Current standings for the World Cup 2010 Qualifying in South America: Paraguay 24 Brazil 21 Chile 20 Argentina 19 Uruguay 17 Colombia 14 Ecuador 14 Venezuela 13 Bolivia 12 Peru 7 Final standings for World Cup 2006 Qualifying: Brazil 34 Argentina 34 Ecuador 28 Paraguay 28 Uruguay 25 Colombia 24 Chile 22 Venezuela 18 Peru 18 Bolivia 14 Final standings for World Cup 2002 Qualifying: Argentina 43 Ecuador 31 Brazil 30 Paraguay 30 Uruguay 27 Colombia 27 Bolivia 18 Peru 16 Venezuela 16 Chile 12 If the last two World Cup Qualifying stages are any indication, we would probably need between 25-27 points to wrap up at least the fifth spot for the playoffs. We have six remaining games worth a total of 18 points. The next game against Peru in Lima, should be an indication of where we are headed during this round of qualifying. If we win we could go on a roll in Quito to face Argentina who we have beaten there in the past. Although Peru is in last place, they will probably try to play spoiler especially because its against Ecuador.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru your totally right...I say the best thing we could probably do is win 4 games...and possibly tie 1, then we would be in it for sure. We are currently at 14 points and whoever thinks a tie or loss against Peru is going to be ok, YOU NEED TO GET OFF WHAT YOUR SMOKING. With a tie or loss we're gone and can say bye bye to WC 2010. I think the best things we can do are: win against Peru (+3 pts) AWAY win against Arg. (+3 pts) HOME win against Bol. (+3 pts) AWAY win against Uru. (+ 3 pts) HOME now in the last 2 WCQ: we defeat Peru (for WC 02) and tied (for WC 06) we loss at home vs Arg (for WC 02) and defeat them (for WC 06) we defeat Bolivia both times (for WC 02 and WC 06) we tied Uruguay both times (for WC 02 and WC 06) So basically anything can happen against Peru and Arg. And against Bolivia we always win, but they will also want to spoil our fun. And we seem to ALWAYS have a problem defeating Uruguay at home which will be something extremely difficult to change. Against Colombia, I'll be realistic....we're gonna loose, maybe even by a goleada. And against Chile AWAY we have tied the last two times but THIS CHILE of today is a lot tougher and will most likely already be qualified by then and will want to SPOIL our fun too. To sum up, if we loss or EVEN TIE any of the following games against Peru, Argentina, Bolivia, or Uruguay....we're OUT. And that's being realistic.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Um, what are you smoking? Colombia has scored SIX goals in the 12 games so far. Same number of goals as Peru. After them, Ecuador and Venezuela are tied for the next fewest number of goals scored: 14. Realistically we may not beat them, but it sure as hell won't be a goleada. They have a good defensive play, but that's probably all they have going for them.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru We must add to this factor that Chile is a contender this time around. Other team's results are going to play major factor as well.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru I agree, the next game against Peru in Lima, the home game against Argentina, the away game against Bolivia, and the home game against Uruguay are important games, as they present challenges yet we have done well in those games in past qualifiers. As to the game against Colombia, it will be tough, as they also will be in the hunt for the last spot. If Chile is qualified by the time we have to play them, I am assuming they might not call all their main players which would benefit us. I am guessing he was referring to our last World Cup Qualifying game in Colombia where we were having a good campaign, yet lost 3-0. Either way, it shouldn't happen again.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Ummm...they have good definisive play...we have terrible forwards who can't finish our plays. Not a good mix.... On the other hand, they have Forwards who can't score either...but OUR defense is WEAKER than theirs.....in other words, it will be A LOT easier for their forwards to score before ours even think of it. On top of that...We couldn't beat them in freakin Quito!! A tie in Bogota will leave me in shock...
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Is the roster out yet for the players that are being called up for the Peru match?
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Los próximos rivales de Ecuador son Perú el 6 de junio en Lima y cuatro días más tarde será Argentina en Quito. Nómina de convocados: Arqueros Marcelo Elizaga (Emelec) Máximo Banguera (Barcelona) Cristhian Mora (El Nacional) Defensas Néicer Reasco (LDU Quito) Jayro Campos (LDU Quito) Marcelo Fleitas (Emelec) Jorge Guagua (El Nacional) Giovanny Espinoza (Barcelona) Iván Hurtado (Sin Equipo) Isaac Mina (Deportivo Quito) Volantes Segundo Castillo (Everton - Inglaterra) Pedro Quiñónez (Santos Laguna - México) Fernando Hidalgo (Barcelona) David Quiroz (Emelec) Edison Méndez (PSV Eindhoven - Holanda) Antonio Valencia (Wigan Athletic - Inglaterra) Christian Noboa (Rubin Kazan - Rusia) Joffre Guerrón (Getafe - España) Walter Ayoví (Monterrey - México) Jefferson Montero (Independiente José Terán) Delanteros Joao Rojas (Emelec) Pablo Palacios (Barcelona) Felipe Caicedo (Manchester City - Inglaterra) Carlos Tenorio (Sin Equipo)
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru "Peru's players are threatening to boycott the World Cup qualifiers if the national football federation does not change. The president of the players' union (SAFAP), Francesco Manassero, told a press conference today that no players will accept call-ups to the national team for friendlies or qualifiers if their demands are not met." http://www.espnstar.com/football/world-cup/news/detail/item275987/Peru-players-threaten-WC-boycott/ Although the proposed boycott will not affect the game against Ecuador, is it possible the Peruvian players might play less passionately as another statement to their federation?
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru I would believe it if they weren't playing us. I think they would rather spoil our chances and then pack it in for their second match if anything. We will see what happens though. They might just want to play for pride and put together a challenge for us especially with the way we have been finishing around the goal.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru La noticia es que la seleccion de los incas esta entrenando a media maquina .. solamente dos veces a la semana y con jugadores que se sienten con moral super bajo. Ademas van con una plantilla sin sus estrellas excepto Paolo Guerrerro pero no peor que nuestras bajas. Tambien la noticia es que La Federacion Peruana cambio de local a uno mas reducido para que no sea aparente la falta de hinchas en el estadio, para que no se vean vacios enormes en el estadio.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru I think they would get a kick out of spoiling Ecuador's chances and letting Colombia slide. They have it in for us, cus we are their daddy's in this sport.. Even at their home, we get positive outcomes. Didn't we qualify for out first World Cup in Lima?
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Lima. AFP El ánimo en Perú es crítico a una semana de enfrentarse con Ecuador y Colombia por las eliminatorias al Mundial Sudáfrica 2010. Con una selección en crisis, virtualmente eliminada y con amenazas de renuncias de sus jugadores a vestir la camiseta nacional, el cuadro de la banda roja se alista para estos encuentros. En medio de este tenso ambiente, la selección que dirige José del Solar inició sus entrenamientos a media máquina -solo practicó dos veces en la semana- para su partido con Ecuador, el 7 de junio, en el Monumental de Lima. La gran novedad es el retorno de Paolo Guerrero (Hamburgo, Alemania), tras cumplir una suspensión de seis fechas por haber insultado al árbitro chileno Pablo Pozo, en la paliza por 6-0 que le propinó a Perú el seleccionado uruguayo, el año pasado. Una ausencia notoria será la de Nolberto Solano, por lesión.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru A lo mejor cambiaron de planes.. y se quedan en ese local .. pero lei en el comercio peruano que pensaban tranferirse a un local mas reducido para que no hubiera partes vacias en el estadio. A lo bien .... que se en el monumental ! alli es donde clasificamos para el primer WC !!! buenas memorias !!
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru La Agremiación de Futbolistas del Perú ha determinado que ningún jugador profesional del país podrá acudir a la Selección, desde el próximo 24 de junio, mientras las autoridades respectivas no realicen cambios que ayuden a revertir la crisis que vive el balompié. Lima-Perú Este viernes, el fútbol peruano amaneció con problemas. La Agremiación de Futbolistas de ese país señaló que, desde el próximo 24 de junio, ningún jugador profesional podrá presentarse a una convocatoria de la Selección, mientras no se tomen correctivos para combatir la crisis en la que está sumida el balompié. Dado que la amenaza recién se haría efectiva en unas cuatro semanas, por el momento, no hay ningún inconveniente para que el conjunto de la franja roja se presenta a disputar la próxima fecha doble de Eliminatorias contra Ecuador y Colombia. Sin embargo, las últimas 4 fechas sí podrían verse comprometidas. En rueda de prensa, el Presidente de la Agremiación, Francesco Manassero, manifestó que esta resolución cuenta con el apoyo del cien por ciento de los jugadores peruanos que militan en el torneo local y con algunos que militan fuera. El directivo añadió que se necesitan acciones urgentes para cambiar el fútbol en su país. Vale recordar que en Eliminatorias, Perú es el colero de la tabla con apenas 7 unidades en 12 partidos. Además, en torneos internacionales de clubes, la mayoría de sus equipos no suelen pasar de la primera fase desde hace algunos años. La Federación Peruana de Fútbol respondió a la amenaza con un comunicado en el cuál se señala que se efectuará un análisis exhaustivo de todos los pedidos, los mismos que en algunos casos ya se han superado y se vienen cumpliendo. Además, señala que recién emitirá un comunicado oficial sobre el tema el 24 de junio, día que se termina el plazo dado por la Agremiación. Pero además, la FPF amenazó con sanciones a quienes se nieguen a participar con la Selección. “Todo jugador convocado está obligado a participar en su Selección Nacional, no hacerlo acarrea las sanciones dispuestas en el Reglamento del Estatuto y Transferencia de Jugadores y el Código Disciplinario de la FIFA, en el caso internacional, y las Normas de la Federación Peruana de Fútbol, a nivel nacional.” (LT)
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru i sure hope that we play good next week to me this game means alot ...and i believe in ecuador even if we may not be using a star team..but hey anything can happen i mean the last two times we played in lima are defence wasn't that all great either heck we had la sombra espinoza and hes pretty horrible at clearing the ball.. but then again i think everything will be chill and we could at least leave with a 3-0 or a 3-1 scoreline in our favour...but i hope this could happen if our offence doesnt screw up either, but my line -up would go like this: elizaga reasco-campos-fleitas-mina montero-mendez-ayovi-noboa rojas-tenorio or i would even switch guerron for tenorio im not sure what would be more offensive hahaha
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Va a ser dificil para nosotros los peruanos porque nadie viene con sus "estrellas", lo unico rescatable es que termino la suspencion de Paolo Guerrero y la convocatoria de Roberto Merino que medio Peru lo queria para estos partidos. Buenas suerte y que gane el mejor o el menos peor ;o
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru according to www.futbolecuador.com Vizuete's line up today was: Elizaga; Reasco, Guagua, Fleitas, Mina; Guerron, Mendez, Castillo, Ayovi; Rojas, Tenorio I thought Guerron and Mendez couldn't play but supposively it looks like I'm wrong. If that can both play it's positive news. Atleast b/c of Mendez. But Guagua back there in defense is the scariest thing I've seen this whole qualifiers.
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru i swear vizeute is retdarded he puts guerron instead of noboa wtf is wrong with him..guerron did nothing last two qualifiers except miss a goal two inches unfront of the net..and not make an easy pass to benitez that would have been a goal..noboa actually scored wtf is wrong with vizuete recently given all those results from games weve played i actually wouldnt mind seeing vizuete leave..bring in bauza or a cocach that actually knows wth hes doing
Re: WCQ Ecuador vs. Peru Not bad...hopefully the improvised defense will hold up. It is likely that both Mendez and Castillo will play very deep. I like having Guerron and Ayovi on the wings, it will require Peru to keep their defenders out wide and create space in the middle for our counterattacks. As far as Tenorio and Rojas, nobody knows much about Tenorio's fitness, Rojas is totally unproven at this level, and they've never played together - but hey - let's see what happens.