Pre-match: Albania (World Cup Qualifier 2010) - Estonia (friendly)

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by F.P.F.4life, May 14, 2009.

  1. ruipico

    ruipico Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    USA
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Where pray tell is all this "talent" that you are talking about? We have two great players, CR and RC, on this team and some many problems that any decent team will tear us a new one.

    We don't have a decent keeper, our defense is okay but other than RC we are just okay. (Especially if one of our starting outside backs gets hurt!)
    Our midfield, with Deco start to show his age, sucks and we have unproven forwards.

    Other than that we are the next world chumps! (Yes, and I do mean world chumps!!!!!)

    Even if this team qualifies for the WC I don't see us getting out of the group stage since we are just so freeking bad.

    The results don't lie!





     
  2. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    To be honest, that 2002 team performed better than this team.

    And I just want to bring up a point for anyone who may think that by coming into second for the playoffs that we are all set. Even if we do finish second and make the playoffs, it's still going to be very difficult.

    Take for example group 4, as of right now, Germany is 1st leading by 1 pt. Russia is 2nd. There's a very good chance that Russia will finish 1st, so there's a chance if we make the playoffs, we can get drawn against Germany, and you can bet all on black that we would lose. It would be Euro 2008 all over again. I remember when Croatia was winning against Germany, and another Portuguese co-worker said to me, oh that's great. I told him straight away, that would be terrible news for Portugal. I told him if Croatia ended up winning, which they did, Germany would finish 2nd and face Portugal, and you could forget about winning. Portugal have some bogey teams that for whatever reason they can't seem to beat, Germany is one of them, France and Italy are others.

    Anyway, it's going to be difficult either way. Our best bet would have been to finish 1st, that's impossible now.

    As of right now, here are the other teams in 2nd in the other groups.

    Switzerland, Northern Ireland, Russia, Bosnia, Croatia, France, Ireland and Scotland.
     
  3. ruipico

    ruipico Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    USA
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Yeah, yeah, yeah! But do tell me what did we win in the "Figo era?"

    He's another fine example of a great Portuguese player who simply could NEVER produce at the international level. The GIANTS of the game produce in the moment of truth. The only time I saw Figo play a great game for the national team, IN A TOURNAMENT, was in Euro '96 when he scored that great goal against England. Other than that zilch in South Korea/Japan and DOUBLE ZILCH in Portugal.

    REMEMBER THE EUROS IN PORTUGAL? COME ON MAN YOU ARE PLAYING AT HOME FOR THE FINAL OF THE EC IF YOU WIN YOU CEMENT YOUR NAME WITH THE GREATS BUT ONCE AGAIN HE COULD NOT DELIVER!

    As for England being a "favorite" to win the World Cup, I don't think they have the talent to hang with the big boys like Spain, Argentina, Brazil or Italy.

    They have not impressed me. They are good but they don't rock my world like some other teams.


     
  4. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    well technically wether it was figos impact or not in his era its been this nts highest achievements wut last time they made semis of wc was in 66 in figos era the NT were at its best in years........i can tell u one thing if this portugal team does not qualify for the WC its gonna fall on cristiano ronaldos shoulders n it shud fall the stunts hes sed bout this NT r part the reason y their like this on the field he is deff not the best player on the field he is the best player on portugal YES but he aint performin like that for portugal we dnt see no 35 meter rockets like he does for manu he aint gettin paid n hes the captain of NT so leadership affects everythin n hes doin a horrible job n hes doin a awesome job at ruinin the morale of that team...i wish figo was the captain at least he has sum juizo n he aint reckless bout his power even tho i did not like wut figo did in the euro when he got tooken out against england he left the field but i believe he believed they had lost but than that late equaliser came
     
  5. ThespecialoneJM

    ThespecialoneJM New Member

    May 13, 2008
    San Jose
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Figo has always been one of Portugal's most instrumental players...he played well in 2004. The only tournament he played bad in was in 2002 and that was because he was in poor physical health.
     
  6. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    We're just not a very good team right now. The way we've played, we don't belong in the WC. The proof is in the results. Let's not forget that Brazil routed us as if we were Albania. That just shouldn't happen. The CQ era has not been good at all.

    Something is going wrong. At this point, I just want to see the team turn the corner. If QC can do that, then I say keep him even if we fall short of the WC. If not, then we must look for another trainer. I wish QC well.
     
  7. PassItOn

    PassItOn New Member

    Dec 29, 2004
    NJ
    I really hate to disagree with people, but we do have a top notch team.
    It's just their playing in the wrong positions, bad call ups etc...

    Building a team you need to start with the back four, and CQ hasn't settled on the right ones. In some other thread someone mentioned of the chemestry between players. Carvalho, and Alves just don't mixe it up well, and yet Alves, and Pepe are awesome. Queiroz eventhough insists on trying to make Pepe a midfielder. Let me tell you Queiroz, it's never going to happen.

    We can build from there, we have great strengths in every other position.
    I've allways been taught that a great defense win titles, a great offense wins games.
     
  8. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    i agree....towards the end of scolaris era, our problem was what? i wud have to say. goalie, forward n everythin else was pretty much in place but than he lost maniche n costinha so that middle had to b repaired. cudn't find a solution.....okay now our problems sinc CQ time...goalkeepin, pretty much fixed...um our cd's r now a problema. seems like to me he understands he has alot of talented cd's n is trynna play them all, and hes sarificin rolando (bein the newcomer and all) our left d is now a problem again. (even tho in scolaris time afta nuno valente it became a problem but taht miguel paulo ferreira duo worked, paulo ferreira is such a great utility player. and yes i kno hes not around no more) but now we encounter a problem again...cm´s is a problem like passiton sed CQ hasnt found the rite players to put there together. seems likes to me n to everybody else he wants pepe to b the base of that triangle. n forwards!! i dnt need to explain, in mi opinion call up liedson we already got pepe n deco....wingers is prob the only spot thats straite n even than he starts n puts the wrong players at the wrong times i think it shud b cristiano n simao everygame starting....but the talent is there deffinetely witout a doubt now its all bout puttin the right players wit each other n at right spots.
     
  9. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    When I think of our team, I don't separate the trainer out of that mix. The trainer and the players together make up the team.

    If you look at the results, we have a poor team right now. What result in the CQ era can we point at to show we have a good team? Not one.

    I agree that our players are talented, and we should have had at least some better results. So why haven't we? If I had to point the finger, I'd point it at the trainer. But I'm not sure.

    The talent is not blameless. We're weak at striker, no one has stepped up to compliment Cristiano as an offensive threat, Deco is aging, no one has replaced Costinha, and we're weak at left back. Sound like a problem?

    Bottom Line: We've lost ground at trainer and we've lost ground at on-field talent. The results bear this out.

    Solution: If results don't turn around soon. Get a new trainer. Our players are good enough if organized properly.
     
  10. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    well yeah of course it falls on the shoulders of the trainer......even cristiano is playin horrible for the NT he aint steppin up...if nethin it falls mostly on CQ bein the coach n all but cristiano ronaldo shud take better leadership of that team.....n like u sed yeah poor results result to a poor team.....i mean due to their results they keep droppin in fifa rankin they were top 10 at when CQ got hired now he aint....n i wud have to say our only good match wit CQ as coach was one his first games i forget againt who but we won 4-0....ever since that denmark game when the team lost the game in the final mins bein up 2-0 its been downhill....seems like to me portugal NT is on quicksand....they keep gettin worst n the harder they try n try it just keeps gettin worst.....n seems like to me madaail is ok wit these results saying "we have to do bad first to do good" thats ridiculous....
     
  11. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    That game was against the Faroe Islands, one of the smallest countries in the world.

    Are you a high school kid?
     
  12. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    yea 5-0 vs faroe islands and 4-0 vs malta.....yeah they suky but so is estonia n we do 0-0....ummm nahhh chill i aint in hs man tthis is just the way i type. mi bad i aint proper wit it like everybody else on this website...im makin an attempt to....i always forget that this website is full of professional debaters
     
  13. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Master debaters
     
  14. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    Just wondering since you have your own unique style of English. I kind of looks like what my son would type in AIM.

    O senhor pode conversar melhor em Portuguese? O meu Portuguese é horivel!
     
  15. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    ur right tho.....i get this nasty habit from aim.....even though im not in hs i am a young'n 20 years old..... mas olhe, se o senhor quiser eu posso conversar com voce em portugues. escalhar em portugues, a minha punctuaçao e o bocado melhor. porque, quando vem ao meu ingles eu escrevo e escrevo e nao paro.. e depois de tudo uma pessoa vai a ler, e nao percebe muito o que eu tinha di-to porque ta tudo agarrado. mas se uma pessoa leve o seu tempo para ler o que eu escrevo ate faz muito sentido. posso ter 20 anos mas eu sei muito sobre o futebol sou muito amador do jogo.
     
  16. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Dude, no offense, but you got to start using punctuations and separating your paragraphs. People might just skip your posts or disregard them you unintelligent because there is so much going on there.
     
  17. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    well dude umm ive beent punctuation n shit to my posts n ppl have already started skippin mi shit.......its funny cuz they look lik fools repeatin the same exact thing that i say a post after....i mean if ppl r skippin it its cuz they bein ignorant.......
     
  18. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    I have no will to read yours exactly for the same reasons Joelzinho pointed out previously.

    Just take this as some sort of school work where everything needs to be perfect. At least for some posts, till it turns out to be a habit.

    For the sake of your involvement in here.
     
  19. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    As vezes, as pessoas, sobretudo os mais novos, tem uma maneira de conversar differente do que a maioria de gente. Se eu fosse uma professor, o meu amigo sashuna4me recebesse uma nota ma. Mas estou com certeza com tempo, a punctuaçao dele vai melhorar. O nosso amigo tem que respeitar as linguas escritas um pouco mais. Este lugar nao é AIM. Temos que dignificar as linguas tal como os nossos jogadores tém que dignificar Portugal.

    Portuguese is my second language, so I apologize if I have butchered it above.

    FORÇA PORTUGAL!!! Um sentido universal!
     
  20. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    eu sei que leva-va uma nota ma, mas olhe as palavras de toda agente aqui incluindo a mim própio nao decide o que se vai aconteçer com as equipas. ninguem neste site é dirigente de nenhum clube professional ta perçeber. agora para as pessoas nao ler as meus forums e bocado fudido....mas eu tambem estou a cagar para isso, porque eu sei o que estou a dizer e escalhar sem mais do que muitas pessoas nesta site. eu ja jogei em portugal muitos anos ja tive na frança e to novamente em portugal. eu conheço muitos dirigentes, e eles estao a cagar para a minha opinião. o futebol é uma granda mafia pelo menos na europa. e olhe que voce escreveu bem até isso sim...desculpe, se a minha punctuação ta nos sitios errados e nao fazem sentidos...mas se voce le as mihas forums ve que eu faço muito sentido que quera quem não
     
  21. Tavares

    Tavares Member

    Jun 18, 2005
    Montreal/Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    People skip your "shit" because it gives us a headache to decipher what you have written. I mean if you are here it is because you want to interact with others, writing the way you currently do hinders that. It will only take an extra 5 minutes to edit your posts.
     
  22. sashuna4me

    sashuna4me New Member

    May 31, 2009
    new bedford
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    the thing is wit my shit i have been puttin periods in the past like week like ............. that n shit in between so ppl can understand it i have but ppl r just bein ignorant n than they end up sayin the same exact thing i say like for instance imma b the first person to write on the benfica sign the soup n noodles, imma b the first person to put katso got sold for 2,5 million to panathinaikos.....n wathc how ppl skip that
     
  23. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    if you were able to spell the name panathanaikos correctly I think you should be able to type more clearly...

    I know it takes longer but people will read more of your posts if you spell more words correctly and seperate your thoughts into paragraphs so it doesnt appear as one huge wall of text that is straining on the eye.
     
  24. PassItOn

    PassItOn New Member

    Dec 29, 2004
    NJ
    Where did you play?
    Have you ever played professional?

    BTW you write better with your IM language, then in Portuguese.

    Not to bad, but please don't butcher our beautiful language like that.

    Dude the problem is understanding, and people start to read your post, and they give up trying to decipher it.

    No one here means to blast you, or insult you, but we don't need to be here trying to uncode your post for 5-10 minutes.

    You were getting better the last few posts, try to keep it up.

    We all would appreciate it.
     
  25. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    A questão não é valorizar a tua opinião, que se calhar, até pode ser bem prestável por aqui.

    O que eu, e outréns, estamos a sugerir é que prestes mais atenção à construcção de texto para que possas ser considerado adequadamente.
    Tal como PassItOn disse, tu melhoraste significativamente nos teus últimos posts. Continua com esse trabalho até gradualmente atingires um texto com total clareza.

    Não desanimes ou penses que é um insulto á tua pessoa. É só um pormenor de escrita, nada mais.
     

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