U20 WC Duty

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by newbiecoach, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. New Engalnd Nellie

    Mar 6, 2008
    Well maybe there are two camps as the one I was told about was in Chula Vista (or is that the same?)
     
  2. Soccerfl

    Soccerfl New Member

    Apr 25, 2008
    Has anyone heard who the U18 WC will be and when are pools usually set for 2009?
     
  3. UncleFugly

    UncleFugly Member

    Aug 12, 2008
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One combined camp of 48. More to follow.
     
  4. Smashfoot

    Smashfoot New Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    I would say that there is no such thing as a set pool, so there is no date when pools are set. A few players attend almost everything, and others come and go.
     
  5. Crazyhorse

    Crazyhorse Member

    Dec 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I take it some Nittany Lions will be there with the way you all are snatching up premiere prospects.
     
  6. Soccerfl

    Soccerfl New Member

    Apr 25, 2008
    I know the pools are never set but usually US Soccer website lists the pool of players at the beginning of every calendar year per each age group.

    How do you know of the U-20/18 camp? Is it listed somewhere?
     
  7. fanaticdefutbol8

    fanaticdefutbol8 New Member

    Apr 16, 2008
    After reviewing the list of players invited to the camp, I don't see any of U-20 World Cup players there...any explanation
     
  8. New Engalnd Nellie

    Mar 6, 2008
    I think this pool is in preparation for the Next U20 world Cup in 2010. Would any of this years U20 team players be age appropriate in 2010?
     
  9. RegionIIFutbolr

    Jul 4, 2005
    Region 2
    I think just one, Nairm?
     
  10. Sean...

    Sean... Member

    Jul 23, 2005
    Ireland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sydney Leroux is the only other player besides Christine Nairn that's still eligible.
     
  11. soccersgreat

    soccersgreat New Member

    Feb 7, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Per the US Soccer web site, there's to be 18 players selected for the 10 team tournament in La Manga, Spain in early March. How soon can we expect them to post the roster of players. Also, will the players only come from those that were invited to the most recent camp.
     
  12. Crazyhorse

    Crazyhorse Member

    Dec 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. soccersgreat

    soccersgreat New Member

    Feb 7, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Noticed out of the 9 listed defenders they invited to camp at the end of January, only two managed to make the team roster as a defender. Two were added that came into camp as midfielders. The remaining defender, of the 5 listed, came out of the player pool. For those more familar with the selection process, what may have been some of the determining factors that lead to their decision.
     
  14. Smashfoot

    Smashfoot New Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    It is impossible to say why certain players were selected. What is certainly true is that national team coaches can take whatever players they want when they want, however the players came to the coach's attention. It doesn't matter what list they are on, what camp they went to, etc. Most of the players selected for Spain attended the recent camp, a couple didn't but played with U20 WC team, and a couple did neither but are still going to Spain.
     
  15. warh2os

    warh2os Member

    Oct 29, 2007
    One criteria they are using, I'm sure, is speed. Probably one of the reasons for the selection of the 2 midfielders, most likely speedy outside midfielders, which I'm sure have had some defense experience as well, and probably will be playing at the outside back positions. The two pool players, Brianne Young (D) and Cat Parkhill (GK) that weren't at the recent camp, were however, at the last camp before the final selection of last years U-20 World Cup team.
     
  16. warh2os

    warh2os Member

    Oct 29, 2007
    Wanted to share this with you. The 2010 U-20 World Cup will be played in Germany, and there will be no conflict with the college season this time. Dates are to be July 15 thru August 1.
     
  17. Tokonta

    Tokonta Member

    Dec 11, 2008
    Is there a Fire-God after all?
    Even though the USA is just one country of many participating in the U-20 World Cup the recent World Cup dates seemed illogical and confusing.
    TOOO many conflicts.:confused:
    The new dates (7-15 thru 8-1) justify Logic and Common-Sense. The summer/weather/Germany/preparation/etc. will work for many countries. I was happy to see the nations coming together to agree to the better forum.
    Good Luck to the USA!:)
     
  18. bayscr

    bayscr New Member

    Sep 18, 2008
    Santa Clara
    I don't know what the soccer calendar is for 20 year olds in other nations in the northern hemisphere but I suspect that the 2008 Cup was inconvenient for more than just the US. But it probably can't be avoided whenever a World Cup is played in the southern hemisphere. July is the middle of winter and the rainy season in Chile. (Not that they get much precipitation or that anyone would mistake winter in central Chile for winter in northern Minnesota.) But they would naturally want to hold the event during their summer. I suppose they could have held the Cup in early 2008, but that would have meant preliminary qualification matches and training would have conflicted with the 2007 US college season or taken place during the dead of winter for countries in the northern hemisphere.

    Does anyone know when colleges in "the south" hold their seasons?
     
  19. Smashfoot

    Smashfoot New Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    I don't believe colleges "in the south" field woman's soccer teams, if, by "in the South", you mean South America.

    It was my understanding that the U20 WC was so late this year so as not to conflict with the olympics.
     
  20. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    Universities in South America don't really field sports teams. Well, they do have them, but they would be considered more on the intramural level.

    If you want to be good at Futbol, you get yourself noticed by Athletic clubs. They are the real driving force for Futbol. In Argentina, for example, all the first Division teams are affiliated with athletic clubs. Boca Juniors, for example, is Club Atletico Boca Juniors (Boca Jrs. athletic club) the same with River Plate- Newell's Old Boys ---all the rest.

    Most of the clubs in Argentina started around the start of the last century as clubs formed by British owned railroads or other industries to keep their employees from getting drunk after hours. Pretty much the same model used in England (West Ham and other clubs) That's why you'll see English sounding names in the club names.

    Clubs were by and large male bastions up until very recently. Thirty years ago, you couldn't become a Socio (Club member), have voting rights, or buy the season tickets to the top team if you were a woman. That's now changed, and now that women can become Socios, they can vote on club issues, and women's teams are being formed. If you are really good at Futbol, the club houses and feeds you and sees to your education, which for many poor kids, is their best shot at being educated. If you are REALLY good, you go pro, and if you are even better, you get sold to a European club to finance the program you came up in. How far women will come will largely depend on what success women's professionals have.

    It's a money making deal from a VERY young age.

    Diego Maradona, for instance started in a small club in the provinces as a child, was eventually bought by Argentinos Juniors, and eventually made his way to Boca before he went to Europe.

    Lionel Messi Went from Grandoli, another small club, and was sold to Newell's Old Boys by the time he was 11.

    Other South American countries run on a similar model.


    As to when they have their seasons, they are split in half -Spring-Fall. The Spring season ends about 3-4 weeks before Christmas and championships Occur. All the Stadiums would have been booked for the club championships. The Women's World Cup happened right after that and just before the Holiday season when no one would be away from family. After Christmas would be WAY too hot. In fact, I think even some of the WWC games were scorchers. The fall season starts at the end of February or in March.

    From A South American perspective, The u 20 WWC happened at the best available time.
     
  21. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks, CW, for the very informative post. I read a book that is in part about the history of US soccer, titled Soccerhead: An Accidental Journey into the Heart of the American Game, by Jim Haner. As I recall, Haner says that in the early 20th century, there was widespread soccer in the eastern half of the US, with clubs formed by US industries. If my recollection of the book is correct, it asserts that baseball eventually decided to oust the soccer teams from jointly used facilities and/or sponsorships, possibly with the intention of killing soccer as a sport able to compete with baseball. My apologies to Haner if I've overstated what his book says about this.
     
  22. Iron Man

    Iron Man New Member

    Oct 7, 2008
    Newell's Old Boys let Messi go for free, can you believe that?????
     
  23. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    Leo needed HGH treatments which were risky and expensive.

    Neither Newell's nor River wanted the risk involved, but FC Barcelona did, and it payed off BIG time.

    I don't think anyone ever doubted that he had exceptional talent.
     
  24. Iron Man

    Iron Man New Member

    Oct 7, 2008
    Not about the risk, but about paying for the injections. He is now worth in the $250 million Euros range, if they'd only had a crystal ball....by the way, Diego's first club was the Cebollitas which was in the slums of Buenos Aires, not the provinces before he was picked up by Argentinos Juniors.
     

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