Three Ideas for a Better American Soccer Fan

Discussion in 'MLS: Rumors' started by Westbrook Diarist, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. Westbrook Diarist

    Nov 30, 2008
    Westbrook, Maine
  2. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    I actually agree with all three points. Especially point number one. For some odd reason when people don't speak/type like what is said in point #1, it just rubs me the wrong way.
     
  3. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I say we need to import some better fans. And could we import some teams like Man U, Barca and Milan while we're at it?
     
  4. mcontento

    mcontento Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Catalina Wine Mixer
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we just had about 500K more people as dedicated and fanatical as you we'd be alright. You single handedly scared the shit out of the Hondurans and Guates during Project Mayhe...wait forgot I can't talk about that.

    Move along, nothing to see here. [whistles and walks away]
     
  5. b1gs341

    b1gs341 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Houston, TX
    None of those ideas would improve MLS and just serve to separate MLS even further from the rest of the world and the "eurosnobs" in this country.
     
  6. b1gs341

    b1gs341 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Five Real Ideas that would actually do something to make MLS a legitimate league instead of the league that teams in Denmark draw players from.

    1.Single table, no playoff.
    2.Promotion/Relegation
    3.5x salary cap, teams own all contracts
    4.Every team in the US must have a SSS, no turf
    5.No one can be invested in multiple clubs (AEG byebye)

    MLS goal should be to have that done in 10 years
     
  7. nbrooks503

    nbrooks503 Previously Held @Dynamo Hostage From 2008-2019

    Jun 1, 2008
    Disgruntled Former STH - Fairweather Bandwaggoner
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So does that mean I'm prohibited from saying bugger?:eek:
     
  8. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be huge! No more of this single entity bull shit...

    I agree with point number 2 from the original poster. The more we support our league. The better it will become.

    Oh and when the addidas (jersey) contract ends...teams should find their own uniform outfitters. Every team wearing the Addidas jerseys makes MLS look ameture IMHO.
     
  9. b1gs341

    b1gs341 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Houston, TX
    6.No teams named after a product.
     
  10. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok with out Red Bull there would be no RBA (aka the cathedral for American soccer )or JPA who is easily the best striker in the league. MLS is better with Red Bull ownership. FACT
     
  11. b1gs341

    b1gs341 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Houston, TX
    So RBA isn't even built yet and it is the cathedral for American soccer.:rolleyes: (25k seats isn't the cathedral of anything)

    So you guys got a SSS (right after RSL did :rolleyes:) and a 33 striker whose career highlight was sitting the bench at Aston Villa.

    Is that worth being named after an extreme soft drink?:p
     
  12. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the rBA was being built before the Bed bull ownership
     
  13. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also afree to a extent because its america's league there for it should have a american feel, and american love, just like the NASL did.... Soccer needs to left alone to develop here in the US not toyed to be europeanized.
     
  14. TinManJoshua

    TinManJoshua Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Portsmouth FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My response to your points.

    1. Euro poser.
    2. Euro poserx2. C'mon. This is just stupid. I can't believe people still wish for this.
    3. Not a bad idea. Too bad it would sink the league to have that kind of cap. Maybe 10-15 years from now the cap will be that big. But REAL "football" fans would have to support the league BEFORE it can afford to pay those wages.
    4. Not a bad idea.
    5. AEG has been trying to widdle their ownership down to one team for a while now. They now just own LA and half of Houston. HSG, now that's another story.

    This article was about coming up with ways for MLS to appeal to AMERICAN sports fans. And to laugh at jokers like you who think you know what's best for MLS because you watch the English league.
     
  15. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it wasnt it was just an idea..they broke ground December 06.

    They also bought out AEG redesigning it in the process, taking out the stage and some luxury boxes.
     
  16. b1gs341

    b1gs341 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Houston, TX
    1.Every major league in the world poser:rolleyes:
    2.same
    3.They had plenty to pay Beckham 5x what a team makes:rolleyes:
    4.ok
    5.It needs to be in legal writing just like it is a rule in basically every other league in the world.

    The point is to improve MLS to the point of being a serious world wide league. If you guys hate the serious leagues so much why does everyone gush when some 32+ year old retires to MLS from one?:rolleyes:

    Until you take steps to make MLS more than the Worlds biggest Mickey Mouse league then American and foreign fans will continue to ignore it like the joke it is rapidly becoming.
     
  17. b1gs341

    b1gs341 New Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Houston, TX
    So basically what the Red Bull name got you was some minor stadium changes on a mediocre SSS.

    At least you guys are the most "extreme" team in the MLS.

    I just wish we were lucky enough to be Houston MOUNTAIN DEW EXTREME
     
  18. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plans was well in the works long before the RED Bull thing.
     
  19. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes but nothing came to fruition...untill they got there. Point remains the same tho...the NY franchise and the league both benifited from Red Bull ownership.
     
  20. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Europeanizing MLS wont help make soccer better in the States. Only if people just let the game Grow on its on, You have alot of young people playing the game in certain areas of the country. Its has really hit mainstream yet over all. so far it has benefitted from foreign expats and most especially the spanish speaking fan base.. But even with the Spanish speaking Fan Base you are not accomplishing alot in the American mainstream sports arena. MLS is doing well expanding slow and making sure that investment is solid, As for entertainment and excitement, sure it aint the best but its catching up and still need to learn how to pleas the American audience. MLS shouldnt have to worry the rest of the world, just worry bout themselves, they dont need to impress any body.
     
  21. TinManJoshua

    TinManJoshua Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Portsmouth FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. The NFL and the NBA are most certainly not single table. Are they not major leagues?
    2. What a stupid idea. "Hey, we got this concept that is completely foreign to American sports, let's drop it on this already xenophobic public!"
    3. AEG had plenty. HSG may not, and I don't think that a lot of owners(who are already running a business in the red, mind you) to lose that much more money annually.
    4.
    5. I was just pointing out that your splitting the wrong hair with AEG(vendetta much?) They ARE trying to get down to owning one team.

    Honestly, I don't give a damn how the rest of the world sees this league. If Americans don't watch it, there won't be a league to be credible. We have two magnificent league structure examples IN THIS COUNTRY that the common sports fan understands. Guess what? They BOTH have a cap and they BOTH have two conferences.
     
  22. Westbrook Diarist

    Nov 30, 2008
    Westbrook, Maine
    First, thanks to everyone for the feedback. Even when it wasn't informative (though it was mostly informative), it was highly entertaining (it must be the masochist in me that finds it entertaining to be referred to as a "pretentious ********ing prick.")

    Anyway, if American soccer fandom can be categorized as Europhiles on the one hand, and (for lack of a better phrase) Yankee-philes on the other, consider me one of the latter. To be a successful American soccer league, I think the MLS must continue to build on the sporting traditions of other successful American sports leagues. So that means they should maintain the division and playoff system. And though it's a highly appealing concept, relegation and promotion just doesn't have any precedent in American sports. Moreover, relegation and promotion would make it more difficult to accomplish the stated goal of diversifying ownership.

    Ultimately, I think MLS will be helped if its supporters describe the game to unrealized supporters using the American tongue, as opposed to using foreign terms dripping with stilted accents (the exception, of course, is MLS's sizable Spanish-speaking demographic who should continue to use their own culture and language to brag about the league).

    Ultimately, I'm not a soccer isolationist. I just think the exciting world of soccer should be shared with other Americans using, you know, America's soccer culture and language as a reference point.

    P.S. I'm going to edge out on a branch (not) and completely agree with the requirements for non-turf SSS. I've spent too much of my soccer spectator life buried in cavernous Gillette Stadium.
     
  23. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually I also Beleive that there is a true American soccer culture..... the NASL has paved a way for alot, i remeber seeing some old EPL clips from the early 1990s when that EPL Mondaynight football program show( i swear they got it from the NFL)... it had cheerleaders and some other known american type things on it.... it had mixed reviews over there but the Monday show case became a mainstay. Not as glamorous as it was started, like the NFL MNF it helped EPL......

    Im still bothered that people want to europeanize MLS when its a American league.
     
  24. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldnt say they want to Europeanize the american league...they just want more soccer culture...Single table...pro/rel are part of soccer and not just part of European soccer. I for one am in favor of a single table (once we get at least 18 teams in the league) because New York Red Bull Western Conf. Champs doesnt sound quite right. I would still have playoffs but seed the teams 1-6 (more competitive season that way).

    On a side note to go along with the original posters topic I would want to impliment an American DP rule.
     
  25. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Only Dumb EUROSNOBS want singletable, that wont work in American sports... Plus the format MLS has is Just fine and its improving every yr. The league will expand more once there are true demand for MLS in certain cities... like I said before American soccer needs to develop on its own not some euro copycat..... there is no real reason to go to single table... look at euro league they dont have post season playoffs heck there season is all based on either the previous season or the next.. you dont reall have a champion for that season(Uefa Champs Lg.) and all those qualifying efforts are from the previous season(euro leagues) ... Sorry it wont work here. also the lil apertura/clasura crap wont work either, cause who in heck is gonna recognize two chamions in the same yr.??? answer that... there isnt.
     

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