Gaza Thread Discussion Part IV

Discussion in 'International News' started by Ismitje, Jan 15, 2009.

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  1. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
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    The difference is, nukes will neutralise Israel's trump card. They will no longer be able to threaten genocide in the form of nuclear attacks.
     
  2. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    Like Umarfm said, we will see the end of Israel's horrific crimes.
     
  3. Drippingmilk

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    Jul 30, 2008
    The only side in this conflict that has threatened genocide has been the Arabs(along with Iran), and repeatedly.
     
  4. Umar

    Umar Member+

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    Really?

    The Israelis have come closer to achieving their aims (as quoted above) of ethnic cleansing and attempts at genocide, than the Arabs or Iranians have ever done.
     
  5. The_ChelseaSupporter

    Mar 25, 2007
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    Do you honestly believe that the goal of Israelis is to commit genocide against the Palestinians? The fact is that if they really wanted to do that, they could do so easily. Obviously it's not and whether you disagree with it or not, they are simply defending their country.

    You can support any claim with quotes, so that won't work, sorry.
     
  6. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    Obviously if you take their land, what would they do?
     
  7. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    A country the Israelis stole!
     
  8. Scarecrow

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    Yes he does, and he also thinks Israel are the only ones who ever do any wrong. When I showed how hamas used WP, he and !bob suddenly quit talking about how Israel used WP.

    I am not at all surprised that hamas inflated the numbers in order to gain international sympathy to try and stop the Israeli military since hamas couldn't hope to do so themselves. The stories coming out about there cowardice isn't surprising nor are there 'victory' celebrations that they have been holding. Some victory. They got there land destroyed and there people killed.
     
  9. Scarecrow

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    Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Umar

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    Do you really believe that the goal of the Arabs and Iranians is to commit genocide against the Jews? 'Cause i didn't see you piping up when Drippingmilk keeps insinuating that lie.

    I believe that the Israelis are completely indifferent to the death of innocent Palestinian civilians, as shown by their recent conduct, and that they are happy to kill as many Palestinians as they can get away with, without killing so many that those in the West who support them will remove their support.

    Have you been reading my responses to Drippingmilk? This has been my point all along. But if he wishes to insist that quotes are important, then he must analyse quotes from Israeli leaders who have not only stated their aims but actually partially acted on them.
     
  11. The_ChelseaSupporter

    Mar 25, 2007
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    Even if it is true that Palestinians were forced out of Israel, which I don't believe, Palestinians are free to come back and set up their own political parties to 'reclaim' it. This is not Nazi Germany, this is a modern country that respects all peoples.
     
  12. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    Well this is the truth.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Fomj2UK50&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - Palestinian VS Jewish Girl Argue On U.S Television Over The Crisis In Gaza - 2009[/ame]
     
  13. Umar

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    NO they are not. They are not allowed back into Israel. Hell, some aren't even allowed OUT of Gaza to another country, never mind into Israel. There is a "right of return" for Jews in Ethiopia, Russia and the like to "come back" to Israel, whilst the original occupants of the land in 1948 are deliberately prevented from doing so.
     
  14. Scarecrow

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  15. The_ChelseaSupporter

    Mar 25, 2007
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    I believe that Hamas and Iran would favor the destruction of Israel, yes. I don't know about their opinions on Jews in general, but I would guess that they are 'indifferent' as you put it.

    Israel is happy to kill as many Hamas as they can get away with, not Palestinians. It just so happens that Hamas are Palestinian and that it is probably difficult to tell the difference between a terrorist Hamas member or an innocent civilian. They have to base their decisions completely off intelligence, which is not always 100% accurate. When your country is under a terrorist attack, you have to strike back and there are always casualties. After 9/11, the U.S. invaded Afghanistan and struck down terrorists there, though many civilians died. Gaza is no different.

    I'm glad that there is a ceasefire going on. Though Hamas are probably re-grouping, it allows the Palestinian people to recover and get out of the way and hopefully turn against Hamas. No Hamas, no Israelis would even bother going into Gaza.
     
  16. The_ChelseaSupporter

    Mar 25, 2007
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    Prove this, and if you do, I'll agree that this is a stupid policy on Israel's part. My opinion still won't change on my support of Israel, though. As I've said before, I don't agree with everything Israel has done over time.
     
  17. yasik19

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    there was no ********ing country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. Umar

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  19. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005

    Go learn some history!

    And then answer the following:
    1. How much land Egypt is occupying of Palestine?
    2. How much land is Israel occupying of Palestine?
     
  20. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    Okay land which Israal stole from the Palestinian people.
     
  21. Scarecrow

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    As always I am educating the ignorant. Read for yourself here:

    http://www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm#The British Mandate
     
  22. yasik19

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    And Arabs did want to commit genocide against the Israelis in 1948, 1953, 1967, and 1973. Israelis NEVER wanted to do the same. Anyone who says otherwise is a ********ing liar or just history-challenged individual.
     
  23. yasik19

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    This argument about land is so damn annoying already. We keep going back in circles. I almost wish the mods would close these damn threads b/c apparently, nobody gives a damn about CURRENT events in Gaza.
     
  24. odessit19

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    Dec 19, 2004
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    It's sad, very sad, but how many friggin' links have people already posted about what Hamas does and how they deliberately want exactly THAT. Even Palestinians admit it themselves. They - Hamas do not care about their own people. Can you at least admit that?
     
  25. Scarecrow

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    As for today, it is sickening that hamas are out in the streets celebrating a 'victory' after they got so many of there people killed.

    And Israel was true to there word that they would leave Gaza right away, once again showing they do what they say.
     

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