Just curious as to what the general opinion is. I see people saying that he is done and a few people still asking for him in their line ups.
Or, without Pardo we wouldn't have won that game in El Azteca against Honduras and consequentially (or possibly) not made it to the next round. The questions to ask is, can we replace him with a player that is equal or better than him? ..
Every dog has his day. The first goal was nice but the second goal was more result of honduras facking up than his skill. If you put this dude in he will eventually score too.
if we want to speculate, i think if we had not had pardo that game, it wouldn't have come down to one super shot. we would have played better in the midfield, generated actual scoring opportunities and also prevented suazo from having his way with us while torrado and correa played midfield mexico - brazil 2-0 mexico - ecuador 2-1 mexico - chile 0-0 mexico paraguay 6-0 no reason to believe they wouldn't have done the same to freaking honduras
People argue with me that aguirre will call him up but i completely disagree. I think Aguiire will do the same thing he did in 2001. Keep a base of the same players but change a lot of the straglers. this article give me hope for this He made sweeping changes as he announced his first squad one day after taking over, naming six uncapped players and recalling veteran midfielder Alberto Garica Aspe. Meanwhile, eccentric goalkeeper Jorge Campos and striker Luis Hernandez were ruthlessly dropped along with defenders Pavel Pardo and Duilio Davino, midfielder German Villa and striker Antonio de Nigris He also demanded total commitment from his players, something which Mexican critics said had been missing under his predecessor Meza. 'I told the players face to face that if they don't feel fully committed, they take can their things and leave,' he said. 'Nobody wanted to go.'
aside from dead ball opportunities, Pardo is DONE Torrado, Correa, Pineda, Zamora, and even Arguello can take his place they are younger and have more to offer to the team
This always made me think about how Jose Francisco Torres would be perfect to fill Pardo's spot. Or atleast start getting his feet wet with the National team at D-mid. Kinda Funny how Edgar Castillo picked Mexico where he has Salcido and Pinto in front of him. I don't see Salcido leaving Mexico's LB spot till after the 2014 world Cup. The U.S. however cannot even define their starting Leftback. Edgar Castillo would be perfect for them. Now for us, Torres would be logical in this spot. A Young D-mid with alot of ''Salida'' like Pardo. But no, he chooses the U.S. where he has the Coach's son, Rico Clark, Mastroeni and Fielhaber and front of him. I guess both players made their decisions based on what shirt they loved most because it obviously wasn't well planed out to better their footballing careers. And yes Pardo is done. I just don't see a long-term replacement for him. The only young d-mid i can think of that has high expectations of him is ''Pato'' and i just don't see it in him. For the immediate future we have plenty of choices in Torrado,Leandro,Pineda,Correa ect.
Pardo is done as well as Torrado. He commits too many stupid fouls. I guess Leandro and Correa would do better. Whatever happened to Jimmy Lozano and Gonzalo Pineda. If Alan Zamora steps up his play, why not call him up as well.
I think Torrado still has a few solid years left, but Pardo is definitely done. IMO Leandro sucks, he shouldn't get call ups anymore, but I mosco Zamora being the future contencion. I hope he and Correa step up their game in a hurry.
The deal with Pavel is the effort. He's at a position where if he doesnt do what he's supposed to, it shows. If Zamora was getting minutes regularly, he would be ready for a shot. He doesnt because Brindisi didn't choose him, he'll be transfered after this Classura, dont worry The celebration against CR was horrible, its like they spent more time practicing that, then anything.
Yeah the US have expossed pardo a couple of times in recent years. Pardo is class but he is just SLOW. Bradley, Rico Clark and the mid from ChivasUSA all covered more ground than him and controlled the midfield. I like how Zamora was playing with Atlante, hes done pretty good with Jaguares when hes played. Also, when Hugo had El Tri playing good during Copa America he (pardo) wasnt on the field.
Pardo is done, only way he would be called up is if FIFA institues a designated kicker role and could come off the bench only for free kicks
Pardo has slowed down but torrado is terrible (why people keep on insisting on him i don't understand), correra has completely fallen of the map since the copa america in 2007 and leandro is pretty average. So i have no idea who you would replace Pardo with other than moving marquez up to centre defensive mid which would be the best option but is unlikely.
Marquez will always be the best option however torrado isn't terrible. Theres an old saying an old coach used to tell our cdm, If you're not getting a yellow card every game than you aren't doing things right. And its true The position Requires agressiveness and Pardo has none, he is good from a dead ball and sometimes has a good shot. otherwise he has always shown he is useless.
I don't mind the fact that torrado gets yellow cards its the fact that he can't complete a pass to save his life. Plus everyone talks about how slow Pardo is and i'm not sure torrado is any faster.
Its not so much Pardos lack of speed that kills him. He is usually out of position so when the player he is supposed to be marking gets the ball he has to sprint...but cant. Correa or Torrado are usually good at staying in a competetive position. Correa being better in my books.
the times i have seen pachuca play this season, correa has looked solid. he has by no means fallen off the map.
I think he's done honestly. It's just that there's no natural substitute for him. Torrado, Zamora, Correa, Leandro are just average players, who shouldn't be taken into consideration. They are solid players in their respective teams, but none of them stand out at all, not to mention most of them are completely useless at going forward. There are a couple of young midfielders like Noriega and Robles, but I don't think they will be given a chance, so we are gonna end up with Pardo starting in the World Cup even if its a hindrance to the team.
Aguirre is not stupid, he knows Pardo needs to be subbed. The NT is made to represent the best Mexicans we can get. Torrado, Zamora, Correa, Pacheco, Araujo, are all better options. It's interesting how much better Mexico played in Copa America without Salcido and Pardo.
Correa passes better than Torrado, but he has no offense... Im ok with that. Correa will stay in place instead of running up and leaving the mid and D. I say he's a good enough defensive mid, which is what we need right now.
I think his poll might still be working at least for a few more years, but he'll probably need viagra soon if he doesn't need it already.