I would say fifa is more like mac than PES is...I hate mac....PES is more editable, the same as a pc...whereas a mac is totally out of your hands....no control... I used to be a fifa fan all my life...until PES 2006 I have PES 2006 and have fifa 2008 (as well as numerous older fifa's)... basically my pc really becomes sluggish with fifa...and then fifa's graphics aint as smooth as PES. That shouts bad programming. PES needs so much less to run smooth and play well and look great. Fifa relies on your graphics card. Lazy. Wish i knew about winning eleven back when i played fifa 95....fifa 98 was great though... I must admit that they are two different games and that its fun playing in a realistic league with realistic names and stadiums....but with PES there is always something new that happens - the unexpected...in fifa there is repitition in the gameplay. Skill in fifa is utterly useless, but pes captures this brilliantly. The sense of scale is also far far better in PES... I installed the fifa 2009 demo....my pc can't run it smoothly at all. With fifa 2008, my graphics looks poor on best settings, poorer than PES 2006, whilst PES 2006 runs smoother and looks better. As for the menu system of fifa...this is almost the worst. I think they use a shockwave system or something...it is immensly slow...in PES it is super fast. One can make 10 strategic changes in the time one would do 2 in fifa. One does not need the mouse in PES, but in fifa you click and frigging click and it moves sooo ssoooo slowly.... I'll stick with my PES 2006 for now...and buy 2009 when i have spare cash....
emmex put it better than i could - fifa is decent enough, but its the repetition. its boring compared with pro evo. repetition sums it up brilliantly. once you play it a while you realise there are certain ways to score every time - thats not so much the case with pro evo.
PES is lacking the edit feature of moving players to their current teams, (ex.. I can't move Berbatov from Spurs to Manchester United). I wish they would add that feature..
one cool thing about PES2006 is that it takes years to master....i still discover new moves and animations now and then and this is over a few years.... (i can barely do all the skill moves) basically the game is vast....and once one has a proper patch, its even better...
I think the FIFA series is aimed to the casual gamer: someone who wants quick fun but doesn't want to study a program. The assumption is that once the game becomes repetitive, you will go out and buy a newer version. I still have my old Winning Eleven 9 and play it often. It's so editable, I keep all the teams up to date. You can move players around, change everything about every player, create new players and new teams, etc. If a team goes down in the league you can edit it so that it is just as the team that took its place. Just change names. Devoting some time to WE9 I've found all I'll ever need, frankly. I have an HD TV and all that, but I have yet to have so much fun playing a game as playing WE9 on my old black XBox. Since everything can be edited, even form and increased/decreased ability of a player can be regulated, as they gain experience and age. I see no reason to buy a PS3 or X-Box 360 or another football game. I've played them and explored them because my friends have them, but they all seem to lack the complete control I have over this one. Add to that the excellent gameplay and many variables (I can change the physical aspect of the players to the point that they are like pictures of the real ones, I have detailed control over the tactis, formation and strategy, etc.) and I can see how it can be bad business: unlike FIFA, where you need to buy the new one each year to follow the changes, with WE9 I have all I'll ever need. I don't care about trends and the latest graphics. I care about quality.
I have a PS2 and play winning eleven since 1998 on ps1 , for pro evo 2009 what are the moves (dribbles) please for ps2 ? I know : R2 twice (step over), L1(twice step overs), Up right down left (zizou), square and X (fake shoot) . There are changes that happened since the 2008 version, like the rabona how u do it, the meg etc... the ronaldo trick too the cut back... U know what I mean?
Suyuntuy, Winning Eleven 9, which pro evo version was that? I have pro evo 2 on the PS2 (from 2001 or 2002) and thats still a classic. I only updated cos the PS2 upped and died like the tacky Sony plastic it is.
I remember in one of the old winning eleven's on ps2 it was hard as shit to score one on one but easier to score long range shots...
Well Winning Eleven 10 is the same as PES6 for PS2 and came out in April 2006. But PES5 for PS2 came out in October 2005 (also called WE9), while the game I have for XBox, WE9, came out in Frebruary 2006. I think WE9 for XBox is closest in gameplay to the PS2's World Soccer Winning Eleven 9, also out in Feb 2006, but with the teams from PES5 for PS2. Thus, it's between PES5 and PES6 for the PS2.
I wish they would keep the same name for either pro evo or winning eleven worldwide, confuses the hell out of me sometimes the names... getting back to the fifa debate; yes to me fifa is for the casual gamer, whoever said that was spot on. i like playing it every now and then but i could never do a league ; pro evo is where i devote most of my time. it's just beautiful. the net ripples do it for me every time.
I've been a PES fan for some time now, but FIFA 09 is just be best simulated soccer experience so far. PES has some catching up to do and I think they will struggle for sometime as this is a place they aren't use to.
I remember that! It must have been one of the last ones to have completely fake names. It was good in its day - the players were incredibly fast if I remember rightly, it was great fun.
Can you please tell me if PES 2009 has realistic ratings for each player and its just the names that are fake?
The player ratings are more or less realistic and all the major players have REAL names with a few exceptions.
yeah second that, ratings are realistic on pro evo 09. fake names are for english teams and some of the spanish ones, the dutch/spanish/french teams are genuine.
none of the Bundesliga teams seem to be on PES 2009..even the German national team has fake names. I have the North American version and don't know if this applies to the other regions as well, but does anyone have any idea why they seem to be excluded? I've also looked up updates for the games and the Bundesliga remains missing.. I really want to use Bayern
yeah the UK version doesn't have any German sides, something to do with licensing I imagine. frustrating isn't it?
thats odd. I thought the only thing PES did have was the Champions League fully licensed. Here shows the teams that are licensed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2009