Ives: Beasley Back to MLS in January?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by mk71885, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    IOW's. DMB is not DP worthy in MLS (money is the big part of the equation for a DP in our league).

    Yes/No?

    I didn't miss the point at all.
    In MLS, DMB is not worth a DP investment.

    That's really all you said. I just said it more directly and honestly.



    10 years as a top level manager, then director, allows you to really cut through the BS fast. Can't afford to waste time on stuff like this.


    DMB IS NOT WORTH DP MONEY IN MLS for a myriad of reasons...the if's, could be's,circular logic and system issues/excuses are irrelavant to the facts.

    In MLS DMB is not worth DP money.

    Or am I still missing something?
     
  2. B Rock

    B Rock Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    Gibbs really is the only answer that qualifies to the question. As Sachin pointed out, it isn't really a viable career option to go from Europe to MLS to back to Europe. Even in Gibbs' case, St. Pauli was more then willing to keep hold of him but the level of play and lack of exposure was limiting his opportunities.

    If Beasley comes back to MLS after being dumped by PSV and Rangers there really is very little way back to the continent. Take an example of Angel, who has put together top shelf performances in MLS after being dumped by Villa. Despite his performances, there's no interest from the continent as they aren't at all convinced that he'd be anything other then that disapointing performer they knew when he was playing in England.
     
  3. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Though there have been rumblings that Angel could be going back to River, is still a big step up. Heck, if he performs well there, then back to Europe could be a possibility.
     
  4. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I suspect you are missing many things, but never mind.

    "10 years as a top level manager, then director," just makes you sound bitter and pompous, not as someone who can cut through "BS." If you can not waste time on things, then don't respond.

    However, we agree that no MLS team is probably going to cough up DP money for Beasley. He may be worth a seven figure salary on the open market, but not in MLS.
     
  5. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Well, while I kinda see that, Angel is 33, and Beasley is 26. DMB would certainly have a better shot than Angel would. He might be stereotyped in Scotland forever as a guy who couldn't hold up to the blood and thunder, but I wouldn't close the book on a club somewhere in Europe if he hit a rich vein of form for the National Team.
     
  6. DirtyJerzey

    DirtyJerzey Member

    May 30, 2005
    Harrison, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You would think, that if we're talking about the same DaMarcus Beasley that put on a clinic against Lyon in the champions league just a year ago, that his resume alone could land him somewhere in Europe and he wouldn't need MLS to bounce off of.

    [ame="http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1235011/4357738"]Glasgow Rangers Beasleys Goal Against Lyon on Yahoo! Video[/ame]
    Beasley's goal to finish off Lyon.
     
  7. Dignan

    Dignan Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Granada
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Although it has not happened yet it appears that David Beckham, Landon Donovan, and Kenny Cooper all could make moves back to Europe after extended stays in MLS.

    Joe Max Moore is another player who boosted his career by leaving Europe to play in MLS then went back to Europe.

    Harkes even had offers to return to England after a few years in MLS, but chose to stay. Same for Wynalda. Kaiserlautern, I believe, but Wyanalda turned them down because he did not want to go back to Germany.

    Friedel. Donadoni anyone?

    Its simply not out of the question.

    Beasely is still only 26. EPL teams have shown they are not averse to signing older experienced players, especially, especially for a player who is in form and had a good World Cup.

    All players go through rough patches in their career. It doesn't mean that Beasely is complete rubbish. Sometimes it is s difficult rash of injuiries. Sometimes it is the situation, wrong team wrong coach, and a change of scenery makes a big difference. Soccer is a very mental game, confidence is key, and maybe Beasely just needs to rebuild his confidence in a place where he can get regular minutes.

    I highly doubt Beasley is done, and I would expect him to be able to continue to play in Europe for years to come, even after a possible move back to MLS.
     
  8. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    It certainly isn't.

    Is Clint Mathis the first and only player ever to go from MLS -> Europe -> MLS -> Europe -> MLS?

    In addition to completing the Europe -> MLS -> Europe boomerang (not that Ergotelis is some UEFA powerhouse), Mathis also has managed to tack on MLS stints at both ends of his pro career.

    Although, I wouldn't put it past that guy to see him complete his club playing career in Asia or Oceania or somewhere other than MLS or Europe.
     
  9. B Rock

    B Rock Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    You're missing the point. The majority of players you had listed still had interest in Europe but chose to come for personal / financial reasons.

    Donovan and Beckham, your lead examples, stick out in that regard. Harkes, Wynalda, and Friedel all returned to MLS in its first season despite having European options, not near the same scenario. Cooper also had options, but wanted a guarantee of first team football which MLS was able to provide him.

    Beasley wouldn't be coming back for either personal / financial reasons. He's proven over his last few moves that he'd rather be in Europe. However, he's come to the point where he's been run out of his third club in four years (?). If and when Beasley comes back it won't be because he misses MLS, it will be because he can no longer find suitable employment in Europe that pays him more then he can earn in MLS.

    If you want to try and name a group of players who came to MLS due to lack of interest from Europe (i.e. Angel) and managed to rebuild their reputation enough to get another chance at Europe, well, thats a list I'd like to see and one that might actually be representative of the situation at hand.
     
  10. DirtyJerzey

    DirtyJerzey Member

    May 30, 2005
    Harrison, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm kinda confused about this. All of the rumors have Nacho Novo (to Depor La Coruna) and Charlie Adam (to Nottingham Forrest) leaving Rangers.

    Aren't those Beasley's competition for left wing? Walter Smith can't be thinking about getting rid of all of his left wingers, could he?

    Sorry if this is sounding to YAish, but I couldn't find the thread for it in that forum.
     
  11. radmonkey

    radmonkey Member

    Oct 27, 2007
    So a well reasoned argument is BS to to top level managers. Gee, that explains a lot. :D
     
  12. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seltzer at noshortcorners say Beasley's move back to MLS ain't gonna happen:

    http://www.noshortcorners.com/

    Actually, he said Beasley's agent said it.
     

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