the date of the post you quoted, RFR :rolleyes: (Aug2 vs. NJ's last home game on Aug5)
    And even the good last-game draw doesn't really outweigh their season average very much...
     
  10. A Fan

    A Fan New Member

    Aug 15, 1999
    That July 4th game killed us! I think a good lesson learned. NEVER have a game on July 4th.
     
  11. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure what the final result is, but through their first nine games, their median attendance was 3,256, ahead of only Gold Pride.
     
  12. soccerbs

    soccerbs Red Card

    Jun 14, 2006
    If you get 5,000 at 10 matches @ $20 per ticket that would be 1 million dollars. Pay the players a living wage of $50,000 by 20 players and that takes your million. Now Travel-Equipment-Office staff-Coaching- insurance owners-field rental-on and on---hmmmm
     
  13. dianamo-superstriker

    Sep 30, 2007
    California
    yeah, I'm almost certain Sky Blue lost some money this year. The NeSmiths (FGCP owners) admitted early this week that they've lost $1million this season. They did however, said they were not going anywhere and that the Pride will be back next year.

    I would assume that most of the teams will loose money this season. Someone mentioned academy camps as a good source of revenue; but it is difficult to know how much that brings to the team since enrollment might vary and we don't know how often these are held.
     
  14. soccerreigns

    soccerreigns New Member

    Jul 22, 2009

    but not 20 players even get close to that $50,000
     
  15. soccerboy8815

    soccerboy8815 New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    New Jersey
    Yeah that $50,000 salary is inflated and owners of all teams expected to lose money this season I am sure.
     
  16. soccerbs

    soccerbs Red Card

    Jun 14, 2006
    I said IF you pay them a living wage.
     
  17. cobi13

    cobi13 Member

    Aug 16, 2004
    NY
    Everyone lost money though, for sure. The thing is, they all KNEW they would so it isn't a surprise. Don't forget about sponsors either. They might not be putting up millions, but they are covering these basic expenses like food and equipment, etc. Little things like that go a long way.
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    If that's true, they're doing something wrong. July 4th games are golden for pretty much every other sports team in this country.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    But WPS isn't a 12 month job. Many of these players will hold coaching/other paying jobs during the high school/college seasons that are just starting.

    In my youth in the 1970s it wasn't uncommon for major league baseball players to work in the offseason in "regular" jobs, or to head to the Caribbean or Mexico to play "winter ball" to make ends meet.

    The WPS season is very short, and is structured to allow players to hold seasonal jobs.

    Not ideal - but they've got to start somewhere. And somewhere, as the WUSA showed, isn't at the WNBA/MLS level - much less the "big four" level.
     
  20. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who provides them food?? I've not heard of any business giving them free food.
     
  21. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is the league minimum? 10K?

    Most teams must have at least one player who makes around 50K or more.
     
  22. Peg Hopper

    Peg Hopper Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    On the Border
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard that developmental players all had a standard contract at $1000 per month, i.e. $6000 for the season. Most of the January Draft players got 20 to 25k, which is about $3500 per month before taxes.

    Coaching and special appearances add more for the top names, but not much for the ones that really need it. Off season jobs and or playing in the European leagues are definitely required to live the dream.
     
  23. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems many of the players share apartments or houses to cut down on expenses.
     
  24. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or stay with host families, as several Freedom players do.
     
  25. soccerbs

    soccerbs Red Card

    Jun 14, 2006
    Mead!! The season is very short??? Thank you master for letting them leave and go pump gas... The league takes up half their year!

    You want a pro league? That means they all need to play and workout all year long...Its funny how some fans feel like these players should sacrifice everything for this league. I didn't know you go to games to watch coaches and owners..
     

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