Sir Bobby Robson: MLS is Second Rate

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Pablo Chicago, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, Carver wasn't quoted saying anything negative about the league. That's Robson being quoted there.

    But I'll take second-rate, anyway. 18 months ago most of them were calling it below pub league standard.
     
  2. DetroitTFC

    DetroitTFC BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 14, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Refresh my memory - Hyndman coached for who before FCD?
     
  3. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU

    Sad but true, most Uruguay pay their players less $800. a month. I am not includuing Penerol, National, Danubio and Defensor
     
  4. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The mighty SMU Mustangs. And what's your point?
     
  5. Statman Crothers

    Statman Crothers New Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    Be nice to Robson. I started noticing him when he was a successful coach at Newcastle in the early 2000s. Yes, "success" and "Newcastle" in the same sentence.

    He scored a ton of goals as a player.

    He did pretty well managing England in 1986 and 1990.

    He did well managing at several clubs, including Newcastle and Barcelona.

    The guy has lung cancer. Give him a break.

    He flattered MLS by rating it second rate. Beckham and Donovan seem to agree with him.

    Would Bob Bradley want Dempsey, Onyewu, Howard, Cherundolo, Bocanegra, Donovan, Bradley Junior, Altidore, Adu, and others playing in MLS? Of course not. MLS was useful in helping the US get to where it is today. It is no longer a reasonable option for a team planning to be a dominant player at future World Cups. Check out how many/few MLS players are called up in important games.
     
  6. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I the only one who doesn't give a cr*p about what Brits think of the MLS?

    Seriously, why people expect us to care what one dude from their thinks of our soccer league, I don't know?

    Have some respect for what we have gentleman, and perhaps the Europeans will follow us in that sense -- as they have with nearly everything for the past 60 years.
     
  7. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    They get an upgrade in pay. That's it.
     
  8. DetroitTFC

    DetroitTFC BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 14, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not a slag against Hyndman, a brave man to come in and try to get FCD back on the tracks again. The point is managerial talent is thin in MLS all around. If Carver is woefully underqualified, then half the coaches in MLS are the same or worse.
     
  9. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where? ;)
     
  11. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know...second-rate after 14 years is pretty darn good.
     
  12. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those Leagues MAY be an upgrade in pay, but they are not an upgrade in play.:D
     
  13. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pipe down, Scientologist
     
  14. Yes they are. MLS has no team even close to the level of a Rosenborg or a Bronby.
     
  15. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2nd rate compared to the EPL?, for sure, but, dollar for dollar MLS is the best league in the world.
     
  16. gregro

    gregro New Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    The Emerald City
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We used to be Micky Mouse...UPGRADE! : )
     
  17. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And most Norwegian teams play Rosenborg every week? :rolleyes:
     
  18. KMJvet

    KMJvet BigSoccer Supporter

    May 26, 2001
    Quake Country
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He didn't have to say "2nd rate." He could have just said the American league or MLS--because that's it's name. He didn't need to be derogratory. He just chose to be. He doesn't really live up to "Sir."
     
  19. Dignan

    Dignan Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Granada
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No matter what, MLS and American soccer will always be considered second rate by the Euros and Mexico. Even when we eventually win the World Cup and become an elite nation and team, they will still continue to clap their hands over their eyes and beat themselves about the head with pans, shouting "We are better!!"
     
  20. Easton FC

    Easton FC Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jul 18, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, it's the good, old-fashioned, American way... Nice to know the world is finally following our example...:D
     
  21. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I proudly wear the banner of those who doesn't give a ******** what anyone - British, American, whoever - thinks about soccer, my home league or my favorite team.

    I find some soccer fans' constant need to reassurance from others quite silly.
     
  22. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    It's a personality trait/weakness that I guarantee goes way beyond soccer.
    Quite common.

    The need to be told "I'm a good boy" and "everything is OK" and "worthwile."

    Governments, religion and advertisers crave these people and these personalities. The less confident (insecure), self assured, educated and measured the better.
     
  23. Simster

    Simster Member

    May 16, 2002
    London
    Club:
    Brighton & Hove Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    A surprisingly* reasonable post. People like Bobby Robson are always going to consider MLS a second rate league as such all the while the majority of American sports fans do. I wouldn't worry, it really won't be considered second rate for very long, IMO.


    (*Why are Brighton listed as your foe?)
     
  24. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, I know it extends beyond the sport, but this is where I most frequently encounter it. It's the same trait that has allowed people like Paris Hilton and the Hills crew to be famous. People flock to them to feel like people without a discernible talent can still gain fame. It can be quite annoying.
     
  25. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    And then, once they get that reassurance in the form of popular support, usually these same fans will start to hate the casual fans and attention the league gets from being popular. People will complain about the game "losing its purity" and about fair-weather fans and on and on. They'll start following USL-2 because it's more "real."

    Ad nauseum.
     

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