hes alright but he disappears in some games alot such as versus chile in quito..even with liga and tenorio i havent seen him score in a while hes had a goalscoring haitus for a while now say march 2007 in the friendly versus mexico where aragon ********ed up and let in 4goal from the mexicans lol and benitez and caicedo arent horrible they just need to finish their jobs which is coring plus even the worlds best footballers have missed up easier goals than those by the two soo,...we have to chill everyone has their bad days
David Quiroz is injured and can't play for the NT for the next two games....I think it's obvious this screams out URRUTIA!! If not we're most likely going to see Quinonez or (worse) Hidalgo starting against Peru...and that will mean our mid's going to be defensively weak...on top of our DEFENDERS already being weak. That doesn't help our chances to qualify. Urrutia is the best and only decision Vizuete should make as of now.
is it me or does fernando hidalgo get too many chances with the sele he sucks everytime he has the ball he loses it to the other team he can not run with the ball which is what hes suppose to do because hes a midfielder..and i would like to see other strikers like jorge ladines or narciso mina ive never really seen them play before but might make the difference we need for la sele and in defence we couldve tried some new names how about jairo montano how is he , oscar bagui isnt bad in my opinion hes better than guagua or what about jose perlaza
Jairo Montano, Oscar Bagui, and Fernando Hidalgo hahahah....they're all horrible players who should never think of playing in a NT...they're the reason Barcelona is in 10th place in the local tournament. I mean dude, they struggle in the local tournament...what would make anyone think they're NT quality?? The only good defenders Ecuador has at the moment are the ones Vizuete called up this time for the NT, excluding Guagua. maybe Wilson Folleco...but not now, sometime in the near future. Ladines has pretty good games coming off the bench for El Nacional here and there but until he starts with El Nacional and consistently has good games I wouldn't give him a try, especially for high leveled games like a World Cup Qualifier. He's just out of the question. I thought Vizuete would call up Narciso Mina but he didn't. It disappointed me b/c I think he deserves a chance instead of Palacios. We've all seen what Palacios has done so far and frankly, it's nothing. I think Mina could offer more than him.
good point i think jairo montano is also pretty old now too like 30 or so not a good future propsect either..but at the moment i would say that if oscar bagui got a bit more work and fixed his flaws i think he would be a bit better..i only really have seen him screw up agisnt mexico in copa america 2007 when he passed the ball to nery castillo who then scored from his mistake..but the rest was mosttly espinozas fault and hurtado..but i think he wouldnt be a bad option in our nt he played a solid game agisnt venezeula back in quito in 07 and agisnt peru as well in november that year..besides hes way better than others vizeute has brought cough cough carlos castro ,guagua..and what about jose perlaza ive never seen him play before but i recall him being names on suarez list for the players to go to germany 2006
hurtado and espinoza clearly are too old, yet they keep getting called up. what is interesting here is that even though we know they dont belong...when they're not there, we underperform...when they are there, its a toss up to see what type of defense we'll see...frankly, its baffling. look at when hurtado left the venezuela game, the whole team collapsed. against argentina the defense was solid until the very end, and it collapsed in the last 10 minutes. against paraguay and brazil, ni se diga....ecuador's biggest headache is the defense.
Urutia is not the same anymore. He's in a slump. so, yea, we're gonna have to play against Peru with what we have. and pray for the best... I agree Hidalgo and Palacios suck big time! Vizuete called the wrong players vs el salvador. he could have called Juan Carlos Paredes Dep Cuenca who is a speedster.. let's start praying...
yupp lets cross our fingers that those peruanos dont give us a run for our money..but honestly what worries me the most is our defence to be honest..we may be related to the colombians one way or another but we definately dont have their defense but then again they dont use their defence to their benefit either so might as well stick with what we have
We should make it a rule that if you are given a chance to debut in the NT and you give 110% like Mina, Valencia and Noboa did then you are on the seleccion list. if not you have 1 year to get better. Let's hope our defense wakes up... Elizaga Reasco, Campos, Fleitas, Mina Castillo Ayovi ??? Noboa Teno and Rojas
I don't know if you watch Ecuador's Local Tournament but I watch just about every game and have seen Bagui and Perlaza's performances. To be honest Perlaza has done ok in the few games hes had with Barcelona....but he's not NT material. And Bagui is one of Barcelona's worst players and biggest flaws. The only reason Bagui has been starting in Barcelona this year is b/c Benito Floro is a complete ignorant who allowed it. Bagui is horrible. Before Bagui I'd DEFINITELY have Wilson Folleco, this kid is the future Right Back. I'm pretty sure anyone votes for him hands down as being Reasco's replacement. And besides Jario Campos we have no one to replace Hurtado and Espinoza...maybe Deison Mendez in the next Qualifiers but not now....and notice that im saying this before the game against Peru. My perspective about Campos in the NT could change if he has a horrible performance against Peru. He's one of favorite players in Liga and now is his chance to show what he's got. He's shown it in Libertadores, World Cup of Clubs, our Local Tournament...now he's got to do it for our NT.
Yeah our defense is ONE of our biggest headaches BUT if our forwards would score a few goals out of the MILLIONS of opportunities they have then our defense wouldn't look so bad to us.... Brazil and Paraguay scored their one goal against us b/c of ONE defensive mistake we made. But we didn't score on them b/c of MILLIONS of OFFENSIVE MISTAKES (goals not put behind the net) committed by Benitez, Guerron, and Caicedo. Basically if we would have scored those 5 million goals against Brazil and Paraguay we wouldn't be complaining about the ONE and only goal they scored.
i have to admit that goal agsint brazil and paraguay werent cevallos is fault because if you see a clip of the brazil vs ecuador match espinoza leaves a space near the edge of the box where julio baptista takes advantage and scores..then he trys to play off with a ground tackle that never even touched the ball and came right after the he shot the ball..and as well agiasnt paraguay he tryed doing another slide tackle which failed and paraguays two point men were left alone unfront of cevallos who couldnt reach for the ball that was shot in the roof of the net..so to me it seems are defensive problems always surround espinoza who tries doing too much..honestly i dont trust him
Exactly....La Sombra is learning bad habits playing in Barcelona....that's what happens when you go to that team, your futbol skills decline.
yupp thats a good point thats why they have mediocre defenders like carlos castro ..but no matter what anyone says i would still give bagui a chance he seems interesting besides i still havent seen his mistakes for braca to be honest so id give him maybe a few mor echances to redeem himself for ecuador..but thats true i have heard barcelona ends many players in the selecsion is careers because they lose thier playing styles infact ive heard that happened to cristian lara,edmundo zura,clever chala,and a few others but i guess this doesnt apply to fernando hidalgo cuz hes just garbage lmao
bagui has had chances on the NT....remember the copa america? he was decent, at best... as for espinoza, he was MUCH better when he was with Vitesse...its almost as if he needs a higher level of playing to keep up his defending abilities. i mean, at his age, it might make sense, but i don't really know. then he went to cruziero and wasn't he captain there for a little while...
ya good point i think what screwed up espnoza was leaving those higher profile clubs because now when he returned to ecuador to play for a barcelona that was already struggling it changed his defending skillis and made them a bit shitier?lol thats what i think ..but then again i was never very fond of him anyways but bagui i think is at most decent because comon were ecuador were not going to find defenders at the stature of maicon or zanetti maybe in a few years but not right now and as for espinoza and bagui i think their way better than vizuetes other option for la sele such as carlos castro..that was a huge mistake lmfao ...am i right?
Quito En Parcayacu, la prensa deportiva tuvo acceso a la práctica en la que se vio el primer bosquejo del equipo con el que los tricolores pretenden asaltar el Monumental. Un equipo bastante interesante se contempló en el cuartel general de La Tri. En el arco estuvo Marcelo Elizaga, aunque vale recordar que el mismo Vizuete afirmó que de aquí al viernes, todos tendrán su oportunidad, ya que el nivel de Banguera y de Mora, no le garantizan un lugar al golero del Bombillo. El mediocampo de momento luce muy sólido. Méndez y Castillo será la dupla de volantes mixtos, mientras que por la izquierda estará Ayoví, dejándole la derecha al explosivo (pero de presente apagado) Joffre Guerrón. Sin duda que la dupla de atacantes ilusiona. Pese a que no llega con mucho ritmo, Carlos Tenorio es garantía de peso ofensivo, y el ‘Demoledor’ estuvo acompañado por la revelación de la temporada anterior y sensación de la actual con Emelec, Joao Rojas. Este es el primer ensayo de Vizuete: Marcelo Elizaga; Néicer Reasco, Jorge Guagua, Marcelo Fleitas e Isaac Mina; Joffre Guerrón, Édison Méndez, Segundo Castillo y Walter Ayoví; Joao Rojas y Carlos Tenorio. (DEO) www.futbolecuador.com I don't understand what Vizuete is doing with this line up....I thought Joffre Guerron and Edison Mendez were suspended for the game against Peru. Not too sure about Guerron but I'm pretty positive Mendez was out for sure. Anybody know who is exactly suspended?? I thought it was : Hurtado, Espinoza, Valencia, Mendez, Guerron, Caicedo....
EXCLUSIVO. VISUETE ENSAYA UNA NUEVA ONCENA | Fecha : 2009-06-04 11:37:28 | Hace pocos minutos de este día jueves por la mañana, futbolecuador.com ha podido conocer, en exclusiva, que el entrenador Sixto Vizuete ha ensayado una nueva formación titular con la Selección. Quito-Ecuador. Después de dos entrenamientos sin la presencia de la prensa, el profesor Sixto Vizuete poco a poco va definiendo el equipo que definitivamente se presentará el próximo domingo en la ciudad de Lima ante Perú. Dos novedades muy importantes, dentro del último y al parecer definitivo equipo que Vizuete ensayó con la Tricolor, serían las presencias de los jóvenes Jefferson Montero y Joao Rojas en la formación estelar. Además de los juveniles, quienes se han ganado un espacio como titulares para un choque definitivo a pulso, todo apunta a que el defensa central uruguayo-ecuatoriano, Marcelo Fleitas, también arrancará como estelar en este duelo. Por lo demás no se topa la base, y los jugadores que desde el pasado miércoles ya aparecieron como los predilectos del entrenador ecuatoriano en los entrenamientos, han sido ratificados tras los dos últimos ensayos. Así, esta es la nueva oncena de Ecuador: Marcelo Elizaga; Neicer Reasco, Jorge Guagua, Marcelo Fleitas y Walter Ayoví; Segundo Castillo, Edison Méndez, Cristian Noboa y Jefferson Montero; Carlos Tenorio y Joao Rojas. (LAOH)
ya i miss theold guerron i have no idea wtf happened to him..when he got transferred to getafe(pretty mediocre team) thats where he lost his good playing skills and he lost his form now hes just at average at most because hes even stingier than before he doesnt even pass the ball when its suppose to be the appropriate time and passes the ball at the inappropriate time