FIFA 09 or Pro Evolution Soccer 2009

Discussion in 'Games' started by JaredSS07, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. emmex

    emmex New Member

    Feb 23, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    I would say fifa is more like mac than PES is...I hate mac....PES is more editable, the same as a pc...whereas a mac is totally out of your hands....no control...

    I used to be a fifa fan all my life...until PES 2006

    I have PES 2006 and have fifa 2008 (as well as numerous older fifa's)...
    basically my pc really becomes sluggish with fifa...and then fifa's graphics aint as smooth as PES. That shouts bad programming. PES needs so much less to run smooth and play well and look great. Fifa relies on your graphics card. Lazy. Wish i knew about winning eleven back when i played fifa 95....fifa 98 was great though...

    I must admit that they are two different games and that its fun playing in a realistic league with realistic names and stadiums....but with PES there is always something new that happens - the unexpected...in fifa there is repitition in the gameplay. Skill in fifa is utterly useless, but pes captures this brilliantly. The sense of scale is also far far better in PES...

    I installed the fifa 2009 demo....my pc can't run it smoothly at all. With fifa 2008, my graphics looks poor on best settings, poorer than PES 2006, whilst PES 2006 runs smoother and looks better.

    As for the menu system of fifa...this is almost the worst. I think they use a shockwave system or something...it is immensly slow...in PES it is super fast. One can make 10 strategic changes in the time one would do 2 in fifa. One does not need the mouse in PES, but in fifa you click and frigging click and it moves sooo ssoooo slowly....

    I'll stick with my PES 2006 for now...and buy 2009 when i have spare cash....
     
  2. burning_phoneix

    Jul 13, 2008
    Saudi Arabia
    Club:
    Al Wehda Mecca
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Wait for PES2010. PES2009 is like a roster update for 2006.
     
  3. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    emmex put it better than i could - fifa is decent enough, but its the repetition. its boring compared with pro evo. repetition sums it up brilliantly. once you play it a while you realise there are certain ways to score every time - thats not so much the case with pro evo.
     
  4. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    PES is lacking the edit feature of moving players to their current teams, (ex.. I can't move Berbatov from Spurs to Manchester United). I wish they would add that feature..
     
  5. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    three lions,

    you can move players on pro evo, you register them in edit mode. easy to do.
     
  6. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    really? Hmmm... *races off to the XBox 360...* haha
     
  7. emmex

    emmex New Member

    Feb 23, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    one cool thing about PES2006 is that it takes years to master....i still discover new moves and animations now and then and this is over a few years....
    (i can barely do all the skill moves)

    basically the game is vast....and once one has a proper patch, its even better...
     
  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I think the FIFA series is aimed to the casual gamer: someone who wants quick fun but doesn't want to study a program. The assumption is that once the game becomes repetitive, you will go out and buy a newer version.

    I still have my old Winning Eleven 9 and play it often. It's so editable, I keep all the teams up to date. You can move players around, change everything about every player, create new players and new teams, etc. If a team goes down in the league you can edit it so that it is just as the team that took its place. Just change names.

    Devoting some time to WE9 I've found all I'll ever need, frankly. I have an HD TV and all that, but I have yet to have so much fun playing a game as playing WE9 on my old black XBox. Since everything can be edited, even form and increased/decreased ability of a player can be regulated, as they gain experience and age.

    I see no reason to buy a PS3 or X-Box 360 or another football game. I've played them and explored them because my friends have them, but they all seem to lack the complete control I have over this one. Add to that the excellent gameplay and many variables (I can change the physical aspect of the players to the point that they are like pictures of the real ones, I have detailed control over the tactis, formation and strategy, etc.) and I can see how it can be bad business: unlike FIFA, where you need to buy the new one each year to follow the changes, with WE9 I have all I'll ever need.

    I don't care about trends and the latest graphics. I care about quality.
     
  9. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    I have a PS2 and play winning eleven since 1998 on ps1 , for pro evo 2009 what are the moves (dribbles) please for ps2 ? I know : R2 twice (step over), L1(twice step overs), Up right down left (zizou), square and X (fake shoot) . There are changes that happened since the 2008 version, like the rabona how u do it, the meg etc... the ronaldo trick too the cut back... U know what I mean?
     
  10. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Suyuntuy,

    Winning Eleven 9, which pro evo version was that? I have pro evo 2 on the PS2 (from 2001 or 2002) and thats still a classic. I only updated cos the PS2 upped and died like the tacky Sony plastic it is.
     
  11. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    I remember in one of the old winning eleven's on ps2 it was hard as shit to score one on one but easier to score long range shots...
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Well Winning Eleven 10 is the same as PES6 for PS2 and came out in April 2006. But PES5 for PS2 came out in October 2005 (also called WE9), while the game I have for XBox, WE9, came out in Frebruary 2006.

    I think WE9 for XBox is closest in gameplay to the PS2's World Soccer Winning Eleven 9, also out in Feb 2006, but with the teams from PES5 for PS2. Thus, it's between PES5 and PES6 for the PS2.
     
  13. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I wish they would keep the same name for either pro evo or winning eleven worldwide, confuses the hell out of me sometimes the names...


    getting back to the fifa debate; yes to me fifa is for the casual gamer, whoever said that was spot on. i like playing it every now and then but i could never do a league ; pro evo is where i devote most of my time. it's just beautiful. the net ripples do it for me every time.
     
  14. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I play FIFA, mainly online. How is PES online head to head against others?
     
  15. burning_phoneix

    Jul 13, 2008
    Saudi Arabia
    Club:
    Al Wehda Mecca
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    I don't play PES online but from what I've heard on PES message boards, the netcode is like shit.
     
  16. FakeFlopper

    FakeFlopper Member

    Jul 21, 2005
    Austin, Tx
    I've been a PES fan for some time now, but FIFA 09 is just be best simulated soccer experience so far. PES has some catching up to do and I think they will struggle for sometime as this is a place they aren't use to.
     
  17. estaticxalde

    estaticxalde Member

    Oct 2, 2006
    Alta Loma
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    International Superstar Soccer 64 Ftw

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  18. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    I remember that! It must have been one of the last ones to have completely fake names. It was good in its day - the players were incredibly fast if I remember rightly, it was great fun.
     
  19. nepiri30

    nepiri30 New Member

    Mar 25, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Can you please tell me if PES 2009 has realistic ratings for each player and its just the names that are fake?
     
  20. Naui_Ocelotl

    Naui_Ocelotl Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    The player ratings are more or less realistic and all the major players have REAL names with a few exceptions.
     
  21. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    yeah second that, ratings are realistic on pro evo 09. fake names are for english teams and some of the spanish ones, the dutch/spanish/french teams are genuine.
     
  22. RayGunner14

    RayGunner14 New Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Washington DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    none of the Bundesliga teams seem to be on PES 2009..even the German national team has fake names. I have the North American version and don't know if this applies to the other regions as well, but does anyone have any idea why they seem to be excluded? I've also looked up updates for the games and the Bundesliga remains missing..

    I really want to use Bayern
     
  23. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England


    yeah the UK version doesn't have any German sides, something to do with licensing I imagine. frustrating isn't it?
     
  24. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thats odd. I thought the only thing PES did have was the Champions League fully licensed.

    Here shows the teams that are licensed:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2009
     
  25. DeadAirSpace

    DeadAirSpace New Member

    Apr 14, 2006
    Texas / Luton
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    England

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