Pre-match: Albania (World Cup Qualifier 2010) - Estonia (friendly)

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by F.P.F.4life, May 14, 2009.

  1. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    the quote of the week...i dont even think Armenia or Andorra draw against Estonia :confused: something is gonna have to give.
     
  2. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Both should be sacked. Madail is part of the problem as well. CQ wanted to test these players out, and nothing came out of it except for Beto being the savior.
     
  3. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Ugly result.

    Our CB's were terrible, both Rolando and Carvalho.
     
  4. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    those players were class...
     
  5. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT
    Wow.

    0-0 against a team ranked 130 in the World.
    This a few days after we needed a miracle to defeat Albania.

    What will it take for CQ to lose his job? Really. This is twilight zone material right now.

    Playing Boa Morte, an aging player who was never - at his peak - a part of the NT, for 83 minutes in a game where we should be trying out young people? Really? Is that part of the "Queiroz Project that brings more consistency to the FPF"??? You've got to be kidding me. Yeah, consistent all right - consistently plunging us further and further into an abyss of mediocrity.

    FELIZ DIA DE PORTUGAL!!
     
  6. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Guys we got to accept it. FPF will not give CQ his papers until we fail to qualify for the WC.
     
  7. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Opinion? If you want to call it that, I just call it as it is. It is what it is, I can't count how many times I have seen Nani run up the field with open players on either side of him, only to either try and walk the ball into the net, or end up booting the ball into the stands. He did it plenty of times again today. And Ronaldo has become the same way too. He tries to over think things as well. He tries to do everything himself. It's the problem with Nani, Quaresma, and Ronaldo. They are all selfish and have big egos.

    By the way, I love how you referred to Ronaldo as her. lol



    Most of those guys have already gotten into the squad. Estonia is a weak enough team that they should have beaten them easily. Tiago has been one of the better players CQ has played the last few times. Problem is, CQ rarely plays him, and he was playing way too deep in the midfield today. He should have been playing further up on the pitch, and Meireles when he came on should have dropped back.

    Ze Castro is too slight. A stronger team would have torn him apart.
     
  8. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    It's sad that after all this at the end of the day we are actually more likely to see CQ fail us in Euro Cup Qualifiers then we are to see him being fired for this debacle.

    I will never understand the one striker system but some coaches do manage to get it to work. CQ has done nothing but make us a piss poor side with no inspiration and no brains. You can add work ethic and team work.

    His call ups are more then questionable, he has no tactics or strategies and his sub decisions are ridiculous at best.

    No one is making big enough noise in Portugal to get him fired so the blame is all of ours to share. We don't deserve to make the World Cup playing like this. It was one thing during the Euro qualifiers where we didn't ice the games but still dominated. Here we are ********** cats at the mercy of our oppositions resolve.
     
  9. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Even then I think they will still keep him. The whole thing is shady no other manager of a top 20 team would still have his job at this point.
     
  10. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    No entirely true. England kept MCarthy until they failed to Qualify. France has kept Domenche until the last second as well, they were not going to qualify for EURO but he asked Zidane and Manelele to return, they did, and they ended up qualifying at the last second.
     
  11. figueira

    figueira Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    NJ
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    WOW. England beating Andora 6-0. Portugal would struggle just to tie. Incredible how these two teams (Port and Eng) are going in opposite directions. Maybe best thing for England was that they did not qualify for last WC. Perhaps maybe this is what should happen to Portugal for things to change.
     
  12. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I was thinking the same thing, but the fact is that they would have been headed in the same direction. The only thing that had changed was that they brought a very intelligent coach in Capello. Almost non of their personal has really changed, its the same group of players.

    Capello simply has them working harder out there, playing intelligent futebol.
     
  13. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Come on guys, let's be honest. Liedson? Do you guys really think he would be a better option than Almeida? Just because he scores a crap load of goals in the Portuguese league, doesn't make him the answer. But I guess he should at least get a chance, but I'm not sure he's the answer.

    Mourinho is the only choice as for a Portuguese manager. Maybe, Bento.

    But like I said the other day, I would rather see a foreign manager who won't be easily influenced by club presidents.

    Zico at the time would have been a better choice. I don't think there any manager out of jobs that would be a good choice. Eriksson is just as bad as CQ. Roberto Mancini is too soft, same as CQ. We would have to steal someone from someone else. Fatih Terim of Turkey, he has that team playing good football. But I think someone Spanish might adapt better, Luis Aragones is rumored to not staying long at Fenerbace.
     
  14. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    What I don't understand is, why the hell Madail still there??? He was saying he was gonna leave last year. From what I kept reading it was one of the reasons why Scolari decided to leave, because Madail was leaving as well. The whole organization is a joke.
     
  15. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well Liedson is a much better finisher then Almeida, that and he is much much more mobile. He would work his way to the wings when necessary to allow the midfielder to come through the middle, he is also able to hold the ball up fairly well.

    Of course its obvious this would only be a temporary solution. He is already 30.
     
  16. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Not even then will they fire him. If they fire him, they have to compensate him, pay him the last two yrs of his contract. Our best bet is for him to do the right thing and step down.
     
  17. Quaresma

    Quaresma New Member

    Aug 1, 2003
    Steeltown
    Liedson would make a significant difference because

    A- hes actually intelligent in his off the ball movement and linkup play
    B- hes clever in finding open spaces
    C- hes a quality finisher
    D-hes mobile and extremely talented with the ball at his feet
    E- its impossible to be worse then the other strikers we have.

    Our attack if everyone is fully fit would be potent with Danny-Deco-Ronaldo-Liedson.

    Danny would be the perfect player for ronaldo and liedson up front..shame hes injured until November:(
     
  18. figueira

    figueira Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    NJ
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    We have enough tallent in our players to a least qualify for the WC. At this point it doesn't even seem possible. What we need is an intelligent coach. This is why CQ needs to take the blame if he does not qualify.
     
  19. obscene

    obscene Member

    Jan 20, 2008
    Tri-State
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    that's why it's a...
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    LMAO!

    That's great stuff. I kept saying the exact same thing during Saturday's game.
     
  21. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Drogba is such a beast. It took them like 5 people to hold him..lol

    Ah, imagine Portugal had a Didier Drogba.
     
  22. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I know. Damn.
     
  23. ThespecialoneJM

    ThespecialoneJM New Member

    May 13, 2008
    San Jose
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Im a hater or a logical person? Because right now this guy is digging ourself a deeper grave and you keep giving him every excuse in the book. I didnt like him from day one but then I decided to give him a shot....well he's been given his shot and he stinks. Whether you choose to believe that is your loss.

    The coach is not Portuguese...but as we know Portugal doesnt hire non Portuguese managers :rolleyes:
     
  24. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT
    Fat chance; Quote after today's game: Carlos Queiroz: "O objectivo foi cumprido".

    :eek:

    Please define "objective". i.e. "Humiliating NT game on Portugal's national holiday; sink team morale to a new low; flaunt your ability to continue to suck and not get fired"?

    I mean this was so incredibly predictable. He is, he was, and he has always been a terrible coach. We knew it (and many of us mentioned it here) before he was hired. We knew it then from his terrible CV. We know it now just by watching the teams, the picks, the body language of the players. They are at sea and they know they can't trust their captain.

    Can someone just email this a-hole's CV to the FPF?
    Just a quick synopsis, under his helm:
    Euro-92, World-94: DNQ (lost out to Swiss...)
    Sporting-94-96: Despite having Figo, Paulo Sousa, Cadete, Balakov on some of those teams, nothing. Gets drubbed by Benfica 6-3.
    Real Madrid: With Figo, with Zidane, with... you know the story. At some point in that season the team was so at sea they lost 5 games in row...

    In every case, you could see the downward spiral gathering speed. And here we go again...

    What the f&*& is the FPF up to? Do they care? What major scam is going on?

    And yeah I also keep thinking of England. If ever you needed proof of a difference a coach makes...
     
  25. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT
    These days the only thing that helps is some good old schadenfreude - as in watching Mexico and Argentina's results in their Qualies.

    The difference, of course, is that they can f&*K around with impunity and still qualify...
     

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