did barca really win

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by greenapes02, May 6, 2009.

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  1. The Natural

    The Natural New Member

    Jun 3, 2008
    Both the ref and Chelsea were shameful, Barca was playing with a man down for over 30 minutes and Hiddink takes out Drogba
     
  2. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Chelsea created the most clear cut chances over both legs and had the most clear penalty claims.
     
  3. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Oh, I'm sure he's feeling worse than anyone. First of all, he's done an injustice by a team, and no decent referee feels good about that. Secondly, he'll now get death threats for several months. Thirdly, his career is in the toilet - he will never get another high profile game, and may well end up retiring.

    But that's football. People make mistakes that have huge implications. Look at Terry's slip while taking the penalty in last year's final.
     
  4. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Nationality doesn't have much to do with it. Arguably the three best referees in the world in the last five years have been a Swede, a Slovak and an Australian.
     
  5. ferocho

    ferocho New Member

    Jul 31, 2008
    Wow, a lot of discontent Chelsea fanatics out there. As a Barça fan let me tell you, you were robbed tonight as we were robbed last week when you end the game with 11 players (oh, you might have forgotten that Ballack shouldn't have played this game). You might also have forgotten Ballack's handball on the first minutes of tonight's game and how a red card was given for an obvious dive by Anelka.
    And most importantly, you might have forgotten that you played against 10 players, had a million chances and weren't able to score one. So, yes I am glad that your dear Chelsea went down. Too bad it didn't happen earlier to save me the embarrasment of seeing your pathetic performance at the Camp Nou (and how is it fair that they play first at Camp Nou?).
    So, my dear Chelseos go to the pub, get sickly drunk, flail and lament and move on.

    Cheers,
     
  6. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Do you really believe that? In the spirit of competition, can it not be objectively argued that the team that advanced today had more will to win over 2 legs?
     
  7. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are you serious. Chelsea had better chances to score over both legs anyone can see that. Not even mentioning the clear penalties.

    Valdes was man of the match and saved Barcelona.
     
  8. greenapes02

    greenapes02 New Member

    Apr 21, 2009
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    this has nothing to do with the forum but i would like any soccer fan to watch this and learn the love we have in israel towards this game

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  9. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Re: Will the match official of the Chelsea......

    Referee was bad but let's not talk "fix" or bias. He was roundly bad for both Barca and Chelsea.
     
  10. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    They're dominant because they have the money. That's it, all, finito, thanks for playing.

    That makes them the best, as a matter of definition.

    Why do you think we keep seeing the English sides all but knock each other out of the CL in the knockout stages every year?

    That said, that should be dealt with with restricting domestic leagues of how many foreign players they have, not just some blatant official fixing the match -- and then probable international bans for the conduct afterward -- to make a disgrace out of the CL.
     
  11. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Compare what Madrid and Inter spend compared to Arsenal and Liverpool and they still get nowhere.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  12. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner. I just emphasized the key point.
     
  13. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I prefer to make the distinction, within the context of competition, between relying on incidents to sway in your favor in order to win and instead trusting your God given talent to influence a game.

    I think its hypocritical to hear complaints from English football enthusiasts about the "incidental" when the intellect says: the team that advanced was ultimately the more daring between the two. After all, that kind of thinking is what shaped English football to the level of prominence it is now. Just look at Manchester Uniteds mass appeal as an example.

    We can argue about game specs all day but I tell you this, over 180 minutes I strongly doubt that Chelsea garnished any brownie points from neutrals, or at least more than they already had in the last two weeks simply because they were the least inspiring. And for that reason Chelsea isn't getting my sympathy this time around.
     
  14. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England


    You're confusing Possesion with Chances.

    Barcelona barely created any clear chances over both legs compared to Chelsea.
     
  15. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    And if they had played more assertively, they might've given up three in Barcelona and made this game irrelevant.

    As it was, they were the only team this year to go to Barcelona and emerge with a clean sheet.
     
  16. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    Welcome to why I believe the NFL in the United States is rigged. Happens all the time.
     
  17. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Friend, they were the more daring team and they get the popular vote from neutral pundits. You're trying to simplify something that can't be simplified; cup competition football is a gigantic canvas of grey areas and can only be analyzed subjectively. This isn't major league baseball where everything is quantifiable to a tee.
     
  18. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    They created one chance, and that was their goal.

    That was the one thing which concerned me about Chelsea -- Barca had 2/3 of the possession for most of the game, and, really, it was all about if Barca was going to get one real chance, because that was all they were going to need, especially with the fix being in with the officiating.

    Chelsea were not getting a second goal.
     
  19. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    UEFA have had the away goal rule for decades and only now are we questioning it due to Chelsea fans' sour grapes?

    That is the rule. Live with it.
     
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  20. Lamps>Gerrard

    Lamps>Gerrard Member

    Feb 15, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chelsea were not getting a second goal eh? Had 3 or 6 chances not been blatantly stopped by Barca handballs/fouls, we would've put the ball in the net, simple as that.
     
  21. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Italy held Spain to a draw in the Euro's and where did that get them?
     
  22. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    And give me a break about the officiating. The game was so fixed that official felt it prudent to give Abidal a totally unnecessary red card? Nah. The ref was just bad. To both teams.
     
  23. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    You're presuming he's actually a "decent referee". Given today's performance, I can't agree with that.
     
  24. starcade

    starcade New Member

    Apr 24, 2009
    You know what they say: It's not the crime that exposes it, but the coverup.

    (The red was abysmal -- if anything, red for the dive.)
     
  25. ddjeffries

    ddjeffries New Member

    Sep 25, 2008
    Missouri
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes it is. they both were. if you are are eto and decide to turn around spastically then you better have your hands tucked. his arms were flying around and yes any part of the arm is a hand ball. if they were tucked it should a no call cuz the ball played the arms but his arms were out therefore he played the ball whether it was intentional or not.
     

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