FIFA removes age limit for switching national teams

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ThreeApples, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I've posted some love on his his website and sent emails to both the USSF and Jermaine's agency Rogon.
     
  2. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope. But eff him. My dream is for the United States to one day, defeat Italy in the World Cup with Rossi on the field for the Italians.
     
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  3. Kqql

    Kqql Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    wow, I see U spread your love for Rossi very often on BS.

    U must really like him........and I am sure Subotic must be wondering why no love for him...
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  4. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Often? Like one other post?

    I'm not so pissed about Subotic. He wasn't born in here and he probably would have played for the U.S. if Rongen didn't spurn him for the 2007 U-20 World Cup.
     
  5. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't want to threadjack this very interesting and newsworthy thread but I just want to clarify this

    Subotic was asked to play in the U20 World Cup by Rongen. Not that the situation couldn't have been handled differently, but he was asked to join that team. Too many people don't know that important fact but still go on to make sweeping statements

    Translated:
     
  6. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok well thanks for clearing that up. Still clearly, Rongen messed it up.

    But moving on, Bob and Sunil should do whatever it takes to bring Jones and Castillo into our squad.
     
  7. Kqql

    Kqql Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    and why would castillo would want to switch ?
    He's been part of Mexico's NT since 2007..

    Oh yea I forget ... so Bob can cap him and then let him watch game/s from the stand.
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  8. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Castillo has been part of Mexico's NT as much as Jones has been a part of Germany's NT, they only see any action in friendlies.

    Castillo wasn't in the 23 man squad against El Salvador yesterday and he's not in the squad for the upcoming match on June 10th against T&T. However, I could definitely see Mexico calling up for the Gold Cup, which will end this discussion on Castillo, since we don't have any chance of getting to him until August 2nd.

    Hopefully Castillo will misplace his passport again :)
     
  9. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't let Bob hated make you say stupid things. It's fine to not like Bob, but he's not clinically retarded.

    Believe me, Bob is well aware at how thin we are at LB. He didn't want to move Beasley there, it was a matter of desperation. Pearce started every game and now is a firm backup. Why? Because Bob is trying to find something that works at LB and he knows it is a major hole for the US team.

    If we get a LB like Castillo, Bob would be THRILLED. You are kidding if you think otherwise.

    You have to remember, Castillo is 22 years old. Bob will be the US coach for, at most, 12 more months. Castillo has to make a decision of where he is most likley to fit over the next decade.. not the next year. And most likely he'll get a shot to prove himself under Bob. And besides, while the USA looked up and down the past week, Mexico isn't looking like a better team than the USA at the moment.

    He'll get a call for Mexico's Gold Cup. But should he decide to switch before the GC, he can announce his decision to play for the USA and decline the callup. Once August 2nd rolls around, he can then file the paper work.

    Castillo is a long shot to play with the USA. But stranger things have happend. He does have a very good chance at being a big part of our team for many years to come. He does not have that same chance for Mexico.
     
  10. Kqql

    Kqql Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    I was being sarcastic (not being stupid) and I never said I like Bob or don't like Bob....but I can tell you the movie "What about Bob? " was very good ...

    Anyway, your enthusiasm for Castillo is admirable, but IMHO it's based mostly
    on speculation.
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  11. Kqql

    Kqql Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    Which one? since he has 2
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  12. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this rule does not go into effect until August 2. Therefore, Castillo will once again have to choose between Mexico and the USA. Besides, Mexico is going to win the Gold Cup because they're sending their best.

    Castillo will get a do over, maybe this time he'll make the right choice:D
     
  13. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Mexican one. I was referring to the discussion on page 9 of this thread.
     
  14. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one guy who I think is still effed in all of this Lee Nguyen. Poor guy will never play again for the US National team, and he would be a "star" for the Vietnamese national team, but he's cap tied to us because I think one of his 3 appearances was a World Cup qualifier.
     
  15. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No.. it was the Copa America that ties him to the USA
     
  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not the case, im sure hes happy about this as well. Friendly against china, Copa America against Argentina, Copa America against Colombia. So thats good for him
     
  17. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    is Copa America (Conmebol's regional championship) a cap-tying competition for the invited teams/players from Concacaf?

    I don't know how Fifa treats it, but I know they don't require clubs to release players to those invited teams (since it is not their own confederation's championship -- and not truly a Fifa-event for those invited teams), so I would think that Lee Nguyen might be able to ask Fifa about this, if he really wanted to play for the Vietnamese national team.
     
  18. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know....Copa America might count. It definitely would count for players in South American countries that competed in that competition and even though we were invitees to the 2007 tournament, it still might count in Lee's case. I think FIFA would consider those games more than just friendlies.
     
  19. futgod

    futgod Member+

    Nov 28, 2006
    NorCal
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Im pretty sure it counts. Copa America is a FIFA sanctioned event, therefore it will count for a player.
     
  20. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just posing a question.

    Since FMF is saying they will take the Gold Cup with the best squad they have, if they call in Edgar Castillo, do you think he will take the callup? I'm sure he's heard more than enough about the new ruling, and would be be turned off by Mexico calling him into the Gold Cup but not anything before the ruling?
     
  21. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the Million Dollar Question.

    Only Edgar knows the answer but here are the three ways it plays out:

    1) If his heart is with Mexico, he will play for Mexico

    2) If his heart is with the United States, he will play for the United States.

    3) If he has divided loyalty and wants to play for the country where he will probably have the best at regularly starting, he will most likely choose the United States. Even most Mexicans believe that Edgar would play a lot more for the USA over the long haul.

    I am certain that the USSF is interested and will ask him. He will have a lot to think about. A Gold Cup callup probably won't factor because that is short term. I think it's a about a 30% chance he switches to the USA, but it'll be interesting.
     
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  22. rsvlpolo4

    rsvlpolo4 Member

    May 20, 2009
    Roseville, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dunno I'm sure in some way Edgar feels spurned by the USSF for only contacting him once they got word Mexico was calling him up back in 2007. I think if Mexico called him up to the Gold Cup he'd probably take it, but if they didn't (which is likely seeing as how he wasn't called up against El Salvador or T&T), then maybe he would consider a switch to the U.S.
     
  23. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats just it, many say that Mexico only called him in to prevent him from playing for the USA. If they were to do it again, how would he react to it?
     
  24. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    You should avoid referring to a specific page on big soccer because the page varies depending on the setting the particular poster chooses. Some people choose to have 40 posts per page, others much fewer.

    But, each post has a specific number so refer to it because that's much clearer and specific.
     
  25. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    He said several months ago that he'd play for the US if he wasn't getting called in by Mexico.

    At the time, his statements didn't mean much because he was cap-tied to Mexico (and didn't understand the rules) and thus couldn't play for the US.

    But, it at least showed an interest.

    I think he knows the USSF knows they blew it with him. It's no secret Sunil Gulati, who has a Mexican wife, REALLY wants to get more Mexican-Americans on the national team.

    It's also no secret that the US really wanted Torres and Orozco to avoid the same mistakes it had with Castillp.

    So maybe he feels like his situation has been addressed and that the USSF knows they goofed with him and there's been enough "our bad" from the USSF that he's willing to let the past slide.

    Especially since, ya know, his chances of playing LB with the US are so much better.

    As I've said before, I'm happy to be part of a delegation to go down to Mexico City or Las Cruces, whichever place Castillo is in the next few days, and take him out for a great dinner and a night on the town to help lure him to the US. Hell, we ought to get some of the boosters from some big SEC or Big 12 school involved. They certainly know how to woo recruits their direction!
     

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