Now that we got the Lanus coach in the Mustang all the Colombian sites are throwing names out of a hat of players that will come and play here that isnt going to happen. Caranta wont play for Nacional. Now the new names are like 36 year old Argie goalies that are bench on their midtable to just on the edge of being demoted teams and we want them.... Like Deportivo Calis keeper Rameriez last season was pretty good and the new coach demoted him to get a 3rd string goalie from a midtable argie team that just doesnt make sense to me and the real reason our league sucks. Our teams need to stop going for Argies, Brazilians, Uruguayans. These players are better than ours and if they were any good they wouldn't come to our league. We need to stop going after players over 30 from abroad. We need to go after players who are playing in leagues not as good as ours and sub 20 players from countrys not as good as ours at soccer like Venezulea, Peru,Boliva and Central America. Or 2nd divisions of top leagues like Argentina or try to get players on loan from their top clubs like Chile does. Colombia cant compete with Argentina and Brazilian leagues. We must compete with Chile, Ecuador, Uruguay for players Especially because we have had coachs in NTs like Honduras, Honduras sub 23, Panama, Haiti, Trinadad and Tobago... I just dont understand why no players from these places play in our league
I would LOVE to see more bolivians in the colombian league. And yes, you guys need to bring in more foreigners from lower level leagues, as it can pay off. For exmaple Blas Perez who tore the colombian league in half and CL, and Diego Cabrera from Bolivia who was playing well in bolivia scoring at a good pace, came to Cucuta and replaced perez after he left, and scored about the same if not more consistently! There is gem's to be found all over south america, especially in bolviai right now, given our young talent, and players in our league.
loko - el hispano-argentino llego a nacional, no ha mejorar el FPC, solo tiene interes inmediato en entrar a cuadrangulares y alcanzar una final , con su tipico y conocido 4-4-2 si ud mira la nomina que saco ayer en el primer entrenamiento es obvio que necesita jugadores, y cada DT trae los que ellos gustan y conocen. lo que vos decis es bueno para todos, pero no es la realidad de los equipos que quieren ser lideres de su liga. hablando de jugadores jovenes y baratos, el goleador de Huila, fue el panameño que le metio gol a Maradona la semana pasada. Esos rinden y son ejemplos de lo que vos decis, pero el pelao no es taquillero como el nombre caranta o lo que quiere el verdeeee
Im not talking about Nacional I just made them an example because they and Dept Cali, Millos are notorious for bringing in crap foreign players than having a 17 year take their place I think the foriegn players that come should go to midtable clubs they do well there then tehy can be transfered to bigger clubs are the big ones u have one bad game and they stop playing you... Also look at Caracas FC they have a panamian start that got no shot at Junior last season and they are in the last 16 of Copa Lib now they also have a Mexican ..... In colombia we just look towards argentina which is wrong no good argie is going to come here(Unless its for a big team with a shot at winning the Copa Lib)
using 17 and 18 yrs old is crazy! if you have a very talented player, he is a future sale, you do not want tough guys braking his legs and toes before they get 20! if they are so so, you risk them a lil, but still know how fragil they are to play at the older level they both are product of 4 or 6 yrs of time invested in lower divisions and scouting, no way they they R going to be put at risk so soon. crazloko- you always work around the same premises? c'mon, think 22 or 26, mature players and seasoned ones, give the DT more results!
Players I personally like that can go to a big team in Colombia. I don't think Colombian teams should go for goalies or cbs because our players in that position are usually alot better than foriegn ones BUtron - #1 keeper for Peru can easily start for one of our teams Arias - #1 keeper of Boliva can easily start for one of our teams Renny Vega - #1 keeper for Ven, playd in Turkey and now in Caracas FC - both these guys have been linked to our big clubs b4 and cant be that expensive Juan Carlos Arce - Bolivan playd in brazil and is very young good striker I dont understand why our teams never went for him. Plays in Boliva so cant be that expensive
ESO ES VERDAD!!! Pero no necesariamente son jugadores taquilleros (otro punto de observacion para el directivo) pero no son hombres de confianza de DTs como el que acaba de llegar de lanus (via velez) Uno trabaja con conocidos y ademas si la inversion es alta veremos que hace el argie con Baino y el peruano (no salio en tu anterior post) Mariño. pereira tiene promesa Ecuatoriana - de seleccion Once tiene a fano - sele peruana..... Huila tiene dlantero seleccion Panameña
yup thats what I mean..... why bring in over 30 players from argentinans 1st / 2nd div when we can have NT players from other countries I prefer the Central Americans because they do well and go to WCs then our teams can sell them abroad.... I dont think Dept Cali going to be selling Herron anywhere
en el caracas tambien se te olvido que hay dos colombianos en la banca (UN renteria y un defensa altoto y peludo) ademas de Figueroa y otro argentino, de los que no queres en FPC esos de medio pelo y nombre, son baratos y de vez en cuando salen como buenas inversiones, recordas al argentino gabrel fernandez, vvenia de ser goleador en ecuador y le fue muy bien en una temporada colombiana, el medellin logro cosas imporetantes en el 2008 con el pajaro Sanabria (central), pero no se pudo pagar el salario en el 2009......de nuevo un desconocido en suramerica y rendidor en FPC el portero del DIM - es otro ejemplo
Fernandez hace goles pero donde va siempre arma lio y controversia... Otros argentinos "baratongos" que en tiempos recientes han funcionado en Colombia (no digo triunfado, de pronto seria exagerar) Omar Perez, Caneo, Marangoni, Carreño (el del penalty fantasma del domingo), los que trae el Cali (Batalla y se me va el nombre del que estaba antes de el) no son de nivel mundial, pero contribuyen y justifican la inversion... Volviendo al cuento de los extranjeros en general, Once (Galvan, Fano), Pereira, Cucuta (Urbano, Blas, el boli que esta ahora en DIM) y Chico (Caneo y un panameño creo) tienen buena historia de traer tipos no muy conocidos y/o de sitios no muy futboleros, con resultados buenos....
thats what I am saying.... I dont think these guys should go to big teams but in Small teams would do well. They prove themselves and then will go to bigger teams or abroad if Marino went to any other Colombian team other than Nacional or Junior he would have playd and been a star that guy is really good but hell Nacional is stupid and has Ibardo, Aldo, MArino and Charria all for one spot that goes to Cardona because of hte sub 17 rule
You have a good point. I see a lot of these "unknowns" perform fairly good at the small teams, then get transferred to the big-name teams where they suck and/or get stuck behind other players. That happened to Cochas, who was doing very good at Equidad, then moved to Millos where he had little chance to play and when he did they never found a position for him. I believe that the main problem for the big-name teams (A.Nal, Cali, Millonarios and Yunio) is that there is not really an in-between category of foreign players.... Meaning that either you have very good unafordable players or unknown/not so good players that are affordable. For the first kind they're out of range for most colombian teams so they go elsewhere (I would say that there are only a handful players at Mexico/Europe salary levels in Colombia and most are highly overpriced). For the second kind, they go to Colombia as affordable hirees, perform well for the small teams, then move to the big teams at top of the league salaries, which most of the time they're not worth... To put it in numbers, I doubt that there are too many players making more than Col$30 million per month, something like US$180-200K per year... A cheapie finding will go for half or a third of that salary (col$10' per month) to a small/medium team and if he performs, he is a steal... Then will get transferred to a big-name team, get top of the league salary (col$25-30' per month) and most likely, he will underachieve and/or considered overpriced....
cuales 30? exagerado, a duras penas son 1 por equipo y no todos son argentinos. central americans? cuales? los 4 panameños (el del Huila, tejada y un Gomez, no se cual sera el otro) en que dimension estas. Yo no estoy defendiendo a nadie, pero hay que tener en cuenta de donde viene el DT de turno y sus gustos....en nacional hay que ver la influencia de Chicho serna como empresario. en equidad y chico o envigado, hay que ver sus conecciones con el valluno empresario Luis F posso, entre ellos invierten y apuestan a un proceso o a un extrangero (envigado tenia el ojo en canaleros que rendian o se revendian por ganancia, mas monetaria que futbolistica) otro fracaso: Isidro candia, gran cosa en Bolivia y su equipo copero, pero en medellin dio 200 minutos nuevos y nada mas, hoy arreglo su salida del DIM el paraguayo. Batalla parece que pego en el cali - despues de fallidos contratos con otros jugadores que no pegaron en el ambiente. Pinto - como que tiene ojo para traer desconocidos, antes fueron cabrera y su mediocampista argentino que salio -creo que para israel- y ahora con uruguayo que mensiona dapIPI.
Efer I meant players over 30 years old like when we had that Uruguayan coach at Millos... he took like 4 32+ year old uruguayans with him that were all god awful
ahhh ya entiendo no se la edad de cochas (caneo es el mas joven?) o de Marangoni Batalla del cali parece en los 28 0 27? correct me if I am wrong Isidro Candia .... no pasa de 27 viste a Barone de caracas, el uruguayo parece no mayor de 30 Omar perez, exDIM y exjunior, puede que tenga 30 el uruguayo del cucuta, no llega a 29....o si? Bobadilla si puede tener 32.... pero en arqueros eso, no es considerado mala cosa, Madurez en ese puesto se busca, igual que en los centrales (es Primordial en la columna vertebral de un equipo moderno) de todas formas a esa edad y si aun estan argentina o uruguay, de regreso de alguna division menor espanola o alemana, el jugador juega por la plata que pagamos en colombia!
I think only one was really old, Tejada and furthermore he was retired or inactive for almost a year... The others, Astudillo, Malucho and the other one were not that old, only not very good... And I think only two of them were urus.
que tronco tan malo este dios mio y sentaban a arboleda por este man, por eso esque no me gusta traer casi extrangeros a la mustang
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Batalla se fue, I wouldn't mind having Marrugo in now, but if doesn't come we could sign somone like Elseo Quintanilla, or alguien de Saprissa etc etc.
los dos de santa fe como que se estan entendiendo muy bien: Neculman y maximiliano Flotta nazarith parece ser el delantero fijo y el trencito como super sub (cuando regrese de sus convocatorias)
Battalla backed out of his contract and is going to turkey with Cali getting $0...... after they basically revived his career... these loans with no option to buy always bit us in the ars