FIFA removes age limit for switching national teams

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ThreeApples, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    I assume this is effective immediately, or is there some other implementation time-line?

    Could Arturo Alvarez play for ES this weekend or next week (if it was logistically possible and they wanted to play him)?

    I'm sure Alvarez would have preferred FIFA made this change 6 months ago (or before that).
     
  2. rossonero4life

    rossonero4life New Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    I don't think he would be eligible to play for El Salvador just yet. Remember that all national teams must submit a 25 man roster a week prior to each match.

    Hopefully El Salvador will be able to withstand the pressure and get points to still be alive in the WCQ, if not I believe it would be too late for Arturo Alvarez's call up to the national team.
     
  3. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can make changes to the rosterasap.. we added Clark right before the CRC game. I believe fifa has to review any proposed switch and that could take a week or two.
     
  4. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He would have to apply (or re-apply, as the case may be) for a change of associations. I'm not sure how long it usually takes for that clearance to go through.
     
  5. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Clark was likely on some provisional 40 or 60 or 100 player list that the US must have submitted to Concacaf or Fifa or whomever. so the idea of calling him in to replace Hejduk or Edu (whomever it was that was injured and pulled off the 23 or 18 man "official" gameday roster) isn't a real issue, one would assume.

    currently, I'd imagine that Alvarez likely isn't on any provisional lists for ES since (in Jan or Feb or whenever) he was ruled ineligible for ES by Fifa.

    I do think it is highly unlikely we'll see Alvarez in an ES kit in June (but I don't know, maybe ES can fast-track the paper work with FIFA since they seemed to have asked about him right before the Hex started -- so Concacaf/Fifa should know about their interest in using the player). but I do think there is a fairly good chance we could see Alvarez playing for ES by August/Sept.
     
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really think that if Castillo doesn't play for Mexico this weekend, there is a very good chance he plays for us in the near future. Call it a hunch. BB and everyone at USSF knows we are desperate at LB, I am sure that it has been discussed already.
     
  7. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So he is with Mexico? on that ESPN link I didn't think I saw his name.
     
  8. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard he got called in by Mexico to replace some injured guy but I am not too sure about that.

    I would love to know if someone can verify that..
     
  9. dcole

    dcole Member+

    May 27, 2005
    That was last round. He was called in to replace Dos Santos, but claimed to have lost his passport, making him unable to travel with the team. I don't beleive that he has been called in for the coming matches.
     
  10. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    haha, sounds like he wants to be american after all.
     
  11. Panfilo

    Panfilo Member+

    May 9, 2003
    INLAND EMPIRE
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That was a made up story to feed to the media.

    Its known that he has legal problems in Mexico that he has to deal with.

    Not paying child support and not paying for a Hummer he purchased. :p

    He had to deal with those problems and couldn't leave the country.
     
  12. dcole

    dcole Member+

    May 27, 2005
    That's a capital H. Not paying for the lower case kind is preferable.

    The rumor was that his ex-wife hid his passport to mess with him.
     
  13. smithfan

    smithfan Member+

    Aug 14, 2005
    Waimoana
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This rule will hurt every federation with a large amount of immigrants. Germany and Switzerland have already criticised the decision. I guess, criticism by contries like France, England, Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium etc will only be a matter of time too.
     
  14. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, being that I'm 100% American, I couldn't be happier to level the playing field.
     
  15. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't think so. To the extent that it will hurt the "power" teams, it will be more because of lifting up their competition (by providing more access to cast-offs) than it will by losing players they want to keep.

    For instance, losing Alvarez wouldn't hurt us so much because he would no longer be available for us, given that there's no indication he's likely to figure in any coach's plans. Rather, it would hurt us because it would strengthen the competition in our region (though, coming as it does after a match at El Salvador, it might help us by making other teams' qualification more difficult).
     
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  16. Gavroche

    Gavroche New Member

    Mar 10, 2009
    I think that the main effect will be a general leveling of the playing field. A guy like Alvarez might be a third-tier guy for the U.S., but he could still be better than El Salvador's #1 guy. This rule would not apply exactly to a guy like Sebastien Bassong, but it's the same concept. He's a fringe player for France but an upgrade for Cameroon.
     
  17. Jacobo J-Ram

    Jacobo J-Ram Member

    Jan 20, 2007
    does anyone know if the grandparent rule still applies?
    i remember reading if a player had one grandparent from that country they were still eligible
    example would be nery castillo being eligible for italy (pre mexico)
     
  18. supercooper

    supercooper Red Card

    Jun 23, 2008
    What about Jermaine Jones (Schalke) playing for the US? He qualifies now, right? What a coup that would be...
     
  19. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    FIFA imposed the limit of 21 years old about four years ago, correct?

    So now doesn't this switch it back to exactly the way it was before?
     
  20. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia
    i think you couldn't switch at all before that if you played for any youth team.
     
  21. Wessoman

    Wessoman Member+

    Sep 26, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, at least now we can cap Augustin Viana....:D At least he would be a better LB than Beasley is.
     
  22. dwsmith1972

    dwsmith1972 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 11, 2007
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uh oh....Boca and Gooch could have to defend Bobby Zamora in Trinidad this fall? The YA forum folks wll go crazy.
     
  23. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol gold :D

    I hope we can get E Castillo at least in for a look, i mean look at his damn competition. Im surprised there hasnt been any BS walk-ons for left back yet, theyd have a pretty good chance. Castillo i think would walk into the spot (assuming we keep shafting Spector, we're pretty good at that).

    and that Jermaine Jones guy, he's apparently pretty good isnt he? oh would be a dream....
     
  24. sportscribe

    sportscribe Member

    Jul 2, 2007
    He's been capped by the German National team. :)
     
  25. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    My question is what country was this rule changed for? Someone must benefit from this (not us) and I'd like to know who it is
     

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